Abortion-Keep Legal, Yes or No?

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    Regarding California law sharing license plate data:

    California’s Senate Bill 34, passed in 2015, restricts police and sheriff’s departments from giving automated license plate reader (ALPR) data with out-of-state authorities.

    The bill, authored by former Sen. Jerry Hill of San Mateo, says that it “would, in addition to any other sanctions, penalties, or remedies provided by law, authorize an individual who has been harmed by a violation of these provisions to bring a civil action in any court of competent jurisdiction against a person who knowingly caused the harm.”

    So there is quite rightly legal action that could be taken by any woman traveling to California to seek an abortion who has her privacy rights violated by police or sheriff’s departments here.

    And Sheriff Cooper of Sacramento should know that. When he was an assemblyman representing Oak Grove, he voted for that bill.

    https://www.ocregister.com/2023/07/21/stop-sharing-out-of-state-plates-data/

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,558
    mrussel1 said:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/ohio-issue-one-reject-loss-abortion-rights-ballot-measure-rcna98842

    Wow!  Nice job Ohio!  The GOP tried some more bullshit and it failed.  You can just about guarantee a constitutional right to abortion in Ohio come November. 
    Another great sign for next year too. 
    Big time...I saw that voting at Ohio State was like 98% no....genZ coming through

    I wonder how many there actually were.  4 shows at The 'Shoe in 8 days. Official move in is next week. must have voted absentee.

    do think ohio gop will put forth voting bills denying students the vote if not already an ohio resident.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,762
    Abortion should always be...

    Accessible to all women who want or need it
    Affordable 
    Available to any and all women who want or need it
    Legal 
    Safe

    Not controlled by old white men who identify as straight and "christian".
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,720
    What the GOP doesn’t understand is that this is not about abortion.  This is about discriminating against women and their right to choose.  Taking away the right for a woman to control her body and mind, because this isn’t just physical to women, it’s mental as well, is just not going to happen moving forward. 
    Roe was a wake-up call.  Our  government is not standing up to protect women, they’re just trying to take control.  

    Anyone ever watch “what would you do?”.  It’s usually the women who speak up first.  And now, don’t  mess with women’s rights after our predecessors fought so hard for the little we’ve received.  We are far from equal still.  
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,351
    Regarding California law sharing license plate data:

    California’s Senate Bill 34, passed in 2015, restricts police and sheriff’s departments from giving automated license plate reader (ALPR) data with out-of-state authorities.

    The bill, authored by former Sen. Jerry Hill of San Mateo, says that it “would, in addition to any other sanctions, penalties, or remedies provided by law, authorize an individual who has been harmed by a violation of these provisions to bring a civil action in any court of competent jurisdiction against a person who knowingly caused the harm.”

    So there is quite rightly legal action that could be taken by any woman traveling to California to seek an abortion who has her privacy rights violated by police or sheriff’s departments here.

    And Sheriff Cooper of Sacramento should know that. When he was an assemblyman representing Oak Grove, he voted for that bill.

    https://www.ocregister.com/2023/07/21/stop-sharing-out-of-state-plates-data/

    For a political party that isn't into big government they sure as hell want to be big brother!
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Regarding California law sharing license plate data:

    California’s Senate Bill 34, passed in 2015, restricts police and sheriff’s departments from giving automated license plate reader (ALPR) data with out-of-state authorities.

    The bill, authored by former Sen. Jerry Hill of San Mateo, says that it “would, in addition to any other sanctions, penalties, or remedies provided by law, authorize an individual who has been harmed by a violation of these provisions to bring a civil action in any court of competent jurisdiction against a person who knowingly caused the harm.”

    So there is quite rightly legal action that could be taken by any woman traveling to California to seek an abortion who has her privacy rights violated by police or sheriff’s departments here.

    And Sheriff Cooper of Sacramento should know that. When he was an assemblyman representing Oak Grove, he voted for that bill.

    https://www.ocregister.com/2023/07/21/stop-sharing-out-of-state-plates-data/

    For a political party that isn't into big government they sure as hell want to be big brother!
    Exactly. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    edited August 2023
    Regarding California law sharing license plate data:

    California’s Senate Bill 34, passed in 2015, restricts police and sheriff’s departments from giving automated license plate reader (ALPR) data with out-of-state authorities.

    The bill, authored by former Sen. Jerry Hill of San Mateo, says that it “would, in addition to any other sanctions, penalties, or remedies provided by law, authorize an individual who has been harmed by a violation of these provisions to bring a civil action in any court of competent jurisdiction against a person who knowingly caused the harm.”

    So there is quite rightly legal action that could be taken by any woman traveling to California to seek an abortion who has her privacy rights violated by police or sheriff’s departments here.

    And Sheriff Cooper of Sacramento should know that. When he was an assemblyman representing Oak Grove, he voted for that bill.

    https://www.ocregister.com/2023/07/21/stop-sharing-out-of-state-plates-data/

    For a political party that isn't into big government they sure as hell want to be big brother!
    Because if you’re not, you’re “soft on crime.” Thank Shrub and the war on terr-error.

    Further, privacy and the right to same no longer exist.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,558
    edited August 2023
    think you can reasonably expect passage on nov.


      

    Abortion Amendment Will Be On Ballot This Fall, Ohio Supreme Court Rules

    By Devon Hesano

    August 11, 2023

    WASHINGTON, D.C. — On Friday, Aug. 11, the Ohio Supreme Court rejected a Republican lawsuit that sought to prevent an abortion rights amendment from being placed on the ballot in the upcoming November election. The decision was unanimous and makes certain that Ohio voters will have the chance to enshrine reproductive freedom within the state constitution. 

    The conservative plaintiffs behind the case argued that the initiative could not be placed on the ballot because the amendment language did not describe what laws would be repealed if the amendment were to be successful. However, the Republican-controlled state Supreme Court ruled that Ohio law “does not require a petition proposing a constitutional amendment to include the text of an existing statute.”

    The victorious ruling follows the resounding defeat of Issue 1 earlier this week, a Republican-backed proposal that would have required constitutional amendments to garner 60% of support from voters — instead of 50% — in order to pass. The proposal was widely seen as an attempt to make passage of the abortion rights amendment more difficult. 

    Read the decision here.


















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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    mickeyrat said:
    Someone please explain to me Tejas’ and the repub position on the right to life, again?
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