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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,641
    JC29856 said:
    Who was more dead wrong (no pun) in this "interview" about Iraq, Hannity or McCain?
    It's difficult to be more dead wrong than Hannity! 
    Thoughts?

    https://youtu.be/VFNiad6US5U
    "more dead wrong". Isn't "dead wrong" an absolute, as in you can't be "more" wrong than dead wrong.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mace1229 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    No mandated universal system; no mandated insurance coverage

    McCain says he thinks affordable health care can be made available to all Americans without a mandated universal system. McCain said that he doesn’t think government-run systems such as those in Canada and in Europe will succeed in the US. “I think it’s a warmed-over proposal that we rejected back in the early 1990s and I’m certainly not interested in raising people’s taxes,” McCain said, adding he also is opposed to requiring everyone to buy health insurance coverage. “We’ve got to make health care affordable and available. There’s plenty of ways to do that.“
    He said he’s been working on a plan ”for a long time“ but ”it’s a very tough issue.“ One way, he said, would be to expand community health centers and the S-CHIP program, offer tax incentives for poor people, put health care online, medical malpractice reform and promote health savings accounts. However, he said, one problem getting everyone covered ”is there’s a lot of healthy Americans that say I just don’t want health insurance.
    Source: United Press International, “McCain sees room” , Jun 10, 2006
    This man had universal coverage paid for by YOU.  And he doesn't think YOU should have universal coverage.  
    Isn’t that every politician?
    You must really hate Obama then. I mean, he gets full health care and makes healthy people pay more.
    Okay, so you don’t like the man. Let him die in peace.
    I don't like any politician ... including Obama ... politicians are leeches.  In Canada most politicians have the same health care as I do There are exceptions, but they are few and far between)...
    That’s fair. It is annoying when the people that make and write the laws write themselves great pensions and health care while they’re at it.
    That is a also a good point about pensions and salaries.  I'm not a huge fan of the pensions politicians have given themselves.  As for the healthcare, other than the PM and maybe some cabinet ministers ... I'm quite confidant that my MP will wait in the ER just like I have to if I ever have to go...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Pure in all his thoughts...peace activists and code pink are low life scum for protesting the war criminal Kissinger.

    https://youtu.be/yP9In2fNs84
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I noticed GWB had nice comments ... war mongers must stick together...

    By the way, nice comments from Bush should mean nothing more than if Manson had something nice to say ... both evil, 1 gets the protection of the presidency to conduct his evil shit on people...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited August 2018
    JC29856 said:
    Pure in all his thoughts...peace activists and code pink are low life scum for protesting the war criminal Kissinger.

    https://youtu.be/yP9In2fNs84
    I'm missing something.

    Edit:  No I'm not.  Good for the protestors.

    Post edited by unsung on
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    None of know John McCain on a personal level, and therefore have no right to speak of him on that level.

    What we know is his public life, and his actions that he took as Senator.

    So we have the right to criticize everything he did at that capacity, and now the timing is more important than ever.  He doesn't get a pass or a grace period for the criticism not to be given because right now everyone is telling us how he was a hero, and he couldn't have been further from that.  We can't allow a false narrative to be written.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,641

    WaPo: Trump rejected plans for White House statement praising McCain


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBXyXu60Mg8
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,641
    unsung said:
    None of know John McCain on a personal level, and therefore have no right to speak of him on that level.

    What we know is his public life, and his actions that he took as Senator.

    So we have the right to criticize everything he did at that capacity, and now the timing is more important than ever.  He doesn't get a pass or a grace period for the criticism not to be given because right now everyone is telling us how he was a hero, and he couldn't have been further from that.  We can't allow a false narrative to be written.
    Aren't all your narratives you spew on this board from your little bubble"false narratives"?




    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,047
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    WaPo: Trump rejected plans for White House statement praising McCain


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBXyXu60Mg8
    Not surprised after all he’s a disgusting despicable disgraceful dick lol 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,641

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    unsung said:
    None of know John McCain on a personal level, and therefore have no right to speak of him on that level.

    What we know is his public life, and his actions that he took as Senator.

    So we have the right to criticize everything he did at that capacity, and now the timing is more important than ever.  He doesn't get a pass or a grace period for the criticism not to be given because right now everyone is telling us how he was a hero, and he couldn't have been further from that.  We can't allow a false narrative to be written.


    You think McCains sainthood is bad, wait until Kissinger crokes!
    Only is America are war criminals canonized as war heroes.

    Wasn't it a "gook" that swam at to save McCain from drowning?
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,767
    Heard that Trump is banned from attending McCains funeral.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,641
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Heard that Trump is banned from attending McCains funeral.
    Yes. It's been reported.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Good.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,641
    unsung said:
    Good.
    Don't knock hearing someone just talk about them self during an eulogy before you've tried it.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    This is a good read, I recommend it to all including Obama-boys, Bernie-bros, Trump-tards and Russian sock puppets meddling and influencing democratic elections.

    It's a well written well sourced piece, there is something for everyone, it mentions communists, Nazis, Neo Nazis, Nazi collaboratrs, fascists, anti Semites, Fake tapper, Soros, Ocasio-Cortez, lobbyists, terrorists, evil brutal dictators, jihadists, oligarchs and even sodomy. It has something for everyone, well worth your 5 minutes.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/08/27/the-other-side-of-john-mccain/
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    Rest in peace.
    www.myspace.com
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    RIP John McCain. Didn't agree with much of his politics but he was an American hero, and dedicated his life to serving the country.
    Interesting to see Unsung, CM, Meltdown, JC, Donald Trump and Russia all on the same page on this one, taking shots at a dead guy. Easier than a moving target I guess.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    His politics are always open for scrutiny, see my previous please.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    A self admitting carpet bombing war criminal. I'm so glad McCain bombed villages and lightbulb factories for my freedoms. 

    60 MINUTES

    WALLACE: (Voiceover) People who know McCain well say he can hold a grudge. He also has a legendary temper. But if McCain can be hard on his friends and even harder on his enemies, he can also be very hard on himself.

    Sen. McCAIN: I m--made serious, serious mistakes and did things wrong when I was in prison, OK?

    WALLACE: What did you do wrong in prison?

    Sen. McCAIN: I wrote a confession. I was guilty of war crimes against the Vietnamese people. I intentionally bombed women and children.

    WALLACE: And you did it because you were being tortured...

    Sen. McCAIN: I...

    WALLACE: ...and you'd reached the end of the line.

    Sen. McCAIN: Yes. But I should have gone further. I should have--I--I never believed that I would--that I would break, and I did.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/make-believe-maverick-20081016

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/20/the-horrors-of-john-mccain-war-hero-or-war-criminal/


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