John McCain

mcgruff10

JC29856 said:

A self admitting carpet bombing war criminal. I'm so glad McCain bombed villages and lightbulb factories for my freedoms. 

60 MINUTES

WALLACE: (Voiceover) People who know McCain well say he can hold a grudge. He also has a legendary temper. But if McCain can be hard on his friends and even harder on his enemies, he can also be very hard on himself.

Sen. McCAIN: I m--made serious, serious mistakes and did things wrong when I was in prison, OK?

WALLACE: What did you do wrong in prison?

Sen. McCAIN: I wrote a confession. I was guilty of war crimes against the Vietnamese people. I intentionally bombed women and children.

WALLACE: And you did it because you were being tortured...

Sen. McCAIN: I...

WALLACE: ...and you'd reached the end of the line.

Sen. McCAIN: Yes. But I should have gone further. I should have--I--I never believed that I would--that I would break, and I did.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/make-believe-maverick-20081016

https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/20/the-horrors-of-john-mccain-war-hero-or-war-criminal/

How much carpet bombing can you do with an A-4?  I mean if he was piloting a B-52 I could see your point kind of...well not really.  It's an order bud, from your superiors..  it's not like he could have said no.  
McCain said: "The target list was so restricted that we had to go back and hit the same targets over and over again... Most of our pilots flying the missions believed that our targets were virtually worthless. In all candor, we thought our civilian commanders were complete idiots who didn't have the least notion of what it took to win the war."

Meltdown99

Has America been on the winning side of a conflict since WW2 ... I mean, you guys should be the best at war ... you've had enough practice.

Not to mention a 700 billion military budget?  You quite literally suck at it ...

JC29856

Meltdown99 said:

Has America been on the winning side of a conflict since WW2 ... I mean, you guys should be the best at war ... you've had enough practice.

Not to mention a 700 billion military budget?  You quite literally suck at it ...

Since WW2 "wars" aren't supposed to be won.

Meltdown99

JC29856 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Has America been on the winning side of a conflict since WW2 ... I mean, you guys should be the best at war ... you've had enough practice.

Not to mention a 700 billion military budget?  You quite literally suck at it ...

Since WW2 "wars" aren't supposed to be won.

Oh I see.  That's the problem.  Like the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan ... 18 year war... 

dignin

White House Releases Moving Statement Honoring Woman Who Called Obama An Arab In 2008

WASHINGTON—In a timely tribute to a woman they are calling a fearless American hero, the White House released a statement Monday recognizing and honoring the woman who called then-presidential candidate Barack Obama an Arab during a town hall event in 2008. “It is with great reverence that we celebrate the courage, life, and work of the woman who told John McCain at a 2008 campaign rally that she couldn’t trust Barack Obama because he was an Arab,” the statement read in part. “Despite the fact that it would have been far easier for her to hold her tongue and remain silent, she bravely stood up for her country and called Obama out for being a foreigner, and in doing so, she truly earned the title of ‘maverick.’ A ruthless defender of patriotism who refused to cower during her shining moment on the national stage, she courageously focused national attention on Obama’s Muslim pedigree. From the bottom of our hearts, we thank you for your service, ma’am.” The statement concluded by saying that her brave and inspiring comments would live on in this country for generations to come.

https://politics.theonion.com/white-house-releases-moving-statement-honoring-woman-wh-1828630290

vaggar99

i've never been told not to attend someone's funeral, but i've got to imagine being told that comes with a strong sense of humility.

josevolution

dignin said:

White House Releases Moving Statement Honoring Woman Who Called Obama An Arab In 2008

WASHINGTON—In a timely tribute to a woman they are calling a fearless American hero, the White House released a statement Monday recognizing and honoring the woman who called then-presidential candidate Barack Obama an Arab during a town hall event in 2008. “It is with great reverence that we celebrate the courage, life, and work of the woman who told John McCain at a 2008 campaign rally that she couldn’t trust Barack Obama because he was an Arab,” the statement read in part. “Despite the fact that it would have been far easier for her to hold her tongue and remain silent, she bravely stood up for her country and called Obama out for being a foreigner, and in doing so, she truly earned the title of ‘maverick.’ A ruthless defender of patriotism who refused to cower during her shining moment on the national stage, she courageously focused national attention on Obama’s Muslim pedigree. From the bottom of our hearts, we thank you for your service, ma’am.” The statement concluded by saying that her brave and inspiring comments would live on in this country for generations to come.

https://politics.theonion.com/white-house-releases-moving-statement-honoring-woman-wh-1828630290

Oh my what a garbage filled moronic WH & President we have on our hands this man should have the following words attached to his name for ever , Disgusting , Despicable , Dick ....The old racist woman is also a peice of shit ...

cincybearcat

It was an Onion article 

mcgruff10

Meltdown99 said:

Has America been on the winning side of a conflict since WW2 ... I mean, you guys should be the best at war ... you've had enough practice.

Not to mention a 700 billion military budget?  You quite literally suck at it ...

Kuwait/Iraq 1991? We didn’t lose in korea. Hell you could say we technically didn’t lose Vietnam since we pulled out in 1973.  Iraq 2003? Panama? Grenada? 
The Cold War? Bosnia and Kosovo? Somalia?

OnWis97

vaggar99 said:

i've never been told not to attend someone's funeral, but i've got to imagine being told that comes with a strong sense of humility.

But it's probably lost on anyone that would do anything to get un-invited to a funeral.

vaggar99

OnWis97 said:

vaggar99 said:

i've never been told not to attend someone's funeral, but i've got to imagine being told that comes with a strong sense of humility.

But it's probably lost on anyone that would do anything to get un-invited to a funeral.

probably so.  i'd imagine he's got to be at least jealous that Obama and Pence are going.

josevolution

cincybearcat said:

It was an Onion article 

damn not paying attention today i've been duped oh well but i wouldn't put this past them at all , after all the flag was only at half staff for like three hrs , McCain didn't see the moon for three yrs while in captivity damn ...

jeffbr

vaggar99 said:

OnWis97 said:

vaggar99 said:

i've never been told not to attend someone's funeral, but i've got to imagine being told that comes with a strong sense of humility.

But it's probably lost on anyone that would do anything to get un-invited to a funeral.

probably so.  i'd imagine he's got to be at least jealous that Obama and Pence are going.

Obama has been asked by the family to give a eulogy. That should really piss off that orange birther.

Meltdown99

josevolution said:

cincybearcat said:

It was an Onion article 

damn not paying attention today i've been duped oh well but i wouldn't put this past them at all , after all the flag was only at half staff for like three hrs , McCain didn't see the moon for three yrs while in captivity damn ...

3 hours are you sure?  I read they followed the correct protocol?

mcgruff10

josevolution said:

cincybearcat said:

It was an Onion article 

damn not paying attention today i've been duped oh well but i wouldn't put this past them at all , after all the flag was only at half staff for like three hrs , McCain didn't see the moon for three yrs while in captivity damn ...

WHat does it say about your character when you are offered to be set free after months of being tortured and you say no because you don’t want Guys to Be left behind. 

Meltdown99

White House Returns Flag to Half-Staff for John McCain, as the Senator Gets a Last Word





https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/27/us/politics/flag-half-staff-mccain-trump.html

It's lowered.

Protocol was followed ... but people are pretty delicate these days...

Flags at half-staff: What are the guidelines and precedents to follow?

https://abc7news.com/politics/flags-at-half-staff-what-are-the-guidelines/4067918/

As McCain was a U.S. senator, the proclamation instructs that flags be lowered on the day of his death and the day after. McCain passed away on Saturday, and the White House reportedly raised the flags back right around midnight overnight as Sunday ended, which would be the minimum amount of time as outlined by Eisenhower's proclamation.

But you know this war hero/monger should get special treatment...

unsung

It is odd watching the left defend him politically.

unsung

Meltdown99 said:

Has America been on the winning side of a conflict since WW2 ... I mean, you guys should be the best at war ... you've had enough practice.

Not to mention a 700 billion military budget?  You quite literally suck at it ...

Who really wins in war though?

The better question is when is the last time America fought in a war that actually defended the freedoms of Americans?

mcgruff10

unsung said:

Meltdown99 said:

Has America been on the winning side of a conflict since WW2 ... I mean, you guys should be the best at war ... you've had enough practice.

Not to mention a 700 billion military budget?  You quite literally suck at it ...

Who really wins in war though?

The better question is when is the last time America fought in a war that actually defended the freedoms of Americans?

Good question. I would say Afghanistan in response to 9/11.  If we didn't attack who knows what else those guys could have planned.  

brianlux

unsung said:

It is odd watching the left defend him politically.

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