Abortion-Keep Legal, Yes or No?

mickeyrat

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mickeyrat

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Halifax2TheMax

mickeyrat said:

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mickeyrat

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Merkin Baller

jimjam1982 said:

I'm pro choice but let the states decide. No federal over reach. People can adjust accordingly. This really shouldn't even be a discussion. The less federal government the better. They are in fact the enemy. 

When states ban abortion, a lot of of middle and lower class people can't 'adjust accordingly', but fuck those people, right? 

mickeyrat

Merkin Baller said:

jimjam1982 said:

I'm pro choice but let the states decide. No federal over reach. People can adjust accordingly. This really shouldn't even be a discussion. The less federal government the better. They are in fact the enemy. 

When states ban abortion, a lot of of middle and lower class people can't 'adjust accordingly', but fuck those people, right? 

Rather than "let the states decide" ,just put it before the voters in each state how about that
Or even better yet let's have a federal law making it legal every fucking where and if you don't want an abortion don't have one

Spiritual_Chaos

Just do like Sweden does it and be normal

mickeyrat

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Spiritual_Chaos

Just listened to a clip of Sam Seder having to say he defends aborting a child right up till birth, as in 9 months old... 

Doesn't the American left (democrats?) shoot themselves a bit in the foot on this subject by being for aborting a child no matter how late? It sounded kind of bizarre to my ears. 

What is the reasoning for this by the american "left", instead of e.g. striving for and fighting for the Swedish (or other european) model? Which must be easier to "sell" and get people to agree on. 

mickeyrat

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Just listened to a clip of Sam Seder having to say he defends aborting a child right up till birth, as in 9 months old... 

Doesn't the American left (democrats?) shoot themselves a bit in the foot on this subject by being for aborting a child no matter how late? It sounded kind of bizarre to my ears. 

What is the reasoning for this by the american "left", instead of e.g. striving for and fighting for the Swedish (or other european) model? Which must be easier to "sell" and get people to agree on. 

any woman who has carried to that time  or near it intends to have that child  in the rare instances where a third trimester abortion is performed,  its due to fetal anomoly.

2 examples. A couple, friends, discovered during high risk pregnancy the baby was dead in the womb. chose d and c. held funeral and acknowledge her every year. Named her Shelby.

My cousin discovered late a trisomy conditon,(third chromosome attached to a given pair) this was related to heart. her baby had a hole in her heart and was considered unviable, chose to carry to term and her daughter lived maybe an hour.

each family made the choice that was right for them.

I want someone to show me a first hand account of a woman choosing abortion that late in third trimester, just because she could abort.

Spiritual_Chaos

mickeyrat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Just listened to a clip of Sam Seder having to say he defends aborting a child right up till birth, as in 9 months old... 

Doesn't the American left (democrats?) shoot themselves a bit in the foot on this subject by being for aborting a child no matter how late? It sounded kind of bizarre to my ears. 

What is the reasoning for this by the american "left", instead of e.g. striving for and fighting for the Swedish (or other european) model? Which must be easier to "sell" and get people to agree on. 

any woman who has carried to that time  or near it intends to have that child  in the rare instances where a third trimester abortion is performed,  its due to fetal anomoly.

2 examples. A couple, friends, discovered during high risk pregnancy the baby was dead in the womb. chose d and c. held funeral and acknowledge her every year. Named her Shelby.

My cousin discovered late a trisomy conditon,(third chromosome attached to a given pair) this was related to heart. her baby had a hole in her heart and was considered unviable, chose to carry to term and her daughter lived maybe an hour.

each family made the choice that was right for them.

I want someone to show me a first hand account of a woman choosing abortion that late in third trimester, just because she could abort.

Do you think swedish women are having to keep a dead fetus in the womb and hope for a miracle? Even with our different laws?

The defense seem to be like you are saying  ”…but no one is actually doing that, just chillll”. But still having to say pushed into a corner that you support a woman aborting 60 seconds before birth if it comes down to that seems to be a wonky strategy for getting as many people on board as possible.

Compared to lets say arguing for a swedish model. luckiy over here this is not an election issue - it is a non-issue.  I am baffled though by what Sam Seder said and is having to defend as being the preffered US model. 

mickeyrat

this is being proactive..

https://www.threads.net/@bellison222/post/DCxgXJaRJGG?xmt=AQGzkj5_pXqZinyNmK-EbyG6sEjL7A3R8G3LAK7P5WodEw

mrussel1

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Just listened to a clip of Sam Seder having to say he defends aborting a child right up till birth, as in 9 months old... 

Doesn't the American left (democrats?) shoot themselves a bit in the foot on this subject by being for aborting a child no matter how late? It sounded kind of bizarre to my ears. 

What is the reasoning for this by the american "left", instead of e.g. striving for and fighting for the Swedish (or other european) model? Which must be easier to "sell" and get people to agree on. 

What is the Swedish model?

Original_Shifty

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Just listened to a clip of Sam Seder having to say he defends aborting a child right up till birth, as in 9 months old... 

Doesn't the American left (democrats?) shoot themselves a bit in the foot on this subject by being for aborting a child no matter how late? It sounded kind of bizarre to my ears. 

What is the reasoning for this by the american "left", instead of e.g. striving for and fighting for the Swedish (or other european) model? Which must be easier to "sell" and get people to agree on. 

What is the Swedish model?

https://www.rfsu.se/contentassets/48adfec3a7254bd590c07c79766000a8/en_om_abort.pdf

mickeyrat

sorry, this part of judaism is irrelevant

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mickeyrat

first of many I'm sure....

https://bsky.app/profile/mrjoncryer.bsky.social/post/3ld7ve6hgcc2y

mrussel1

Original_Shifty said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Just listened to a clip of Sam Seder having to say he defends aborting a child right up till birth, as in 9 months old... 

Doesn't the American left (democrats?) shoot themselves a bit in the foot on this subject by being for aborting a child no matter how late? It sounded kind of bizarre to my ears. 

What is the reasoning for this by the american "left", instead of e.g. striving for and fighting for the Swedish (or other european) model? Which must be easier to "sell" and get people to agree on. 

What is the Swedish model?

https://www.rfsu.se/contentassets/48adfec3a7254bd590c07c79766000a8/en_om_abort.pdf

Federal bureaucrats and a board evaluating after 18 weeks? No thanks. 

mickeyrat

https://www.threads.net/@propublica/post/DDxMF3Lq0u8?xmt=AQGz81AKGqnSDY7x06C5QtrXIOymtoj3zeNRbtJmgUlmuQ

mickeyrat

huh.....never thought of it this way.

https://www.threads.net/@womenshealthaccess/post/DD-5XCZvOW8?xmt=AQGzJT09eDSTPxczDvzJn17wncwvQsjtcYkACDs-1UD8JA

mickeyrat

would be laughable if preventable deaths weren't at stake of woman who can talk, walk, breathe on their own without extraordinary medical intervention unlike as yet unviable fetuses

https://www.propublica.org/article/abortion-bans-deaths-state-maternal-mortality-committees?utm_campaign=propublica-sprout&utm_content=1735793793&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR347I8bfRul7B8Zvrbg_b__z7q2x_GaRLpRA4xbgeHmKwS540LfVoerFGw_aem_uKcFry0y18A9ucA1A9z-QQ

mickeyrat

shameful

https://www.propublica.org/article/abortion-ban-deaths-cdc-maternal-health-care?utm_campaign=propublica-sprout&utm_content=1735968082&utm_medium=social&utm_source=threads

Bentleyspop

Abortion should alway be....

Accessible 
Affordable 
Available on demand
Private
Safe
A womans decision and not that of a bunch of old white men.

mickeyrat

no chance of fraud wastre and abuse here

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mickeyrat

unsure when this was recorded....

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mickeyrat

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mickeyrat

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Hobbes

RIP Cecile Richards. A true hero.

mickeyrat

mickeyrat

being the correct thread for the "discussion"

I prefer the term pro-body autonomy

battle1

mickeyrat said:

being the correct thread for the "discussion"

I prefer the term pro-body autonomy

I like it, mickey