Abortion-Keep Legal, Yes or No?
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Bentleyspop said:GlowGirl said:I am highly pro-choice. However, one issue I haven't heard discussed with this Texas restriction is what happens if an amnio test shows something developmentally wrong with the fetus. The test is usually done well after 6 weeks, and many women choose not to continue the pregnancy if there are any issues. What is supposed to happen in that case?
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drakeheuer14 said:HughFreakingDillon said:drakeheuer14 said:Gern Blansten said:drakeheuer14 said:Gern Blansten said:drakeheuer14 said:mickeyrat said:lets do this, forced vasectomies for all pubescent boys, reversable of course. When buddy boy feels ready to be daddy. reverse it.....
You call people "pro abortion" and nothing could be further from the truth. I wish they were not necessary but that isn't realistic.
I'm always amazed that people in the GOP (the "small government" party) are always willing to have the government get between a female and her doctor.I can’t go back in time and change the narrative. Pro-abortion is just where we are in the terminology these days. I don’t like pro-choice, because it oversimplifies it and turns it into a positive. It just is what it is now.It’s preservation of life that I am after. The fetus may rely on the mother, but again, fully grown people rely on meds, devices and others to survive as well.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Bentleyspop said:GlowGirl said:I am highly pro-choice. However, one issue I haven't heard discussed with this Texas restriction is what happens if an amnio test shows something developmentally wrong with the fetus. The test is usually done well after 6 weeks, and many women choose not to continue the pregnancy if there are any issues. What is supposed to happen in that case?
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GlowGirl said:Bentleyspop said:GlowGirl said:I am highly pro-choice. However, one issue I haven't heard discussed with this Texas restriction is what happens if an amnio test shows something developmentally wrong with the fetus. The test is usually done well after 6 weeks, and many women choose not to continue the pregnancy if there are any issues. What is supposed to happen in that case?
"Pro-life"= forced birth
But the "pro-lifers" don't care
They want to force the birth no matter how painful the "quality" of life will be.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:drakeheuer14 said:HughFreakingDillon said:drakeheuer14 said:Gern Blansten said:drakeheuer14 said:Gern Blansten said:drakeheuer14 said:mickeyrat said:lets do this, forced vasectomies for all pubescent boys, reversable of course. When buddy boy feels ready to be daddy. reverse it.....
You call people "pro abortion" and nothing could be further from the truth. I wish they were not necessary but that isn't realistic.
I'm always amazed that people in the GOP (the "small government" party) are always willing to have the government get between a female and her doctor.I can’t go back in time and change the narrative. Pro-abortion is just where we are in the terminology these days. I don’t like pro-choice, because it oversimplifies it and turns it into a positive. It just is what it is now.It’s preservation of life that I am after. The fetus may rely on the mother, but again, fully grown people rely on meds, devices and others to survive as well.The fact that people had a fit over the word plenty says enough that I guess I will have to be extra careful with my phrasing.I think I will see myself out again.Pittsburgh 2013
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drakeheuer14 said:HughFreakingDillon said:drakeheuer14 said:HughFreakingDillon said:drakeheuer14 said:Gern Blansten said:drakeheuer14 said:Gern Blansten said:drakeheuer14 said:mickeyrat said:lets do this, forced vasectomies for all pubescent boys, reversable of course. When buddy boy feels ready to be daddy. reverse it.....
You call people "pro abortion" and nothing could be further from the truth. I wish they were not necessary but that isn't realistic.
I'm always amazed that people in the GOP (the "small government" party) are always willing to have the government get between a female and her doctor.I can’t go back in time and change the narrative. Pro-abortion is just where we are in the terminology these days. I don’t like pro-choice, because it oversimplifies it and turns it into a positive. It just is what it is now.It’s preservation of life that I am after. The fetus may rely on the mother, but again, fully grown people rely on meds, devices and others to survive as well.The fact that people had a fit over the word plenty says enough that I guess I will have to be extra careful with my phrasing.I think I will see myself out again.This law, and others like it, cause clear and measurable harms to women.Abortion should be available as a safe, accessible, affordable option for all women. Anything less increases injury, illness and death.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
drakeheuer14 said:HughFreakingDillon said:drakeheuer14 said:HughFreakingDillon said:drakeheuer14 said:Gern Blansten said:drakeheuer14 said:Gern Blansten said:drakeheuer14 said:mickeyrat said:lets do this, forced vasectomies for all pubescent boys, reversable of course. When buddy boy feels ready to be daddy. reverse it.....
You call people "pro abortion" and nothing could be further from the truth. I wish they were not necessary but that isn't realistic.
I'm always amazed that people in the GOP (the "small government" party) are always willing to have the government get between a female and her doctor.I can’t go back in time and change the narrative. Pro-abortion is just where we are in the terminology these days. I don’t like pro-choice, because it oversimplifies it and turns it into a positive. It just is what it is now.It’s preservation of life that I am after. The fetus may rely on the mother, but again, fully grown people rely on meds, devices and others to survive as well.The fact that people had a fit over the word plenty says enough that I guess I will have to be extra careful with my phrasing.I think I will see myself out again.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
oftenreading said:drakeheuer14 said:HughFreakingDillon said:drakeheuer14 said:HughFreakingDillon said:drakeheuer14 said:Gern Blansten said:drakeheuer14 said:Gern Blansten said:drakeheuer14 said:mickeyrat said:lets do this, forced vasectomies for all pubescent boys, reversable of course. When buddy boy feels ready to be daddy. reverse it.....
You call people "pro abortion" and nothing could be further from the truth. I wish they were not necessary but that isn't realistic.
I'm always amazed that people in the GOP (the "small government" party) are always willing to have the government get between a female and her doctor.I can’t go back in time and change the narrative. Pro-abortion is just where we are in the terminology these days. I don’t like pro-choice, because it oversimplifies it and turns it into a positive. It just is what it is now.It’s preservation of life that I am after. The fetus may rely on the mother, but again, fully grown people rely on meds, devices and others to survive as well.The fact that people had a fit over the word plenty says enough that I guess I will have to be extra careful with my phrasing.I think I will see myself out again.This law, and others like it, cause clear and measurable harms to women.Abortion should be available as a safe, accessible, affordable option for all women. Anything less increases injury, illness and death.0 -
This law is worse than you can imagine, because it's not actually a criminal law. It's a civil law, enforced by citizens who are actually deputized by the state. Roe V Wade protects the right of abortion from gov't interference. This state is not providing the interference. If a citizen suspects that a woman (and/or a clinic, I'm not quite sure) had an abortion past the heartbeat stage, the citizen can file a civil suit.
If the citizen prevails, they are entitled to a $10,000 civil judgment, plus attorney and court costs. What's worse, if the citizen does not prevail, the woman (defendant) is NOT entitled to attorney fees. So essentially a woman will have to spend money defending herself in either case. And because someone can bring a frivolous case, you will see 'revenge suits' that likely have no merit. I mean this is a total travesty of justice.
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mrussel1 said:This law is worse than you can imagine, because it's not actually a criminal law. It's a civil law, enforced by citizens who are actually deputized by the state. Roe V Wade protects the right of abortion from gov't interference. This state is not providing the interference. If a citizen suspects that a woman (and/or a clinic, I'm not quite sure) had an abortion past the heartbeat stage, the citizen can file a civil suit.
If the citizen prevails, they are entitled to a $10,000 civil judgment, plus attorney and court costs. What's worse, if the citizen does not prevail, the woman (defendant) is NOT entitled to attorney fees. So essentially a woman will have to spend money defending herself in either case. And because someone can bring a frivolous case, you will see 'revenge suits' that likely have no merit. I mean this is a total travesty of justice.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
oftenreading said:mrussel1 said:This law is worse than you can imagine, because it's not actually a criminal law. It's a civil law, enforced by citizens who are actually deputized by the state. Roe V Wade protects the right of abortion from gov't interference. This state is not providing the interference. If a citizen suspects that a woman (and/or a clinic, I'm not quite sure) had an abortion past the heartbeat stage, the citizen can file a civil suit.
If the citizen prevails, they are entitled to a $10,000 civil judgment, plus attorney and court costs. What's worse, if the citizen does not prevail, the woman (defendant) is NOT entitled to attorney fees. So essentially a woman will have to spend money defending herself in either case. And because someone can bring a frivolous case, you will see 'revenge suits' that likely have no merit. I mean this is a total travesty of justice.0 -
drakeheuer14 said:HughFreakingDillon said:drakeheuer14 said:Gern Blansten said:drakeheuer14 said:Gern Blansten said:drakeheuer14 said:mickeyrat said:lets do this, forced vasectomies for all pubescent boys, reversable of course. When buddy boy feels ready to be daddy. reverse it.....
You call people "pro abortion" and nothing could be further from the truth. I wish they were not necessary but that isn't realistic.
I'm always amazed that people in the GOP (the "small government" party) are always willing to have the government get between a female and her doctor.I can’t go back in time and change the narrative. Pro-abortion is just where we are in the terminology these days. I don’t like pro-choice, because it oversimplifies it and turns it into a positive. It just is what it is now.It’s preservation of life that I am after. The fetus may rely on the mother, but again, fully grown people rely on meds, devices and others to survive as well.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/students-shout-their-abortions-to-disrupt-a-pro-life-display/
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mrussel1 said:oftenreading said:mrussel1 said:This law is worse than you can imagine, because it's not actually a criminal law. It's a civil law, enforced by citizens who are actually deputized by the state. Roe V Wade protects the right of abortion from gov't interference. This state is not providing the interference. If a citizen suspects that a woman (and/or a clinic, I'm not quite sure) had an abortion past the heartbeat stage, the citizen can file a civil suit.
If the citizen prevails, they are entitled to a $10,000 civil judgment, plus attorney and court costs. What's worse, if the citizen does not prevail, the woman (defendant) is NOT entitled to attorney fees. So essentially a woman will have to spend money defending herself in either case. And because someone can bring a frivolous case, you will see 'revenge suits' that likely have no merit. I mean this is a total travesty of justice.
interesting take.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
You know what’s really in poor taste?Interfering with someone’s reproductive choices.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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mrussel1 said:This law is worse than you can imagine, because it's not actually a criminal law. It's a civil law, enforced by citizens who are actually deputized by the state. Roe V Wade protects the right of abortion from gov't interference. This state is not providing the interference. If a citizen suspects that a woman (and/or a clinic, I'm not quite sure) had an abortion past the heartbeat stage, the citizen can file a civil suit.
If the citizen prevails, they are entitled to a $10,000 civil judgment, plus attorney and court costs. What's worse, if the citizen does not prevail, the woman (defendant) is NOT entitled to attorney fees. So essentially a woman will have to spend money defending herself in either case. And because someone can bring a frivolous case, you will see 'revenge suits' that likely have no merit. I mean this is a total travesty of justice.
Time to boycott ATT, American Airlines, Southwest, Tito’s Vodka and any other corporation or product headquartered, produced/manufactured or who donated to those repubs that wrote, passed and signed that bill into law.
Please, Mexico, take Tejas back. We’ll pay you to take it, please?
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Halifax2TheMax said:mrussel1 said:This law is worse than you can imagine, because it's not actually a criminal law. It's a civil law, enforced by citizens who are actually deputized by the state. Roe V Wade protects the right of abortion from gov't interference. This state is not providing the interference. If a citizen suspects that a woman (and/or a clinic, I'm not quite sure) had an abortion past the heartbeat stage, the citizen can file a civil suit.
If the citizen prevails, they are entitled to a $10,000 civil judgment, plus attorney and court costs. What's worse, if the citizen does not prevail, the woman (defendant) is NOT entitled to attorney fees. So essentially a woman will have to spend money defending herself in either case. And because someone can bring a frivolous case, you will see 'revenge suits' that likely have no merit. I mean this is a total travesty of justice.
Time to boycott ATT, American Airlines, Southwest, Tito’s Vodka and any other corporation or product headquartered, produced/manufactured or who donated to those repubs that wrote, passed and signed that bill into law.
Please, Mexico, take Tejas back. We’ll pay you to take it, please?
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Abortion will be a bigger issue in the midterms than Afghanistan. In a way, Texas did the dems a favor.www.myspace.com0
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JB16057 said:The Juggler said:HEY! While we are on the subject of joking about abortions, here is your friendly reminder that Donald Trump, your lord and savior, once joked about aborting HIS OWN DAUGHTER! But sure...get all high and mighty some dumb girl on tiktok
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/01/video-trump-jokes-about-having-wanted-abortion.htmlDo March for Life Protesters Remember the Time Trump Joked About Having Wanted to Abort One of His Children?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMzFVcLBAD4
JAN 27, 201712:22 PMTrump administration figures Mike Pence and Kellyanne Conway are scheduled to speak at this year’s edition of the annual March for Life pro-life rally in Washington on Friday. Trump, meanwhile, has said that his Supreme Court nominees will be chosen with the goal of overturning Roe v. Wade. (Though here’s why that might not happen even if Trump gets to appoint multiple justices.)
This pro-life president, though, was famously pro-choice before deciding that he wanted to be the Republican nominee. In 2016, he refused to answer Times columnist Maureen Dowd’s question about whether he’d ever paid for or been otherwise involved in the procurement of an abortion. And above is an MSNBC clip of a 2003 Trump appearance on Howard Stern’s radio show in which he laughs about being talked into not aborting a surprise pregnancy. (It’d seem, given the timing of Trump’s children’s births, that he’s talking about Marla Maples, who’s said the conception of their daughter, Tiffany, was a surprise, and MSNBC asserts as much. But no one says Maples’ name in the clip.)
Also of note: The context of the discussion above is that Trump is talking about how pleased he is that his then-girlfriend Melania has been consistently taking birth control pills. The organization that runs the March for Life successfully sued the Obama administration to be exempted from the Affordable Care Act’s contraceptive coverage requirements.
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mrussel1 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mrussel1 said:This law is worse than you can imagine, because it's not actually a criminal law. It's a civil law, enforced by citizens who are actually deputized by the state. Roe V Wade protects the right of abortion from gov't interference. This state is not providing the interference. If a citizen suspects that a woman (and/or a clinic, I'm not quite sure) had an abortion past the heartbeat stage, the citizen can file a civil suit.
If the citizen prevails, they are entitled to a $10,000 civil judgment, plus attorney and court costs. What's worse, if the citizen does not prevail, the woman (defendant) is NOT entitled to attorney fees. So essentially a woman will have to spend money defending herself in either case. And because someone can bring a frivolous case, you will see 'revenge suits' that likely have no merit. I mean this is a total travesty of justice.
Time to boycott ATT, American Airlines, Southwest, Tito’s Vodka and any other corporation or product headquartered, produced/manufactured or who donated to those repubs that wrote, passed and signed that bill into law.
Please, Mexico, take Tejas back. We’ll pay you to take it, please?
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