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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 4,090
    We are all in this together 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 18,022
    PJ_Soul said
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:

    Counselling NHS...

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/counselling/

    In 2 seconds I found out how you can access free therapy paid by your health service.

    If you are relying on your GP for your mental health ... you'll never get better.  GP's are just that, general practitioners...therapist special in helping you sort out your problems.



    You seem to be assuming that lastexitlondon is completely clueless and has never been to therapy, which is not the case.
    Thank you because im getting a little annoyed here. 
    Understandable - there is some serious condescension going on here.
    my comments weren't directed at lastexit. he keeps talking about dementia, not anxiety. 
    I wasn't talking about you at all!
    Same . HFD has helped me understand a lot. Very constructively
    good. I'm just paranoid lately as it seems several people have taken some of my posts the wrong way. 
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 4,090
    I understand . This place is not great sometimes for sniping and also ganging up seems to happen. But im keen on this thread being helpful and safe
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 5,872
    PJ_Soul said:

    Counselling NHS...

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/counselling/

    In 2 seconds I found out how you can access free therapy paid by your health service.

    If you are relying on your GP for your mental health ... you'll never get better.  GP's are just that, general practitioners...therapist special in helping you sort out your problems.



    You seem to be assuming that lastexitlondon is completely clueless and has never been to therapy, which is not the case.
    At some point you have to help yourself as well.  Coming to a bands website and constantly saying your not getting help/better is not going to change your situation.  Why keep going to your GP thinking you have dementia when he's saying you don't, yet he is convinced he has dementia.  If he doesn't trust what his dr is saying...why come here and complain. 
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 4,090
    edited April 2018
    Im not complaining. You clearly don't understand what health anxiety even is..i find some of the things you say really out of touch. Why does anybody visit these pages and start a thread about anything if this is the attitude
     You don't have to read or comment.
    I am an intelligent adult human who has a story or journey like everyone else if i want to come here i will. I suggest you post your story in your thread . 
    You seem very narrow minded and one dimensional. Thats good if it works for you
     But I've seen you post many places equally as single minded. Which is your choice but please don't insinuate or presume you know what i NEED or what helped you MUST help me.
      
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 4,090
    Oh and what would you suggest is helping myself? Im interested to know. It might help
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 46,857
    edited April 2018
    PJ_Soul said:

    Counselling NHS...

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/counselling/

    In 2 seconds I found out how you can access free therapy paid by your health service.

    If you are relying on your GP for your mental health ... you'll never get better.  GP's are just that, general practitioners...therapist special in helping you sort out your problems.



    You seem to be assuming that lastexitlondon is completely clueless and has never been to therapy, which is not the case.
    At some point you have to help yourself as well.  Coming to a bands website and constantly saying your not getting help/better is not going to change your situation.  Why keep going to your GP thinking you have dementia when he's saying you don't, yet he is convinced he has dementia.  If he doesn't trust what his dr is saying...why come here and complain. 
    You know, you've got a right to your opinion, but this is not the thread to be doing what you're doing. This is a support thread, and one that's obviously used at least partly as a form of catharsis, not one where it's appropriate for you to question why people are seeking support here and saying they're complaining. Read the mood man.
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 4,090
    I can't explain anymore to someone who is clueless. See ya later
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 46,857
    I can't explain anymore to someone who is clueless. See ya later
    Just forget about him and move on. :) Most people here get it!
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 4,090
    Im going to sleep now. You know ive come across many people and kinds on my work and life and ive understood more the worse i have become. I actually feel sad when people say basically jog it off because i did. It says a lot about that person. Anyway like i said before and you did pj soul its about support. If you can't do that don't bother being here. Halts maul . Take your waste elsewhere. Goodnight all
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  • hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of foreverPosts: 19,532
    I think it's also about venting and getting insight from others here who have been (or still are) in dark places.  If even that is beneficial for just a bit, for just a few moments, I can't begrudge anyone that, especially when they're making a point of trying to better themselves.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 18,022
    PJ_Soul said:

    Counselling NHS...

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/counselling/

    In 2 seconds I found out how you can access free therapy paid by your health service.

    If you are relying on your GP for your mental health ... you'll never get better.  GP's are just that, general practitioners...therapist special in helping you sort out your problems.



    You seem to be assuming that lastexitlondon is completely clueless and has never been to therapy, which is not the case.
    At some point you have to help yourself as well.  Coming to a bands website and constantly saying your not getting help/better is not going to change your situation.  Why keep going to your GP thinking you have dementia when he's saying you don't, yet he is convinced he has dementia.  If he doesn't trust what his dr is saying...why come here and complain. 
    we had another poster here that eventually got banned a while back who did what you are doing in a mental health thread. derailed it by basiclaly doing what you are doing. please stop. this is not helping. I have spoken to lastexit on these forums and in pm. he has been doing an immense amount of work trying to get better. 

    I have been in his shoes, to an infinitely smaller degree. GP's and specialists who basically tell you that nothing is wrong. really? nothing is wrong when I'm doubled over in pain, unable to eat, sleep, function, etc? that's what he's getting. he's gotten so much help, in fact, that he is starting to get turned away. you simply have no idea what he's going through. 

    I know you may think you are helping, but you are absolutely going about it the incorrect way. it is counterproductive to the idea of this thread. read the title FFS. 
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 5,872
    Im not complaining. You clearly don't understand what health anxiety even is..i find some of the things you say really out of touch. Why does anybody visit these pages and start a thread about anything if this is the attitude
     You don't have to read or comment.
    I am an intelligent adult human who has a story or journey like everyone else if i want to come here i will. I suggest you post your story in your thread . 
    You seem very narrow minded and one dimensional. Thats good if it works for you
     But I've seen you post many places equally as single minded. Which is your choice but please don't insinuate or presume you know what i NEED or what helped you MUST help me.
      
    Why do you not trust your dr.?  Listen, I had a serious medical alarm, which could signal cancer, I had to see a specialist to find out what was wrong, I asked my dr. point blank "do you think its cancer", he said no it's not ... I choose to have faith in him, I was proven right to have faith in him.  How old is your dr.?  A general practitioner is not where you seek mental health therapy.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 46,857
    edited April 2018
    Im not complaining. You clearly don't understand what health anxiety even is..i find some of the things you say really out of touch. Why does anybody visit these pages and start a thread about anything if this is the attitude
     You don't have to read or comment.
    I am an intelligent adult human who has a story or journey like everyone else if i want to come here i will. I suggest you post your story in your thread . 
    You seem very narrow minded and one dimensional. Thats good if it works for you
     But I've seen you post many places equally as single minded. Which is your choice but please don't insinuate or presume you know what i NEED or what helped you MUST help me.
      
    Why do you not trust your dr.?  Listen, I had a serious medical alarm, which could signal cancer, I had to see a specialist to find out what was wrong, I asked my dr. point blank "do you think its cancer", he said no it's not ... I choose to have faith in him, I was proven right to have faith in him.  How old is your dr.?  A general practitioner is not where you seek mental health therapy.
    My sister went to six different specialists who all said "it was nothing", and then the 7th doctor discovered the cancer - by that time it had reached her lymph nodes and she required surgeries, skin graphs, the works, and she almost lost her arm. If my sister had trusted any one of those first 6 and highly recommended doctors she'd be dead right now. I guess this is another example proving that your own medical experiences don't necessarily apply to those of others.
    Again, lastexitlondon has been dealing with this for 20 years, and has absolutely not just left it to a GP. That said, sometimes going to the GP is the right option to choose during crisis moments, depending on the resources immediately available.
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    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • camsjamcamsjam Posts: 349
    I wish I had an answer for you Last Exit. It sounds like you have already tried so hard. My own personal experience knows you can't just wish it away and distractions are temporary. You do have a partner and kids that love you and a lot of people here hope you keep fighting for yourself. Heart and thoughts  sent out your way.
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 4,090
    camsjam said:
    I wish I had an answer for you Last Exit. It sounds like you have already tried so hard. My own personal experience knows you can't just wish it away and distractions are temporary. You do have a partner and kids that love you and a lot of people here hope you keep fighting for yourself. Heart and thoughts  sent out your way.
    These words are so lovely im so grateful of the kindness and love. Oh just saw we share a birthday . Weird hey
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 14,658
    which is more disconcerting and disrupting to you? the believed impairment or the worry and anxiety surrounding the impairment?
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 4,090
    The first one
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 26,952
    One of the best antidotes to the despair of anxiety I know of is to find something new to be as interested  in as much possible and hopefully something to actually get excited about- be it a new hobby, getting into music not listen to before, delving into a new subject in reading, reinvesting time in a charitable (or for me, environmental) cause- anything that stimulates the brain chemistry in a healthy way.  And there is no end to interesting subjects to submerge oneself into.
    “Finding beauty in a broken world is creating beauty in the world we find.”
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 4,090
    I ve been thinking the problem here for me atm is that i do not see this as anxiety at all my symptoms stop me living. I have desire to be "doing" again. But im stopped and its worsening is distressing me so very much i can't function. I do not see anxiety but i know i have fear. Its so hard to do anything with confusion and poor memory. Im baffled totally baffled as to what i can do to live again like this if possible
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  • camsjamcamsjam Posts: 349
    Well nice to meet a birthday brother! It's ironic how I used to think our "power numbers" meant we would always be lucky in life. As I said before I wish I had an answer to ease your struggles. I can't imagine how difficult it must be. And I believe you are showing a lot of courage every time you are able to get out and do anything. My own experiences are a pale shadow of what you face and I know how hard it is to get the desire, energy and guts to face another day sometimes. And people who haven't  had to deal with it just don't understand. It's not a mood, choice or a rough patch but a true fight for a life. Please keep fighting. If you'd feel okay PMing me an address I'd like to send you a bday card. Just get thru each day as it comes. 
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 4,090
    Wow ok cool. Im fighting the hardest i ever have
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 11,866
    All other posts aside, on the topic of working to beat anxiety...
    It does take work, and I haven't seen many (any?) posts about Cognitive Behavioural Therapy.  It's really the only solution to anxiety.  Drugs, clean living, exercise, etc those are stopgap measures that ameliorate symptoms, but they don't address the source.
    My time dealing with anxiety was intense but only lasted a few months.  During that time I researched CBT relentlessly and devised my own personal system of rerouting bad thoughts, confronting triggers, and ruthlessly attacking the anxiety like it was an external foe.  When I had a few good days in a row I would trigger a panic attack so that I could grit my way through it and come out of the fire more confident.  I wouldnt necessarily recommend that for others lol
     My anxiety presented as Acute Panic Disorder after a very bad trip.  I was constantly afraid of having panic attacks at bad times, like driving or in front of people I wanted to respect me.  
    Anyways, it takes constant and diligent work to redirect your mind when it goes astray, and I really believe that the work required doesn't come naturally.  No matter how painful depression and anxiety are, we ALL have this disgusting tendancy to wallow in bad feelings even when we have reason to leave them behind.  Poe called such self-destructive struggles the Imp of the Perverse in a brilliant short story.

    Lastexitlondon, if I were in your position, I would say that my only option is to ruthlessly attack the health anxiety by constantly reminding yourself that you passed the dementia test perfectly and that your symptoms are psychosomatic and invented/exaggerated by your Imp of the Perverse.
    Not saying that is a fact, just that it's the attitude I would adopt until the doctors find otherwise or you conquer it.
    Good luck bud!
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 18,022
    rgambs said:
    All other posts aside, on the topic of working to beat anxiety...
    It does take work, and I haven't seen many (any?) posts about Cognitive Behavioural Therapy.  It's really the only solution to anxiety.  Drugs, clean living, exercise, etc those are stopgap measures that ameliorate symptoms, but they don't address the source.
    My time dealing with anxiety was intense but only lasted a few months.  During that time I researched CBT relentlessly and devised my own personal system of rerouting bad thoughts, confronting triggers, and ruthlessly attacking the anxiety like it was an external foe.  When I had a few good days in a row I would trigger a panic attack so that I could grit my way through it and come out of the fire more confident.  I wouldnt necessarily recommend that for others lol
     My anxiety presented as Acute Panic Disorder after a very bad trip.  I was constantly afraid of having panic attacks at bad times, like driving or in front of people I wanted to respect me.  
    Anyways, it takes constant and diligent work to redirect your mind when it goes astray, and I really believe that the work required doesn't come naturally.  No matter how painful depression and anxiety are, we ALL have this disgusting tendancy to wallow in bad feelings even when we have reason to leave them behind.  Poe called such self-destructive struggles the Imp of the Perverse in a brilliant short story.

    Lastexitlondon, if I were in your position, I would say that my only option is to ruthlessly attack the health anxiety by constantly reminding yourself that you passed the dementia test perfectly and that your symptoms are psychosomatic and invented/exaggerated by your Imp of the Perverse.
    Not saying that is a fact, just that it's the attitude I would adopt until the doctors find otherwise or you conquer it.
    Good luck bud!
    very intelligent post. wish I was as strong as you gambs. 
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 4,090
    Great post indeed. Ive been to cbt. And am again going . I went today. 
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 11,866
    It was acute, much easier to deal with than chronic.  I was strong, but strength without stamina isn't so impressive.  
    I had never dealt with any level of anxiety, I literally didn't really understand the meaning of the word.  When I had my first panic attack it hit me like a 50 ft wave and I had zero coping skills, so I had a couple really shitty weeks.  I thought I would need to check myself into a hospital, I lost 20 lbs in a month, etc etc...  4 months after my first, I had my last.  I still get close occasionally if I get too high, but I go back to my breathing exercises and squash that horrible feeling of panic rising from the gut into the throat.
    Overall, my anxiety story isn't one that's inspirational, but I do feel like it's a rather pedestrian lesson in learning coping skills and attacking weaknesses head on.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 11,866
    Great post indeed. Ive been to cbt. And am again going . I went today. 
    Excellent, if you are diligent with your "homework", I have to believe you are on the right path.
    Changing the way you rhink is probably the very hardest thing you can do, but it can be done.  In your case, must be done.
    You know how much you have to live for, you don't need anyone reminding you of that, but occasionally you need someone to tell you that you CAN do it.  It's a motherfucking bitch, of course, but in my best (horrible) Michael Caine accent, "Why do we fall down?  So we can learn to get back up."
    Or something like that lol
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 11,866
    Also, "Some men just want to watch the world burn." 
    Just because.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 18,022
    today is a bad day. 
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 4,090
    Whats happening hfd
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