Abortion-Keep Legal, Yes or No?

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,096
    its a little wordy but the alternative is I am Pro-noneofmyfuckingbusinessunlessIamdirectlyinvolvedeventhenasamanmyinputislimited
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  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,304
    mickeyrat said:
    its a little wordy but the alternative is I am Pro-noneofmyfuckingbusinessunlessIamdirectlyinvolvedeventhenasamanmyinputislimited
    Your alternative should be practiced by more men, as it is spot on.

  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,096
    FiveBelow said:
    mickeyrat said:
    its a little wordy but the alternative is I am Pro-noneofmyfuckingbusinessunlessIamdirectlyinvolvedeventhenasamanmyinputislimited
    Your alternative should be practiced by more men, as it is spot on.


    in another lifetime, I was recently discharged from usn due to alcoholism. back home living on a married buddys couch , "seeing" this woman. was dismissive of her and hating myself and what passed for my life. One night she made something very clear that stuck with me and shaped my stance in this. fuck, 35 years ago.

    She said, if she happened to get pregnant while seeing me, she wouldnt tell me. she would just abort.

    sitting on that for a time, I understood. The person she knew was in no way a potential father. I was barely a human being ffs.

    I came to the conclusion that even if I was a party to a pregnancy the most I could hope for was input and that the final decision was not mine to make or really be a part of.

    being well on the other side of that and how and who I was then, I am grateful I never had kids along the way. wouldnt have been fair to the mother and the child(ren) .

    Still in the face of everything that came after , I understood my place in such a situation. that understanding is as firm as ever.
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 1,059
    Thanks for sharing.

    Hope you're doing well! ✌️
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,096
    DE4173 said:
    Thanks for sharing.

    Hope you're doing well! ✌️

    19 yrs sober come April. In a profession I wanted since I'm a kid (trucking). A wife who likes it that I'm home every day and laughs at my goofy ass jokes and a dog that cant wait to see me.

    yeah, living the dream.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 1,059
    Sounds amazing! Congrats!
    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,096
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,410
    mickeyrat said:
    FiveBelow said:
    mickeyrat said:
    its a little wordy but the alternative is I am Pro-noneofmyfuckingbusinessunlessIamdirectlyinvolvedeventhenasamanmyinputislimited
    Your alternative should be practiced by more men, as it is spot on.


    in another lifetime, I was recently discharged from usn due to alcoholism. back home living on a married buddys couch , "seeing" this woman. was dismissive of her and hating myself and what passed for my life. One night she made something very clear that stuck with me and shaped my stance in this. fuck, 35 years ago.

    She said, if she happened to get pregnant while seeing me, she wouldnt tell me. she would just abort.

    sitting on that for a time, I understood. The person she knew was in no way a potential father. I was barely a human being ffs.

    I came to the conclusion that even if I was a party to a pregnancy the most I could hope for was input and that the final decision was not mine to make or really be a part of.

    being well on the other side of that and how and who I was then, I am grateful I never had kids along the way. wouldnt have been fair to the mother and the child(ren) .

    Still in the face of everything that came after , I understood my place in such a situation. that understanding is as firm as ever.
    This world needs more men like you in it! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,096
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,096
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,096
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,786
    Yea, they’re not weird. Not at all. But all women should be like this. Don’t wanna be replaced, dontcha know?

    The Collins family, from left: Titan Invictus, Simone, Industry Americus, Malcolm, Torsten Savage and Octavian George play around in their backyard after gathering for a portrait in Audubon, Pennsylvania, on Dec. 28. (Rachel Wisniewski for The Washington Post) 

    AUDUBON, Pa.

    It’s a new year, which, for Simone Collins, means a new pregnancy.

    This will be her sixth pregnancy since 2019, and, if all goes well, Collins will bear her fifth child by December. She approaches each the way an endurance athlete does a marathon. She and her husband, Malcolm, have waited exactly nine months since the birth of their last child, Industry Americus (“Indy” for short), to give Simone’s body adequate time to recover.

    She goes through a barrage of exams, starting with a hysteroscopy and a uterine biopsy to “get the lay of the land,” and “very detailed” bloodwork. She will take the hormone medication necessary for transferring a frozen embryo into her uterus. At home, she exercises, walking for hours on a compact treadmill she keeps at her desk, and “eats really well”: plain yogurt, no added sugar; hard-boiled eggs; a “slurry” of blended vegetables.

    When it’s time to give birth, Simone will have a Caesarean section — because of complications that arose when she delivered her first child, Octavian George, all of the births have been C-sections. With each surgery, the risk of future complications — including death — increases. But Simone, 37, wants to do this at least three more times — ideally as many as 10. They have 32 embryos left.

    I’m happy to die in labor,” Simone said in early January, fresh out of the fertility clinic. That’s because, for Malcolm and Simone Collins, a large family isn’t just a personal preference; as pronatalists, they believe that bearing as many children as possible is what’s necessary to avoid an apocalyptic future.

    “It’s objectively dangerous what she’s doing,” said Malcolm, 38, steering their car toward home. “When she says she’s a pronatalist, she’s putting her life on the line in service of her belief system.”

    Continues


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/of-interest/2025/02/01/malcolm-and-simone-collins-pronatalism/

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