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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    edited September 2021
    What are they hiding? 

    Trump Organization faces new scrutiny in New York civil probe

    The Trump Organization is facing new pressure to comply with a New York state civil investigation into the company's financial dealings.

    A New York judge has given the former president's company until next week to report on its efforts to furnish records subpoenaed by the state attorney general, according to a court order unsealed on Friday.

    The judge's order also gives New York state Attorney General Letitia James (D) a possible avenue to bring on a third party to assist with collecting company records for the probe, which is looking into whether Trump misled banks and insurers about the value of his financial assets.

    The court order, signed earlier this month and made public Friday, comes amid ongoing clashes between the Trump Organization and James over her office's requests for documents and depositions.

    "For more than a year now, the Trump Organization has failed to adequately respond to our subpoenas, hiding behind procedural delays and excuses," James said in a statement. "Once again, the court has ordered that the Trump Organization must turn over the information and documents we are seeking, otherwise face an independent third-party that will ensure that takes place."

    An attorney for the Trump Organization did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    The New York attorney general opened the investigation in March 2019 after the president's former attorney, Michael Cohen, testified to Congress that President Trump had altered the value of his assets in financial statements in order to get loans, better insurance rates and tax breaks.

    Trump Organization faces new scrutiny in New York civil probe (msn.com)

    “There was no collusion.”

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    “I thought he was Israeli.”

    Follow the damn money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment 2Xs.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    Where's Bull Durham when you need him? From Letter From an American:

    Perhaps the Democrats are pushing back on the bullying of the Trump loyalists in part because some who have previously escaped legal jeopardy are now in trouble. In Florida, Gaetz’s former friend Joel Greenberg, who has pleaded guilty to sex trafficking, got an extension on sentencing Monday because he is still providing information to investigators. Assistant U.S. Attorney Roger Handberg told the court that Greenberg has made allegations that "take us to some places we did not anticipate." 

    There is a shorter timeline for Representative Jeff Fortenberry (R-NE), who was indicted yesterday for lying to the FBI about foreign campaign contributions (which are illegal under U.S. law). Fortenberry uploaded a video to YouTube, titled “I wanted you to hear from me first,” giving his version of events before the indictment dropped. In the video, filmed in a car with his wife and dog, he talked of the money in question but insisted he didn’t know it was from a foreign donor. Unfortunately, it appears there was a phone call between the congressman and the co-host of the fundraiser that brought in the illegal money. That individual was cooperating with the FBI, and in the call, he and Fortenberry discussed the illegal money in clear terms. 


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    Seems Bull Durham has some splaining to do. Maybe he should follow Ruddy Ghouliani and lose his license to practice law?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,548
    what?
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  • HobbesHobbes Posts: 6,423
    mickeyrat said:
    what?
    Rachel Maddow reports on a new letter to special counsel John Durham and Attorney General Merrick Garland from the lawyer for a tech expert that pushes back on how researchers' findings about interactions between a server related to Alfa-Bank and a server related to the Trump Organization are characterized in Durham's indictment of Michael Sussmann.

    In new letter, tech expert's lawyer insists Alfa-Bank, Trump server data is no hoax (msnbc.com)
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,548
    Hobbes said:
    mickeyrat said:
    what?
    Rachel Maddow reports on a new letter to special counsel John Durham and Attorney General Merrick Garland from the lawyer for a tech expert that pushes back on how researchers' findings about interactions between a server related to Alfa-Bank and a server related to the Trump Organization are characterized in Durham's indictment of Michael Sussmann.

    In new letter, tech expert's lawyer insists Alfa-Bank, Trump server data is no hoax (msnbc.com)

    thank you. tried a search in wapo, nyt and ap and got nothing. google knows all....
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    edited December 2021
    Dear Santa,

    All I want for Christmas is an indictment, preferably one for Hillary Clinton. But any indictment issued by Special Counsel Bull Durham will do. Especially if it's for Obama. Or Hunter Biden. Or even Brandon. I mean, I've been super good and everything and I know if there is one person who can grant me my wish, it's you Santa. Please? And can you please make it a really big indictment? You know, like one that justifies and reflects the Fruit from the Poisonous Tree? Maybe like one of those Edible Delights? Or a gift basket from Larry David? Anyways, with flying reindeer and your ability to squeeze down chimneys, you have to be able to get the goods on one of these communist, socialist, God and country haters and put them in Bull Durham's stocking, right? Please Santa, please? I mean you have elves too, right? Please Santa? Please make the goods and put them in Bull Durham's stocking so you can give me what I really want, a big, beautiful, grandest of them all, biggest indictment ever, even bigger and taller than the Rockerfeller Center Christmas Tree (I would have referenced the bigger, better, best tree at Fox News but it burnt down, sadly) and with more poisonous fruit than the fruited plain and brilliantly brilliant in all its brilliance!!! And to all a good night!

    Merry Christmas, Santa!

    Love, Eric TRUMP

    PS: I'll leave you a Diet Coke and a hamberder on the mantel by my stocking, the one that says Eric TRUMP on it and that will be empty. My dad only loves Ivanka Darlink.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    I’ll take a pizza bagel. Maybe?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    And a side of forthcoming indictments. Tick tock. Letitia is busy in that kitchen. You go girl!

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/19/politics/new-york-attorney-general-trump-organization-investigation/index.html
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  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,753
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And a side of forthcoming indictments. Tick tock. Letitia is busy in that kitchen. You go girl!

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/19/politics/new-york-attorney-general-trump-organization-investigation/index.html
    Question...

    If the AG has significant evidence, what's the purpose of going public with this without announcing any charges? I get that they're trying to compel them to make a deposition, but if I had to guess, the Trumps are now going to stall stall stall and by the time they do make any depositions, they'll either plea the 5th or conveniently not recall a heck of a lot. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    Parksy said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And a side of forthcoming indictments. Tick tock. Letitia is busy in that kitchen. You go girl!

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/19/politics/new-york-attorney-general-trump-organization-investigation/index.html
    Question...

    If the AG has significant evidence, what's the purpose of going public with this without announcing any charges? I get that they're trying to compel them to make a deposition, but if I had to guess, the Trumps are now going to stall stall stall and by the time they do make any depositions, they'll either plea the 5th or conveniently not recall a heck of a lot. 
    This is a civil investigation, not criminal.  
  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,753
    mrussel1 said:
    Parksy said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And a side of forthcoming indictments. Tick tock. Letitia is busy in that kitchen. You go girl!

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/19/politics/new-york-attorney-general-trump-organization-investigation/index.html
    Question...

    If the AG has significant evidence, what's the purpose of going public with this without announcing any charges? I get that they're trying to compel them to make a deposition, but if I had to guess, the Trumps are now going to stall stall stall and by the time they do make any depositions, they'll either plea the 5th or conveniently not recall a heck of a lot. 
    This is a civil investigation, not criminal.  
    Isn't there a criminal fraud investigation as well? 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    Parksy said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Parksy said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And a side of forthcoming indictments. Tick tock. Letitia is busy in that kitchen. You go girl!

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/19/politics/new-york-attorney-general-trump-organization-investigation/index.html
    Question...

    If the AG has significant evidence, what's the purpose of going public with this without announcing any charges? I get that they're trying to compel them to make a deposition, but if I had to guess, the Trumps are now going to stall stall stall and by the time they do make any depositions, they'll either plea the 5th or conveniently not recall a heck of a lot. 
    This is a civil investigation, not criminal.  
    Isn't there a criminal fraud investigation as well? 
    Yes, that is a different case.  Weisselberg and the Trump org is under indictment.  
  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,753
    Would the civil penalties be monetary only? 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    Parksy said:
    Would the civil penalties be monetary only? 
    Not necessarily.  There could be consent orders that affect future business practices, reporting requirements to the state, judgments, etc.  But not jail time or anything else that is criminal in nature.  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    Worse case, the state could dissolve the business, but that would be highly unusual and very dramatic. 
  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,753
    I guess that's sort of what I'm getting at.. like all this drama about all this evidence, realistically, what's the worst that could happen to this guy?  
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    Parksy said:
    I guess that's sort of what I'm getting at.. like all this drama about all this evidence, realistically, what's the worst that could happen to this guy?  
    The worst thing is he loses his ability to operate a business in NY, if he is a principle.  But I can tell you that consent orders are very painful.  So yeah, not nearly as bad as a criminal charge, but not great.  
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,548
    but could be used criminally
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    Here's a good synopsis of what POOTWH is facing on the legal front and why he'll either run for office or quid pro quo Deathsantis to stay out of the race. And prison.

    "In the past, Trump's approach to any legal trouble has been to brush it off as some sort of political gamesmanship," said Jimmy Gurule, a former Justice Department official in the George H.W. Bush administration. "But these are investigations on multiple levels, examining multiple courses of conduct. These are exceedingly serious matters. The big difference is that he is no longer president and the mantle of immunity is no longer available to him."

    Fresh revelations in New York court underscore Trump's legal peril on multiple fronts (msn.com)
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    Bull? Bull? Oh Bull? Buuuuuuull! Bull Durham! Where you at? Where’s Hillary? Hunter? Buuuuuuull! Where you at? Where are those indictments? Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuull????????!!!
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,247
    unsung said:

    LOL....yeah...total bullshit
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    Gern Blansten said:
    unsung said:

    LOL....yeah...total bullshit
    "obamagate. yeah you know what it is."

    lol
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    https://youtu.be/dTLu8vCH4Os

  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,904
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    unsung said:

    LOL....yeah...total bullshit
    "obamagate. yeah you know what it is."

    lol
    God, I love this thread.

    Also, I hope no one tried to cash Bongino's check...
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,904
    https://youtu.be/09Nan-uARF4
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,965
    what the sweet fuck was that lol
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    what is obamagate and what is the memo? who is Dan Bonobo?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    The Juggler said:
    https://youtu.be/09Nan-uARF4
    dan bongino got the permaban from youtube recently. he may sign up and post here to improve his reach.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,904
    static111 said:
    what is obamagate and what is the memo? who is Dan Bonobo?
    These are all excellent questions. 
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