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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:l
    McCain was so crazed about killing, he killed even by accident!

    https://prepareforchange.net/2017/09/11/navy-releases-mccains-records-mccain-was-personally-responsible-for-the-deadliest-fire-in-the-history-of-the-us-navy/

    McCain was personally responsible for the deadliest fire in the history of the US Navy. That catastrophe, with 27 dead and over 100 wounded

    man, you post a lot of questionable shit. 
    Thanks.
    I'll throw in something from Tapper, he got his start by being a fanboy. 
    Did we soon forget the Keating 5? Or did I post that already?

  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:l
    McCain was so crazed about killing, he killed even by accident!

    https://prepareforchange.net/2017/09/11/navy-releases-mccains-records-mccain-was-personally-responsible-for-the-deadliest-fire-in-the-history-of-the-us-navy/

    McCain was personally responsible for the deadliest fire in the history of the US Navy. That catastrophe, with 27 dead and over 100 wounded

    man, you post a lot of questionable shit. 
    Thanks.
    I'll throw in something from Tapper, he got his start by being a fanboy. 
    Did we soon forget the Keating 5? Or did I post that already?

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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:l
    McCain was so crazed about killing, he killed even by accident!

    https://prepareforchange.net/2017/09/11/navy-releases-mccains-records-mccain-was-personally-responsible-for-the-deadliest-fire-in-the-history-of-the-us-navy/

    McCain was personally responsible for the deadliest fire in the history of the US Navy. That catastrophe, with 27 dead and over 100 wounded

    man, you post a lot of questionable shit. 
    Thanks.
    I'll throw in something from Tapper, he got his start by being a fanboy. 
    Did we soon forget the Keating 5? Or did I post that already?

    William Browder

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    Mossack Fonseca

    Robert Otto

    Bernie Sucher

    Steven Dashevsky

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    Kalmykia

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    Kameya

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    David Kramer

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    Team Mueller


    Oh boy...
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    McCain hated Trump, and Trump hates McCain. I don't understand why anyone expects or even wants Trump to do anything. To me, it would be more respectful for him to keep his trap shut completely. Instead, everyone's forced a completely fucking insincere statement out of him.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    PJ_Soul said:
    McCain hated Trump, and Trump hates McCain. I don't understand why anyone expects or even wants Trump to do anything. To me, it would be more respectful for him to keep his trap shut completely. Instead, everyone's forced a completely fucking insincere statement out of him.
    because even your adversaries are to be respected in death in a professional manner. he can say what he wants behind closed doors, but in public, as a head of state, he should be respectful. 

    no one expects Trump to be an adult, but it's normal to want him to be. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited August 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    McCain hated Trump, and Trump hates McCain. I don't understand why anyone expects or even wants Trump to do anything. To me, it would be more respectful for him to keep his trap shut completely. Instead, everyone's forced a completely fucking insincere statement out of him.
    because even your adversaries are to be respected in death in a professional manner. he can say what he wants behind closed doors, but in public, as a head of state, he should be respectful. 

    no one expects Trump to be an adult, but it's normal to want him to be. 
    Well it's not like he spat on his corpse or anything. He sent a tweet, lowered a flag for 2 days... for someone who considered himself McCain's enemy, and someone who McCain obviously hated, I think enough was done in a professional manner. It only really got unprofessional when people started hounding Trump about it. I personally found it gross to watch Trump stand up and say a bunch of shit he doesn't believe, knowing he was forced to it just to shut people up. I think that is totally disrespectful to McCain's memory (not that I'm concerned about McCain's memory.... I'm patiently waiting for the pearl clutching to end).
    And flipping out about "only" 2 days of a lowered flag... I think it's a bunch of silliness.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,643
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:l
    McCain was so crazed about killing, he killed even by accident!

    https://prepareforchange.net/2017/09/11/navy-releases-mccains-records-mccain-was-personally-responsible-for-the-deadliest-fire-in-the-history-of-the-us-navy/

    McCain was personally responsible for the deadliest fire in the history of the US Navy. That catastrophe, with 27 dead and over 100 wounded

    man, you post a lot of questionable shit. 
    Thanks.
    I'll throw in something from Tapper, he got his start by being a fanboy. 
    Did we soon forget the Keating 5? Or did I post that already?

    William Browder

    Sergi Magnitsky

    Hermitage Capital

    Natalia Veselnitskaya

    Jared Kushner

    Paul Manafort

    Michael Cohen

    Alexander Pereepilichny

    Michael McFaul

    Heather Nauert

    Mossack Fonseca

    Robert Otto

    Bernie Sucher

    Steven Dashevsky

    Gazprom

    Kalmykia

    Yukos Oil

    Mikhail Khodorkovsky

    Celeste Wallander

    Kameya

    Benjimin Cardin

    David Kramer

    Stephen Sestanovich

    Daniel Fried

    Michael Carpenter

    Boris Nemstov

    Prevezon

    Denis Katsyv

    Pyotr Katsyv

    Baker-Hostetler

    Yuri Chaika

    Ziff Brothers

    Preet Bharara

    Rinat Akhmetshin

    Dana Rohrabacher

    Aras Agalarov

    Donald Trump, Jr.

    Emin Agalarov

    Robert Goldstone

    Hillary Clinton

    Steven Hall

    Sergi Skripal

    Vladimir Kara-Murza

     

    Team Mueller


    Oh boy...
    "Manhatten real estate." I wonder who's heavily vested in Manhatten real estate? Hmmmmmmm, maybe our resident road kill skolar can help us out? If he can get the stamps off their finger tips and onto the poster tube, that is?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    McCain hated Trump, and Trump hates McCain. I don't understand why anyone expects or even wants Trump to do anything. To me, it would be more respectful for him to keep his trap shut completely. Instead, everyone's forced a completely fucking insincere statement out of him.
    because even your adversaries are to be respected in death in a professional manner. he can say what he wants behind closed doors, but in public, as a head of state, he should be respectful. 

    no one expects Trump to be an adult, but it's normal to want him to be. 
    Well I personally found it gross to watch Trump stand up and say a bunch of shit he doesn't believe, knowing he was forced to it just to shut people up. I think that is totally disrespectful to McCain's memory (not that I'm concerned about McCain's memory.... I'm patiently waiting for the pearl clutching to end).
    I didn't see it, nor will I. You're right in that everyone can see through it so plainly it is painfully obvious it's completely fabricated. he really is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't here. But it's of his own doing and how he conducts himself on a tweet to tweet basis. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited August 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    McCain hated Trump, and Trump hates McCain. I don't understand why anyone expects or even wants Trump to do anything. To me, it would be more respectful for him to keep his trap shut completely. Instead, everyone's forced a completely fucking insincere statement out of him.
    because even your adversaries are to be respected in death in a professional manner. he can say what he wants behind closed doors, but in public, as a head of state, he should be respectful. 

    no one expects Trump to be an adult, but it's normal to want him to be. 
    Well I personally found it gross to watch Trump stand up and say a bunch of shit he doesn't believe, knowing he was forced to it just to shut people up. I think that is totally disrespectful to McCain's memory (not that I'm concerned about McCain's memory.... I'm patiently waiting for the pearl clutching to end).
    I didn't see it, nor will I. You're right in that everyone can see through it so plainly it is painfully obvious it's completely fabricated. he really is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't here. But it's of his own doing and how he conducts himself on a tweet to tweet basis. 
    Sure, but he didn't actually do anything untoward when it came to McCain's death in the first place. He posted a condolences tweet, he had the WH flag lowered for the officially recommended time. That was enough from someone who McCain preemptively banned from his own funeral IMO, lol. Frankly, for once I think Trump got it right (until forced to make it bad) and everyone else got it wrong in their reaction/expectations.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    PJ_Soul said:
    McCain hated Trump, and Trump hates McCain. I don't understand why anyone expects or even wants Trump to do anything. To me, it would be more respectful for him to keep his trap shut completely. Instead, everyone's forced a completely fucking insincere statement out of him.
    because even your adversaries are to be respected in death in a professional manner. he can say what he wants behind closed doors, but in public, as a head of state, he should be respectful. 

    no one expects Trump to be an adult, but it's normal to want him to be. 
    Might have something to do with McCain's involvement with the dossier and the seriousness of actual "treason". 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,783
    JC29856 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    McCain hated Trump, and Trump hates McCain. I don't understand why anyone expects or even wants Trump to do anything. To me, it would be more respectful for him to keep his trap shut completely. Instead, everyone's forced a completely fucking insincere statement out of him.
    because even your adversaries are to be respected in death in a professional manner. he can say what he wants behind closed doors, but in public, as a head of state, he should be respectful. 

    no one expects Trump to be an adult, but it's normal to want him to be. 
    Might have something to do with McCain's involvement with the dossier and the seriousness of actual "treason". 
    laughable or maybe he hated the baffoon for being a Russian puppet ..
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    McCain hated Trump, and Trump hates McCain. I don't understand why anyone expects or even wants Trump to do anything. To me, it would be more respectful for him to keep his trap shut completely. Instead, everyone's forced a completely fucking insincere statement out of him.
    because even your adversaries are to be respected in death in a professional manner. he can say what he wants behind closed doors, but in public, as a head of state, he should be respectful. 

    no one expects Trump to be an adult, but it's normal to want him to be. 
    Well I personally found it gross to watch Trump stand up and say a bunch of shit he doesn't believe, knowing he was forced to it just to shut people up. I think that is totally disrespectful to McCain's memory (not that I'm concerned about McCain's memory.... I'm patiently waiting for the pearl clutching to end).
    I didn't see it, nor will I. You're right in that everyone can see through it so plainly it is painfully obvious it's completely fabricated. he really is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't here. But it's of his own doing and how he conducts himself on a tweet to tweet basis. 
    Sure, but he didn't actually do anything untoward when it came to McCain's death in the first place. He posted a condolences tweet, he had the WH flag lowered for the officially recommended time. That was enough from someone who McCain preemptively banned from his own funeral IMO, lol. Frankly, for once I think Trump got it right (until forced to make it bad) and everyone else got it wrong in their reaction/expectations.
    he offered his respect to McCain's family, while saying nothing about McCain himself. that was not enough. not for a sitting senator. not for a pow. not for a veteran. 
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  • Meltdown99
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    If Trump and McCain were best buddies everyone of you predictable people would be calling McCain out ... quit being fucking hypocrites.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    If Trump and McCain were best buddies everyone of you predictable people would be calling McCain out ... quit being fucking hypocrites.
    jesus christ. 
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  • tbergs
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    If Trump and McCain were best buddies everyone of you predictable people would be calling McCain out ... quit being fucking hypocrites.
    jesus christ. 
    What? When Trump dies, are people here going to say we need to honor him just because he was a president? Are we now going to be sad and remorseful when Bush and his minions start dying? I think what we should really be doing is analyzing the criteria for when someone who dies receives certain honors based on a lifetime of supporting wars, racism, divisiveness and the like. Maybe McCain balanced the scales in the end, maybe he didn't. He died, he was honored and that's it. If Trump wanted to make a statement it should have been real. You can pay respects without pandering.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    tbergs said:
    If Trump and McCain were best buddies everyone of you predictable people would be calling McCain out ... quit being fucking hypocrites.
    jesus christ. 
    What? When Trump dies, are people here going to say we need to honor him just because he was a president? Are we now going to be sad and remorseful when Bush and his minions start dying? I think what we should really be doing is analyzing the criteria for when someone who dies receives certain honors based on a lifetime of supporting wars, racism, divisiveness and the like. Maybe McCain balanced the scales in the end, maybe he didn't. He died, he was honored and that's it. If Trump wanted to make a statement it should have been real. You can pay respects without pandering.
    I am the type of person that finds eulogies and obituaries to only be half the story. They have always bothered me, just for that fact. I want to write my own, so i can tell the real story of how much of an asshole I could sometimes be. 

    Everyone knows no one is a saint. 

    But the office of the president is different than just any other eulogy or statement of respect being paid. Does mccain deserve to have some special monument in his honour? I don't know and I don't care. All I'm saying is that trump is acting like a child with this behaviour. Like I said, I'm not surprised, but that doesn't take away from how pathetic it is. 
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Welll written, shows the ever changing media narrative of McCain 00 to McCain 08 to McCain 16. Interesting

    https://medium.com/@mtracey/john-mccain-was-not-an-anecdote-2b1b4dcc4dd