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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,310
    Mmmmmmmmmmm, dots. Everyone likes dots, remember?

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    ALLEN WEISSELBERG DIDN'T KILL HIMSELF!
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    CM189191 said:
    ALLEN WEISSELBERG DIDN'T KILL HIMSELF!
    Haha.  Way to get ahead of the story!
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,310
    Big, beautiful, perfect, just the beginning indictments.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,310
    Juicy read, can’t wait.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,310
    It doesn’t matter. Fraud, tax cheat, illegal business practices, big whoop, doesn’t matter.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 24,927
    It doesn’t matter. Fraud, tax cheat, illegal business practices, big whoop, doesn’t matter.
    Damn right his empire has broken every law known to mankind! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 27,687
    It doesn’t matter. Fraud, tax cheat, illegal business practices, big whoop, doesn’t matter.
    This is common practice in NY.  Fringe benefits being hidden is not a rare thing.  You could do this with most business' here.

    Hoping they find bigger nuggets than this.

    Sorry for the naysaying...
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 21,907
    It doesn’t matter. Fraud, tax cheat, illegal business practices, big whoop, doesn’t matter.
    This is common practice in NY.  Fringe benefits being hidden is not a rare thing.  You could do this with most business' here.

    Hoping they find bigger nuggets than this.

    Sorry for the naysaying...

    they got capone on tax evasion.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 27,687
    mickeyrat said:
    It doesn’t matter. Fraud, tax cheat, illegal business practices, big whoop, doesn’t matter.
    This is common practice in NY.  Fringe benefits being hidden is not a rare thing.  You could do this with most business' here.

    Hoping they find bigger nuggets than this.

    Sorry for the naysaying...

    they got capone on tax evasion.
    Little different but I see your point.  Capone made MILLIONS and didn't pay a cent.  It was very creative how they got him and him being a murderous crime boss and all.

    My point is that every company in NY does this pretty much so you could go knocking on every door and investigate and this happens.

    Again I would hope that they can find bigger things on people.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 8,888
    mickeyrat said:
    It doesn’t matter. Fraud, tax cheat, illegal business practices, big whoop, doesn’t matter.
    This is common practice in NY.  Fringe benefits being hidden is not a rare thing.  You could do this with most business' here.

    Hoping they find bigger nuggets than this.

    Sorry for the naysaying...

    they got capone on tax evasion.
    Little different but I see your point.  Capone made MILLIONS and didn't pay a cent.  It was very creative how they got him and him being a murderous crime boss and all.

    My point is that every company in NY does this pretty much so you could go knocking on every door and investigate and this happens.

    Again I would hope that they can find bigger things on people.
    My understanding is that it is not so much about the company doing it. That it's about Weiselberg not reporting it on his taxes.
    That free apartment is a taxable benefit which he supposedly never listed or paid.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 21,907
    mickeyrat said:
    It doesn’t matter. Fraud, tax cheat, illegal business practices, big whoop, doesn’t matter.
    This is common practice in NY.  Fringe benefits being hidden is not a rare thing.  You could do this with most business' here.

    Hoping they find bigger nuggets than this.

    Sorry for the naysaying...

    they got capone on tax evasion.
    Little different but I see your point.  Capone made MILLIONS and didn't pay a cent.  It was very creative how they got him and him being a murderous crime boss and all.

    My point is that every company in NY does this pretty much so you could go knocking on every door and investigate and this happens.

    Again I would hope that they can find bigger things on people.
    My understanding is that it is not so much about the company doing it. That it's about Weiselberg not reporting it on his taxes.
    That free apartment is a taxable benefit which he supposedly never listed or paid.
    like a certain apartment in trump tower?

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 27,687
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    It doesn’t matter. Fraud, tax cheat, illegal business practices, big whoop, doesn’t matter.
    This is common practice in NY.  Fringe benefits being hidden is not a rare thing.  You could do this with most business' here.

    Hoping they find bigger nuggets than this.

    Sorry for the naysaying...

    they got capone on tax evasion.
    Little different but I see your point.  Capone made MILLIONS and didn't pay a cent.  It was very creative how they got him and him being a murderous crime boss and all.

    My point is that every company in NY does this pretty much so you could go knocking on every door and investigate and this happens.

    Again I would hope that they can find bigger things on people.
    My understanding is that it is not so much about the company doing it. That it's about Weiselberg not reporting it on his taxes.
    That free apartment is a taxable benefit which he supposedly never listed or paid.
    like a certain apartment in trump tower?

    I'm sure Mira Lago has an attachment too somewhere.

    When they start digging in there my interest will be high.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,310
    edited July 2
    It doesn’t matter. Fraud, tax cheat, illegal business practices, big whoop, doesn’t matter.
    This is common practice in NY.  Fringe benefits being hidden is not a rare thing.  You could do this with most business' here.

    Hoping they find bigger nuggets than this.

    Sorry for the naysaying...
    Leona Helmsley went to prison for less. And these types of crimes are prosecuted all the time so I guess they do go knocking on doors. Do us a favor and go see your boss, and ask him to pay half your salary under the table in cash ‘Murican and in direct payment for your mortgage or that dream first class vacation you’ve always wanted to take. If he seems hesitant, offer % kickback. Or skip him/her and go directly to finance and accounting or payroll.

    Let us know how you make out.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,310
    Martha Stewart did time for less.
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    Martha Stewart did time for less.

    I'm sure her cell was a model of jailhouse shabby chic. 
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 4,068
    mickeyrat said:
    It doesn’t matter. Fraud, tax cheat, illegal business practices, big whoop, doesn’t matter.
    This is common practice in NY.  Fringe benefits being hidden is not a rare thing.  You could do this with most business' here.

    Hoping they find bigger nuggets than this.

    Sorry for the naysaying...

    they got capone on tax evasion.
    Little different but I see your point.  Capone made MILLIONS and didn't pay a cent.  It was very creative how they got him and him being a murderous crime boss and all.

    My point is that every company in NY does this pretty much so you could go knocking on every door and investigate and this happens.

    Again I would hope that they can find bigger things on people.
    My understanding is that it is not so much about the company doing it. That it's about Weiselberg not reporting it on his taxes.
    That free apartment is a taxable benefit which he supposedly never listed or paid.

     Its kinda the problem with how Republicans have destroyed American culture.  Fraud and theft are viewed as no big deal. 

    Trumps company stole money from NY and US taxpayers.  Trumps company kept separate spreadsheets for the off the books compensation by specific employees so they knew exactly how much they were getting paid while the govt was lied to.

    So far we know trump stole about a million dollars from taxpayers for the benefit of one executive.  Its likely many more had similar deals. Its likely the total theft was over ten million. 

    If we had proof of trump, ivanka and Eric stealing ten million from a bank, would that be considered a bigger deal?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,310
    edited July 2
    mickeyrat said:
    It doesn’t matter. Fraud, tax cheat, illegal business practices, big whoop, doesn’t matter.
    This is common practice in NY.  Fringe benefits being hidden is not a rare thing.  You could do this with most business' here.

    Hoping they find bigger nuggets than this.

    Sorry for the naysaying...

    they got capone on tax evasion.
    Little different but I see your point.  Capone made MILLIONS and didn't pay a cent.  It was very creative how they got him and him being a murderous crime boss and all.

    My point is that every company in NY does this pretty much so you could go knocking on every door and investigate and this happens.

    Again I would hope that they can find bigger things on people.
    My understanding is that it is not so much about the company doing it. That it's about Weiselberg not reporting it on his taxes.
    That free apartment is a taxable benefit which he supposedly never listed or paid.

     Its kinda the problem with how Republicans have destroyed American culture.  Fraud and theft are viewed as no big deal. 

    Trumps company stole money from NY and US taxpayers.  Trumps company kept separate spreadsheets for the off the books compensation by specific employees so they knew exactly how much they were getting paid while the govt was lied to.

    So far we know trump stole about a million dollars from taxpayers for the benefit of one executive.  Its likely many more had similar deals. Its likely the total theft was over ten million. 

    If we had proof of trump, ivanka and Eric stealing ten million from a bank, would that be considered a bigger deal?
    NYT Pulitzer winning journalists tracked $26 Million to a dead end but the appearance seemed to suggest that it was much like Weisselberg’s compensation. Ivanka Darlink was in for $2 million as an officer of the company and a paid consultant. Whoops. There’s a reason POOTWH has 600 shell companies and it’s not because he’s a “successful real estate developer.”


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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 10,986
    Martha Stewart did time for less.
    …..than what countless government officials have done in the last year.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,310
    Imagine the outrage when a black woman in power dissolves POOTWH’s criminal enterprise organization? Oh, and the name of that POOTWH owned company from which Ivanka Darlink was paid? TTT.

    Brilliant brilliance in all its brilliancy.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 22,043
    mickeyrat said:
    It doesn’t matter. Fraud, tax cheat, illegal business practices, big whoop, doesn’t matter.
    This is common practice in NY.  Fringe benefits being hidden is not a rare thing.  You could do this with most business' here.

    Hoping they find bigger nuggets than this.

    Sorry for the naysaying...

    they got capone on tax evasion.
    Little different but I see your point.  Capone made MILLIONS and didn't pay a cent.  It was very creative how they got him and him being a murderous crime boss and all.

    My point is that every company in NY does this pretty much so you could go knocking on every door and investigate and this happens.

    Again I would hope that they can find bigger things on people.
    You're saying Chase,  as a practice,  provides its employees benefits that are not taxed? Not a chance in the world that's true. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,310
    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    Day after Weisselberg is indicted, I thought this had aged well. To the bold, sure they are, sure they are.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 24,927
    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    Day after Weisselberg is indicted, I thought this had aged well. To the bold, sure they are, sure they are.
    I wonder if his pizza is as good as his political logic lol 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • HobbesHobbes Pacific NorthwestPosts: 5,000
    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    Day after Weisselberg is indicted, I thought this had aged well. To the bold, sure they are, sure they are.
    I wonder if his pizza is as good as his political logic lol 
    His political "logic" is the equivalent of melting cheese on a bagel and calling it "pizza."
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,310
    How delusional do you have to be when even POOTWH's AG, CYA Barr, has stated that he doesn't expect there to be indictments of Obama or Biden? Talk about grasping at straws and going down rabbit holes? August is coming, it'll be here soon.

    Special Counsel Spends $1.5 Million in Probe of Russia Inquiry

    The U.S. Justice Department released the first official expenditure report for the special investigation into the origins of the FBI’s Russia inquiry -- providing a rare bit of insight into the secretive review more than two years after it was begun in response to demands by then-President Donald Trump.

    The inquiry being led by Special Counsel John Durham spent about $1.5 million from Oct. 19 to March 31, according to the report from the Justice Department released Thursday.

    Of that, Durham directly spent about $934,000, mostly on personnel, while Justice Department units spent about $520,000 to support the investigation, according to the five-page report.

    In April 2019, Attorney General William Barr appointed Durham, a U.S. attorney in Connecticut, to look into whether FBI or intelligence officials committed crimes when they investigated whether anyone associated with Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign conspired with Russia to interfere in that year’s election.

    Barr named Durham as a special counsel in October 2020 in an effort to protect him if Trump lost re-election. It’s unclear how much Durham has spent in total, as he was only required to report expenditures since the special counsel designation.

    Trump and his conservative allies have made repeated and unsubstantiated claims that a cabal of “deep state” officials illegally spied on Trump’s 2016 campaign and took actions to sabotage his presidency. Although they’ve been counting on the Durham investigation to uncover scandals to back up their assertions, frustration has grown with the lack of new developments and silence from the special counsel’s office.

    “Where’s Durham?” Trump asked in a statement in March, months after losing the 2020 election to Joe Biden. “Is he a living, breathing human being? Will there ever be a Durham report?”

    Durham’s work has now gone on longer than the investigation by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who took over the original Russia interference probe in May 2017 and concluded it in March 2019. Critics continue to question the value of Durham’s inquiry and whether it should be shut down.

    “Now that Durham’s probe into the FBI’s Russia probe has lasted longer even than the protracted Mueller investigation, it’s hard not to get an Alice-in-Wonderland sense about whatever bottomless rabbit holes these guys are burrowing into,” constitutional law scholar Laurence Tribe said.

    The decision on what to do with Durham’s investigation rests with the Biden administration’s attorney general, Merrick Garland. The Justice Department declined to comment on Garland’s position, saying only that he pledged during his Senate confirmation hearing to meet with the special counsel to learn the status of the probe. Garland also said at the time he had no reason to doubt Barr’s decision allowing Durham to proceed.

    Risks for Garland

    Garland and the Justice Department face political risks, however, if they try to curb or end Durham’s investigation.

    “I suppose DOJ should push Durham to provide a status update, but I doubt much would come from such a push as long as the political costs of forcing Durham to wind things up and close up shop exceed the legal benefits of doing so,” Tribe said in an emailed response to questions.

    More than two years in, Durham has secured one guilty plea from a former FBI lawyer who acknowledged falsifying an email when seeking to renew a secret warrant to conduct surveillance on Carter Page, a former Trump campaign aide. The lawyer, Kevin Clinesmith, admitted he changed the email to incorrectly say that Page hadn’t been a CIA source. He pleaded guilty last August to falsifying a document.

    By comparison, the Mueller investigation resulted in 34 indictments, including the conviction of Trump’s campaign manager Paul Manafort for unrelated financial crimes and a guilty plea from Trump’s first national security adviser, Michael Flynn, for lying to the FBI. Trump pardoned Manafort and Flynn in December.

    Mueller also documented almost a dozen examples of possible obstruction of justice by Trump, and his investigation exposed a massive criminal conspiracy by Russian operatives to interfere in the 2016 election.

    Mueller’s investigation cost about $32 million, of which $16 million was spent directly by Mueller and the rest by Justice Department components in support of the probe.

    A department watchdog concluded in December 2019 that FBI officials acted legally, and were justified, in opening the Russia probe, code-named Crossfire Hurricane, in July 2016. The inspector general didn’t find evidence that anti-Trump bias affected the investigation, even though mistakes were made that led the FBI to change some internal procedures.

    Barr said in December that while Durham’s investigation began very broadly, it had “narrowed considerably” and was “focused on the activities of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation within the FBI.” Barr had previously said he didn’t expect Durham’s investigation would lead to a criminal investigation of former President Barack Obama, who was in office when Crossfire Hurricane began, or Biden, then the vice president.

    Special Counsel Spends $1.5 Million in Probe of Russia Inquiry - Bloomberg

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 40,189
    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    Day after Weisselberg is indicted, I thought this had aged well. To the bold, sure they are, sure they are.
    To be fair, he said "just before the "inauguration of Trump." Based on Mr. @RoleModelsinBlood31 's post history, I'm assuming he thinks that inauguration day is at some point in August, or perhaps later this Fall. 

    lol
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 11,727
    I read that some compensation paid was reported as "Holiday Entertainment" on the books.  There is tax evasion here for sure.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,310
    I read that some compensation paid was reported as "Holiday Entertainment" on the books.  There is tax evasion here for sure.
    I’m looking forward to the money laundering charges. That’ll be buried deep within the 600 shell companies and may take years to uncover or a “flip.”
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