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  • PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Crickets...I figured people around here would be giddily exuberant over the news of New York passing this...
    The debate is tired and old. Much prefer privileged catholic school boys, Native American drummers and black, Israelite Jews. 
    I bet you do “prefer privileged catholic school boys”...
    Such a witty response. You should go into stand up. Or enter your junior high talent show. Well done.
     
    Take that passive aggression to the toxic masculinity thread, lol
    You first.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    PJPOWER said:
    Crickets...I figured people around here would be giddily exuberant over the news of New York passing this...
    I think the fact that it's even up for debate is idiotic. I'm not going to get giddy about something that is just common sense.
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  • PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Crickets...I figured people around here would be giddily exuberant over the news of New York passing this...
    The debate is tired and old. Much prefer privileged catholic school boys, Native American drummers and black, Israelite Jews. 
    I bet you do “prefer privileged catholic school boys”...
    What are you suggesting? Are you suggesting Halifax is a member of the clergy?
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,445
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Crickets...I figured people around here would be giddily exuberant over the news of New York passing this...
    The debate is tired and old. Much prefer privileged catholic school boys, Native American drummers and black, Israelite Jews. 
    I bet you do “prefer privileged catholic school boys”...
    What are you suggesting? Are you suggesting Halifax is a member of the clergy?
    He does seem obsessed with piss porn. 
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Crickets...I figured people around here would be giddily exuberant over the news of New York passing this...
    The debate is tired and old. Much prefer privileged catholic school boys, Native American drummers and black, Israelite Jews. 
    I bet you do “prefer privileged catholic school boys”...
    What are you suggesting? Are you suggesting Halifax is a member of the clergy?
    He does seem obsessed with piss porn. 
    This is true...hmmm
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Crickets...I figured people around here would be giddily exuberant over the news of New York passing this...
    The debate is tired and old. Much prefer privileged catholic school boys, Native American drummers and black, Israelite Jews. 
    I bet you do “prefer privileged catholic school boys”...
    What are you suggesting? Are you suggesting Halifax is a member of the clergy?
    That would make more sense, lol
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,445
    PJ_Soul said:
    So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
    ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJ_Soul said:
    So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
    ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.
    Well, when people feel that the way a high school kid “looks at” another person should make national news, the bar is set pretty low for them and there is probably little that is not crazy triggering.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    PJ_Soul said:
    So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
    ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.
    Well everyone is so willing to jump down anyone's throat for anything around here lately, but nobody said a word about that, so I assumed everyone was cool with it.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,445
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
    ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.
    Well everyone is so willing to jump down anyone's throat for anything around here lately, but nobody said a word about that, so I assumed everyone was cool with it.
    I’m squarely in the the:

    Seemed like a joke, it’s between them, I’m not likely to get involved in defending Halifax corner :)
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  • PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
    ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.
    Well, when people feel that the way a high school kid “looks at” another person should make national news, the bar is set pretty low for them and there is probably little that is not crazy triggering.
    Please point out to me where I expressed how I feel about the way the kid looks at another person. And who’s triggered?

    Hypocrite much?
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  • PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
    ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.
    Well, when people feel that the way a high school kid “looks at” another person should make national news, the bar is set pretty low for them and there is probably little that is not crazy triggering.

    Hey I'm pretty sure it was the entire event culminating in that smug little shit looking like a shithead as an elderly native man was reduced to trash.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
    ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.
    Well, when people feel that the way a high school kid “looks at” another person should make national news, the bar is set pretty low for them and there is probably little that is not crazy triggering.
    Please point out to me where I expressed how I feel about the way the kid looks at another person. And who’s triggered?

    Hypocrite much?
    I wasn’t really specifically talking about you when I said “people”. 
    narcissistic much?  
  • PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
    ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.
    Well, when people feel that the way a high school kid “looks at” another person should make national news, the bar is set pretty low for them and there is probably little that is not crazy triggering.
    Please point out to me where I expressed how I feel about the way the kid looks at another person. And who’s triggered?

    Hypocrite much?
    I wasn’t really specifically talking about you when I said “people”. 
    narcissistic much?  
    Well, your comment followed an offensive comment or two directed at me, how was I to know?
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
    ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.
    Well, when people feel that the way a high school kid “looks at” another person should make national news, the bar is set pretty low for them and there is probably little that is not crazy triggering.
    Please point out to me where I expressed how I feel about the way the kid looks at another person. And who’s triggered?

    Hypocrite much?
    I wasn’t really specifically talking about you when I said “people”. 
    narcissistic much?  
    Well, your comment followed an offensive comment or two directed at me, how was I to know?
    Reading comprehension?  
  • PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Crickets...I figured people around here would be giddily exuberant over the news of New York passing this...
    The debate is tired and old. Much prefer privileged catholic school boys, Native American drummers and black, Israelite Jews. 
    I bet you do “prefer privileged catholic school boys”...
    What are you suggesting? Are you suggesting Halifax is a member of the clergy?
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Crickets...I figured people around here would be giddily exuberant over the news of New York passing this...
    The debate is tired and old. Much prefer privileged catholic school boys, Native American drummers and black, Israelite Jews. 
    I bet you do “prefer privileged catholic school boys”...
    What are you suggesting? Are you suggesting Halifax is a member of the clergy?
    He does seem obsessed with piss porn. 
    This is true...hmmm
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
    ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.
    Well, when people feel that the way a high school kid “looks at” another person should make national news, the bar is set pretty low for them and there is probably little that is not crazy triggering.
    Please point out to me where I expressed how I feel about the way the kid looks at another person. And who’s triggered?

    Hypocrite much?
    I wasn’t really specifically talking about you when I said “people”. 
    narcissistic much?  
    Well, your comment followed an offensive comment or two directed at me, how was I to know?
    Reading comprehension?  
    ?
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited January 2019
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Crickets...I figured people around here would be giddily exuberant over the news of New York passing this...
    The debate is tired and old. Much prefer privileged catholic school boys, Native American drummers and black, Israelite Jews. 
    I bet you do “prefer privileged catholic school boys”...
    What are you suggesting? Are you suggesting Halifax is a member of the clergy?
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Crickets...I figured people around here would be giddily exuberant over the news of New York passing this...
    The debate is tired and old. Much prefer privileged catholic school boys, Native American drummers and black, Israelite Jews. 
    I bet you do “prefer privileged catholic school boys”...
    What are you suggesting? Are you suggesting Halifax is a member of the clergy?
    He does seem obsessed with piss porn. 
    This is true...hmmm
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
    ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.
    Well, when people feel that the way a high school kid “looks at” another person should make national news, the bar is set pretty low for them and there is probably little that is not crazy triggering.
    Please point out to me where I expressed how I feel about the way the kid looks at another person. And who’s triggered?

    Hypocrite much?
    I wasn’t really specifically talking about you when I said “people”. 
    narcissistic much?  
    Well, your comment followed an offensive comment or two directed at me, how was I to know?
    Reading comprehension?  
    ?
    Nice try, lol  There was a good point made about being obsessed with a Ptape...but I didn’t make it.

    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Crickets...I figured people around here would be giddily exuberant over the news of New York passing this...
    The debate is tired and old. Much prefer privileged catholic school boys, Native American drummers and black, Israelite Jews. 
    I bet you do “prefer privileged catholic school boys”...
    What are you suggesting? Are you suggesting Halifax is a member of the clergy?
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Crickets...I figured people around here would be giddily exuberant over the news of New York passing this...
    The debate is tired and old. Much prefer privileged catholic school boys, Native American drummers and black, Israelite Jews. 
    I bet you do “prefer privileged catholic school boys”...
    What are you suggesting? Are you suggesting Halifax is a member of the clergy?
    He does seem obsessed with piss porn. 
    This is true...hmmm
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
    ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.
    Well, when people feel that the way a high school kid “looks at” another person should make national news, the bar is set pretty low for them and there is probably little that is not crazy triggering.
    Please point out to me where I expressed how I feel about the way the kid looks at another person. And who’s triggered?

    Hypocrite much?
    I wasn’t really specifically talking about you when I said “people”. 
    narcissistic much?  
    Well, your comment followed an offensive comment or two directed at me, how was I to know?
    Reading comprehension?  
    ?
    Nice try, lol  There was a good point made about being obsessed with a Ptape...but I didn’t make it.

    But you did make a previous comment, correct?
     
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    Abortion should be....

    Legal
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    Available on demand 
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    PJPOWER said:
    Crickets...I figured people around here would be giddily exuberant over the news of New York passing this...
    Bud I am pro-choice but this new law seems pretty fucked up.  You can abort a six pound \ baby right before it is born?  Ugh I am not liking this at all.  
    And yes, Cuomo is a piece of shit.  Don't brag you are catholic then all of a sudden pass this law.:

    A bishop in Albany, New York, called out Gov. Andrew Cuomo for citing his Catholic faith and supporting recent legislation that legalizes abortion up until birth.

    Cuomo (D) signed the Reproductive Health Act on Tuesday, which he called "a historic victory for New Yorkers and for our progressive values."

    Days earlier, though, the governor touted his Catholic faith during his ninth State of the State address.

    In an open letter to Cuomo, Albany Bishop Rev. Edward B. Scharfenberger said it was "very difficult to understand" how the governor can cite his faith, yet advocate for such a "profoundly destructive legislation."

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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
     I thought the New York law was only if the mother's life was at risk or is that wrong? Seems like it could be abused for sure with the right doctor but I know if my wife's life was at risk and we were 35 weeks in I would opt for the abortion if the risk was that great. That is if there was no other way around it like a C section for example. At the end of the day it would be her call but I know what I would want. 
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,495
    PJNB said:
     I thought the New York law was only if the mother's life was at risk or is that wrong? Seems like it could be abused for sure with the right doctor but I know if my wife's life was at risk and we were 35 weeks in I would opt for the abortion if the risk was that great. That is if there was no other way around it like a C section for example. At the end of the day it would be her call but I know what I would want. 
    Agree with you there. However The law is very vague. It should be life or death but From what I am reading the mother could say she is financially destroyed or not mentally capable to have the child and legally could abort a day before her birth date.  Imagine aborting a seven pound child because you aren’t financially ready?  
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
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    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
     I thought the New York law was only if the mother's life was at risk or is that wrong? Seems like it could be abused for sure with the right doctor but I know if my wife's life was at risk and we were 35 weeks in I would opt for the abortion if the risk was that great. That is if there was no other way around it like a C section for example. At the end of the day it would be her call but I know what I would want. 
    Agree with you there. However The law is very vague. It should be life or death but From what I am reading the mother could say she is financially destroyed or not mentally capable to have the child and legally could abort a day before her birth date.  Imagine aborting a seven pound child because you aren’t financially ready?  
    Ya that is fucked up for sure. I just talked to my wife about this and we feel like it has good intentions to save the women obviously but looks like it could be easily abused as you said. There is always adoption as we all know especially if you are already that late in the trimester and your life is not at risk. 

    I go back and forth on pro life and pro choice myself and see arguments that I agree with on both sides. One stat that is incredibly sobering to me is that out of every 1400 recorded pregnancies roughly 400 were legally aborted in 2015 in NY. That is an insanely high number to me. 
  • Part of the problem with today’s political climate is folks claiming things or not understanding/comprehending what the issue is or means. I know it’s snopes and it’s an oversimplification but I don’t believe the NY law will allow a woman to carry a fetus to within a day of birth and then abort it for financial reasons. Health of the woman or lack of viability of the fetus after 24 weeks.

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  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,467
    Doing anything for your child should mean willing to die for them too. 
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  • Doing anything for your child should mean willing to die for them too. 

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  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,467
    Doing anything for your child should mean willing to die for them too. 

    Are you a woman?
    Nope. And that doesnt matter with what I said. 
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,495
    Doing anything for your child should mean willing to die for them too. 

    Are you a woman?
    Nope. And that doesnt matter with what I said. 
    I mean I am willing to die for my kids no doubt. They need a heart and mine matches then bye bye me.  I m not sure if I understand what you are saying. 
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  • Part of the problem with today’s political climate is folks claiming things or not understanding/comprehending what the issue is or means. I know it’s snopes and it’s an oversimplification but I don’t believe the NY law will allow a woman to carry a fetus to within a day of birth and then abort it for financial reasons. Health of the woman or lack of viability of the fetus after 24 weeks.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/new-york-abortions-birth/
    Seems by changing the word “life” to “health” as it relates to women’s pregnancy after the 24th week, the courts have previously ruled that “health” can include finances, mental well being and other factors. However, that said, I highly doubt a woman could walk into a facility a day before giving birth and “demand” an abortion for financial reasons. I suppose she could but I doubt the facility would perform it. There’s typically medical evaluation, counseling and a waiting period, blood tests, etc. that occur. Sounds like the extreme is being loudly broadcast by the pro-life crowd. Maybe that fella that exposed ACORN could knock up some chick and take her to a NY State abortion provider in her ninth month and try to get an abortion? You know, sacrifice one for the cause?
     
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