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Indictments incoming?

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 27,687
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    It doesn’t matter. Fraud, tax cheat, illegal business practices, big whoop, doesn’t matter.
    This is common practice in NY.  Fringe benefits being hidden is not a rare thing.  You could do this with most business' here.

    Hoping they find bigger nuggets than this.

    Sorry for the naysaying...

    they got capone on tax evasion.
    Little different but I see your point.  Capone made MILLIONS and didn't pay a cent.  It was very creative how they got him and him being a murderous crime boss and all.

    My point is that every company in NY does this pretty much so you could go knocking on every door and investigate and this happens.

    Again I would hope that they can find bigger things on people.
    You're saying Chase,  as a practice,  provides its employees benefits that are not taxed? Not a chance in the world that's true. 
    No, I'm saying that someone like Bovis, a NY construction company, puts money in their payrolls envelopes every week.

    A corporation like Chase is not putting cash in anything.  They hire people to shmooze for them.  That is why they purchase luxury boxes at sporting events.  I've been invited to many a suite to be wined and dined.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 22,043
    edited July 7
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    It doesn’t matter. Fraud, tax cheat, illegal business practices, big whoop, doesn’t matter.
    This is common practice in NY.  Fringe benefits being hidden is not a rare thing.  You could do this with most business' here.

    Hoping they find bigger nuggets than this.

    Sorry for the naysaying...

    they got capone on tax evasion.
    Little different but I see your point.  Capone made MILLIONS and didn't pay a cent.  It was very creative how they got him and him being a murderous crime boss and all.

    My point is that every company in NY does this pretty much so you could go knocking on every door and investigate and this happens.

    Again I would hope that they can find bigger things on people.
    You're saying Chase,  as a practice,  provides its employees benefits that are not taxed? Not a chance in the world that's true. 
    No, I'm saying that someone like Bovis, a NY construction company, puts money in their payrolls envelopes every week.

    A corporation like Chase is not putting cash in anything.  They hire people to shmooze for them.  That is why they purchase luxury boxes at sporting events.  I've been invited to many a suite to be wined and dined.
    You think chase runs the biggest retail bank in the country simply through luxury suites and schmoozing?  The vast,  vast majority of their employees are middle class essentially.  The majority of their net income is from consumer and community banking,  not investment. 

    Second,  putting cash in an envelope is a crime,  no matter how often it does or doesn't happen. 
    Post edited by mrussel1 on
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 11,727
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    It doesn’t matter. Fraud, tax cheat, illegal business practices, big whoop, doesn’t matter.
    This is common practice in NY.  Fringe benefits being hidden is not a rare thing.  You could do this with most business' here.

    Hoping they find bigger nuggets than this.

    Sorry for the naysaying...

    they got capone on tax evasion.
    Little different but I see your point.  Capone made MILLIONS and didn't pay a cent.  It was very creative how they got him and him being a murderous crime boss and all.

    My point is that every company in NY does this pretty much so you could go knocking on every door and investigate and this happens.

    Again I would hope that they can find bigger things on people.
    You're saying Chase,  as a practice,  provides its employees benefits that are not taxed? Not a chance in the world that's true. 
    No, I'm saying that someone like Bovis, a NY construction company, puts money in their payrolls envelopes every week.

    A corporation like Chase is not putting cash in anything.  They hire people to shmooze for them.  That is why they purchase luxury boxes at sporting events.  I've been invited to many a suite to be wined and dined.
    Right but those people they hire receive a W-2.  Trump was skipping the taxman completely.  
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 27,687
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    It doesn’t matter. Fraud, tax cheat, illegal business practices, big whoop, doesn’t matter.
    This is common practice in NY.  Fringe benefits being hidden is not a rare thing.  You could do this with most business' here.

    Hoping they find bigger nuggets than this.

    Sorry for the naysaying...

    they got capone on tax evasion.
    Little different but I see your point.  Capone made MILLIONS and didn't pay a cent.  It was very creative how they got him and him being a murderous crime boss and all.

    My point is that every company in NY does this pretty much so you could go knocking on every door and investigate and this happens.

    Again I would hope that they can find bigger things on people.
    You're saying Chase,  as a practice,  provides its employees benefits that are not taxed? Not a chance in the world that's true. 
    No, I'm saying that someone like Bovis, a NY construction company, puts money in their payrolls envelopes every week.

    A corporation like Chase is not putting cash in anything.  They hire people to shmooze for them.  That is why they purchase luxury boxes at sporting events.  I've been invited to many a suite to be wined and dined.
    You think chase runs the biggest retail bank in the country simply through luxury suites and schmoozing?  The vast,  vast majority of their employees are middle class essentially.  The majority of their net income is from consumer and community banking,  not investment. 

    Second,  putting cash in an envelope is a crime,  no matter how often it does or doesn't happen. 
    No, I don't.  I was giving you examples on how things like this happen all the time though. 

    The envelope w cash is a common practice here in NY.  Trying to tell you this whether it's illegal or not.

    Again it's not as large a scale as what Trump has been doing but it still happens to this day.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 40,189
    I would assume there are bigger things than what was in the first indictment and that would likely depend on some folks providing info (flipping). Seeing as how this small family business operates similar to the mafia, it's probably making things difficult. 

    When you're talking about the same organization that ran a fraudulent charity and fraudulent university, it's not a stretch to imagine them breaking the law in a more egregious manner here. 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 27,687
    I would assume there are bigger things than what was in the first indictment and that would likely depend on some folks providing info (flipping). Seeing as how this small family business operates similar to the mafia, it's probably making things difficult. 

    When you're talking about the same organization that ran a fraudulent charity and fraudulent university, it's not a stretch to imagine them breaking the law in a more egregious manner here. 
    Mar a Lago I think is one big sham.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 22,043
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    It doesn’t matter. Fraud, tax cheat, illegal business practices, big whoop, doesn’t matter.
    This is common practice in NY.  Fringe benefits being hidden is not a rare thing.  You could do this with most business' here.

    Hoping they find bigger nuggets than this.

    Sorry for the naysaying...

    they got capone on tax evasion.
    Little different but I see your point.  Capone made MILLIONS and didn't pay a cent.  It was very creative how they got him and him being a murderous crime boss and all.

    My point is that every company in NY does this pretty much so you could go knocking on every door and investigate and this happens.

    Again I would hope that they can find bigger things on people.
    You're saying Chase,  as a practice,  provides its employees benefits that are not taxed? Not a chance in the world that's true. 
    No, I'm saying that someone like Bovis, a NY construction company, puts money in their payrolls envelopes every week.

    A corporation like Chase is not putting cash in anything.  They hire people to shmooze for them.  That is why they purchase luxury boxes at sporting events.  I've been invited to many a suite to be wined and dined.
    You think chase runs the biggest retail bank in the country simply through luxury suites and schmoozing?  The vast,  vast majority of their employees are middle class essentially.  The majority of their net income is from consumer and community banking,  not investment. 

    Second,  putting cash in an envelope is a crime,  no matter how often it does or doesn't happen. 
    No, I don't.  I was giving you examples on how things like this happen all the time though. 

    The envelope w cash is a common practice here in NY.  Trying to tell you this whether it's illegal or not.

    Again it's not as large a scale as what Trump has been doing but it still happens to this day.
    I believe it does happen.  But it's sort of like the Dapper Don back in the 80's and 90's.  His mouth and flamboyant style put a target on his bank.  Same thing Trump does today.  
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 11,727
    Weisenberg is definitely in deep shit. He will have to flip at some point.  
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 27,687
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    It doesn’t matter. Fraud, tax cheat, illegal business practices, big whoop, doesn’t matter.
    This is common practice in NY.  Fringe benefits being hidden is not a rare thing.  You could do this with most business' here.

    Hoping they find bigger nuggets than this.

    Sorry for the naysaying...

    they got capone on tax evasion.
    Little different but I see your point.  Capone made MILLIONS and didn't pay a cent.  It was very creative how they got him and him being a murderous crime boss and all.

    My point is that every company in NY does this pretty much so you could go knocking on every door and investigate and this happens.

    Again I would hope that they can find bigger things on people.
    You're saying Chase,  as a practice,  provides its employees benefits that are not taxed? Not a chance in the world that's true. 
    No, I'm saying that someone like Bovis, a NY construction company, puts money in their payrolls envelopes every week.

    A corporation like Chase is not putting cash in anything.  They hire people to shmooze for them.  That is why they purchase luxury boxes at sporting events.  I've been invited to many a suite to be wined and dined.
    You think chase runs the biggest retail bank in the country simply through luxury suites and schmoozing?  The vast,  vast majority of their employees are middle class essentially.  The majority of their net income is from consumer and community banking,  not investment. 

    Second,  putting cash in an envelope is a crime,  no matter how often it does or doesn't happen. 
    No, I don't.  I was giving you examples on how things like this happen all the time though. 

    The envelope w cash is a common practice here in NY.  Trying to tell you this whether it's illegal or not.

    Again it's not as large a scale as what Trump has been doing but it still happens to this day.
    I believe it does happen.  But it's sort of like the Dapper Don back in the 80's and 90's.  His mouth and flamboyant style put a target on his bank.  Same thing Trump does today.  
    Are u thinking of Teflon Don? As in Don Gotti?  If so I totally agree.  He was a very brazen individual.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 22,043
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    It doesn’t matter. Fraud, tax cheat, illegal business practices, big whoop, doesn’t matter.
    This is common practice in NY.  Fringe benefits being hidden is not a rare thing.  You could do this with most business' here.

    Hoping they find bigger nuggets than this.

    Sorry for the naysaying...

    they got capone on tax evasion.
    Little different but I see your point.  Capone made MILLIONS and didn't pay a cent.  It was very creative how they got him and him being a murderous crime boss and all.

    My point is that every company in NY does this pretty much so you could go knocking on every door and investigate and this happens.

    Again I would hope that they can find bigger things on people.
    You're saying Chase,  as a practice,  provides its employees benefits that are not taxed? Not a chance in the world that's true. 
    No, I'm saying that someone like Bovis, a NY construction company, puts money in their payrolls envelopes every week.

    A corporation like Chase is not putting cash in anything.  They hire people to shmooze for them.  That is why they purchase luxury boxes at sporting events.  I've been invited to many a suite to be wined and dined.
    You think chase runs the biggest retail bank in the country simply through luxury suites and schmoozing?  The vast,  vast majority of their employees are middle class essentially.  The majority of their net income is from consumer and community banking,  not investment. 

    Second,  putting cash in an envelope is a crime,  no matter how often it does or doesn't happen. 
    No, I don't.  I was giving you examples on how things like this happen all the time though. 

    The envelope w cash is a common practice here in NY.  Trying to tell you this whether it's illegal or not.

    Again it's not as large a scale as what Trump has been doing but it still happens to this day.
    I believe it does happen.  But it's sort of like the Dapper Don back in the 80's and 90's.  His mouth and flamboyant style put a target on his bank.  Same thing Trump does today.  
    Are u thinking of Teflon Don? As in Don Gotti?  If so I totally agree.  He was a very brazen individual.
    John Gotti, yeah.  He was the Teflon Don and the Dapper Don.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,310
    Is it finally Hunter Biden's turn? I mean they did find his laptops, right? Maybe its Dominion's turn? That fraudet in Arizona is going along swimmingly. Maybe today's the day they kick in Hillary's door and drag her forth to face the music? Right? Its been 5 years already. And Bull Durham is still working away on those block buster revelations. What's taking so long?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,310
    edited July 20
    Oh look! An indictment! Unfortunately, not anyone associated with Hillary, Obama or the Bidens. Sigh. Only the best people folks, only the best. Ambassador to Mexico? bahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaaha! Sucker. Does anyone remember 666 Fifth Avenue? Sure you do. Oh, Jared? Jared Dear Boy, where are you Jared?

    Thomas Barrack, Trump ally who chaired inaugural committee, indicted in foreign lobbying case

    NEW YORK — Thomas J. Barrack, a longtime friend to former president Donald Trump and a billionaire businessman, was arrested on Tuesday for violating foreign lobbying laws, obstructing justice and making false statements, officials said Tuesday.

    Barrack, whose primary residence is in Los Angeles, was taken into custody in California and indicted on foreign lobbying charges related to his dealings with the United Arab Emirates, according to an indictment unsealed Tuesday afternoon.

    He and two other defendants are accused of acting and conspiring to act as agents of the UAE between April 2016 and April 2018. Officials also alleged that Barrack lied to FBI agents in 2019 during an interview about his dealings with the UAE. He did not immediately return a request for comment Tuesday.

    A real estate titan who became wealthy buying out-of-favor assets, Barrack was one of Trump's closest associates during the campaign and in office, regularly speaking to the former president, visiting him and channeling him to others, including business officials and leaders in foreign countries.

    He chaired Trump’s inaugural committee, which also faced federal investigation for its spending and activities, and at one point was considered as a candidate to become ambassador to Mexico.

    Barrack joins a long list of friends, campaign associates and other Trump advisers who have faced criminal charges, including his former campaign chairman; the chief financial officer at his company; the former Trump Organization lawyer; Trump’s former White House strategist; and his former national security adviser.

    Trump later pardoned some of those figures.

    Federal prosecutors say Barrack capitalized on his friendship with and access to Trump and other high-ranking and government officials, and his relationships with U.S. journalists, to “advance the policy goals of a foreign government without disclosing their true alliances.”

    On a number of occasions, the Justcie Department alleged, Barrack pushed the interests of the UAE to the Trump administration without disclosing that he was working on the country’s behalf.

    Barrack helped rescue Trump's business empire decades ago and was a top fundraiser for his campaign, though he declined to enter the administration. He was also a regular adviser on the Middle East, jetting through the region and talking with royalty and leaders, and sought to make Trump more interested in the topic.

    The real estate scion grew frustrated with some of Trump’s conduct in office and has told others his advice regularly went unheeded. He tried to convince Trump to agree to an orderly transition but failed, The Washington Post has reported.

    Thomas Barrack, Trump ally, indicted over UAE lobbying - The Washington Post

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 18,732
    making false statements can apply to pretty much anybody in the trumpoverse.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,310
    Has it happened yet?
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