I actually looked this up and one of the replies was awesome. "don't they take the baby in, and they raise it in the ways of the clinic....and that's how abortion doctors are made?".
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I actually looked this up and one of the replies was awesome. "don't they take the baby in, and they raise it in the ways of the clinic....and that's how abortion doctors are made?".
this is all kinds of incorrect. in most states abortions after the 2nd trimester were illegal. last i checked the 8th month was in the 3rd trimester. so if the baby falls out on the floor at the clinic, the mom can keep the baby or give it up for adoption.
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this is all kinds of incorrect. in most states abortions after the 2nd trimester were illegal. last i checked the 8th month was in the 3rd trimester. so if the baby falls out on the floor at the clinic, the mom can keep the baby or give it up for adoption.
That's the great thing about bad faith arguments, whether or not they're rooted in fact or reality is completely irrelevant.
Actually doesn’t sound like a terrible idea, haha. Wouldn’t it be more similar if men were told they couldn’t have vasectomies, though? No woman is forced to have the medical procedure that I’m aware of. Would all men having vasectomies not be just another way of men controlling pregnancy on their own terms?
Well, of course the meme isn't actually saying vasectomies should be mandated. It's just implying that people who want to dictate what women should do with their own bodies should... well, the that line says it all!
Another one I heard goes something like: Have you noticed that go can't get a tax deduction for fetuses because the government doesn't consider a fetus a person?
Of course, then the right will want to make fetuses be persons. Why not, right? Corporations are persons. In fact, I'm pretty sure my cat is a person. I hope she lives to be voting age.
I get it, I was just being argumentative as usual . I hadn’t heard that one on the fetuses, but it does create a bit of a conundrum on the topic.
Oh gosh, no problem. I didn't see it as an argument.
True,the subject of fetuses is tricky. Biologically, in its earliest stages, a fetus is basically a fish. It actually has gill slits like a fish (see here*). So if anti-abortionists are going to insist that life starts at conception, and are against "killing" that life by way of abortion, they sure as hell better not be eating fish, or at least if they do, confess their sins as murderers!
Insisting that it begins at conception, and extending personhood to that moment, would make morning after/Plan B and other contraceptives akin to abortion, and therefore murder under the personhood statute. That is significantly sooner than the current medical standard of the fetus in the womb, if I'm not mistaken.
Plan B actually prevents fertilization by temporarily stopping ovulation, so no, that wouldn't and couldn't be considered. Conception occurs when the egg is fertilized by the sperm.
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Actually doesn’t sound like a terrible idea, haha. Wouldn’t it be more similar if men were told they couldn’t have vasectomies, though? No woman is forced to have the medical procedure that I’m aware of. Would all men having vasectomies not be just another way of men controlling pregnancy on their own terms?
Well, of course the meme isn't actually saying vasectomies should be mandated. It's just implying that people who want to dictate what women should do with their own bodies should... well, the that line says it all!
Another one I heard goes something like: Have you noticed that go can't get a tax deduction for fetuses because the government doesn't consider a fetus a person?
Of course, then the right will want to make fetuses be persons. Why not, right? Corporations are persons. In fact, I'm pretty sure my cat is a person. I hope she lives to be voting age.
I get it, I was just being argumentative as usual . I hadn’t heard that one on the fetuses, but it does create a bit of a conundrum on the topic.
Oh gosh, no problem. I didn't see it as an argument.
True,the subject of fetuses is tricky. Biologically, in its earliest stages, a fetus is basically a fish. It actually has gill slits like a fish (see here*). So if anti-abortionists are going to insist that life starts at conception, and are against "killing" that life by way of abortion, they sure as hell better not be eating fish, or at least if they do, confess their sins as murderers!
Insisting that it begins at conception, and extending personhood to that moment, would make morning after/Plan B and other contraceptives akin to abortion, and therefore murder under the personhood statute. That is significantly sooner than the current medical standard of the fetus in the womb, if I'm not mistaken.
Plan B actually prevents fertilization by temporarily stopping ovulation, so no, that wouldn't and couldn't be considered. Conception occurs when the egg is fertilized by the sperm.
And, if I’m not mistaken, sperm can live up to five days so pjsoul is absolutely correct since conception can occur long after Plan B is utilized.
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I wonder how this plays on Reservations. Do these laws apply there as well since they are under Fed control with some autonomy....
Nope They can do as they please
That's true, so it would be interesting to see if Planned Parenthood would relocate to a reservation. But at the same time, they would not receive any federal funds if they are in a territory I bet.
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The most disgusting part of all this is it’s ok to stigmatize a child for the rest of their life by raping and sexually abusing them using religion to hide their pedophilia but an abortion…? Much better to fuck a child up forever.
Long, but informative and interesting read about Collins' decision to support Kavanaugh's confirmation based on private meetings she had and supposed assurances he made that Roe v. Wade was precedent upon precedent. Also digs in to her history as a senator and her reputation for skirting the middle.
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"don't they take the baby in, and they raise it in the ways of the clinic....and that's how abortion doctors are made?".
lol
Unfuckingbelievable!
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Hilarious! (But also sad and pathetic.)
Haha!
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/19/politics/oklahoma-abortion-ban-hb-4327-passed/index.html
I wonder how this plays on Reservations. Do these laws apply there as well since they are under Fed control with some autonomy....
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And here all this time I thought they were used to make Soylent Green for kids.
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Judge Overturns Georgia's Ban on Abortion After 6 Weeks
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