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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,995
    edited October 2018
    unsung said:

    Comrade? Guccifer is that you? Welcome back!
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    unsung said:

    “You live in a society and benefit from roads, schools, the fire department, the recreation centre with swimming pools and gyms and classes, the paramedics, the police department, and even the dog catcher. Maybe even the military, which some people are pretty fond of.  When you get older you’ll get an old age pension. And guess what? Someone has to pay for all of that, and because you’re an adult, you understand that means you pay your share.”

    See how it works?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,995
    oftenreading said:
    unsung said:

    “You live in a society and benefit from roads, schools, the fire department, the recreation centre with swimming pools and gyms and classes, the paramedics, the police department, and even the dog catcher. Maybe even the military, which some people are pretty fond of.  When you get older you’ll get an old age pension. And guess what? Someone has to pay for all of that, and because you’re an adult, you understand that means you pay your share.”

    See how it works?
    “He didn’t build that.”
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    oftenreading said:
    unsung said:

    “You live in a society and benefit from roads, schools, the fire department, the recreation centre with swimming pools and gyms and classes, the paramedics, the police department, and even the dog catcher. Maybe even the military, which some people are pretty fond of.  When you get older you’ll get an old age pension. And guess what? Someone has to pay for all of that, and because you’re an adult, you understand that means you pay your share.”

    See how it works?
    exactly....Jesus Christ I can't believe some people are even able to leave their house
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    oftenreading said:
    unsung said:

    “You live in a society and benefit from roads, schools, the fire department, the recreation centre with swimming pools and gyms and classes, the paramedics, the police department, and even the dog catcher. Maybe even the military, which some people are pretty fond of.  When you get older you’ll get an old age pension. And guess what? Someone has to pay for all of that, and because you’re an adult, you understand that means you pay your share.”

    See how it works?
    An old age pension, funny stuff, it doesn't get much better.


  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    unsung said:
    oftenreading said:
    unsung said:

    “You live in a society and benefit from roads, schools, the fire department, the recreation centre with swimming pools and gyms and classes, the paramedics, the police department, and even the dog catcher. Maybe even the military, which some people are pretty fond of.  When you get older you’ll get an old age pension. And guess what? Someone has to pay for all of that, and because you’re an adult, you understand that means you pay your share.”

    See how it works?
    An old age pension, funny stuff, it doesn't get much better.



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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    unsung said:
    oftenreading said:
    unsung said:

    “You live in a society and benefit from roads, schools, the fire department, the recreation centre with swimming pools and gyms and classes, the paramedics, the police department, and even the dog catcher. Maybe even the military, which some people are pretty fond of.  When you get older you’ll get an old age pension. And guess what? Someone has to pay for all of that, and because you’re an adult, you understand that means you pay your share.”

    See how it works?
    An old age pension, funny stuff, it doesn't get much better.


    So retired military doesn't get a pension? Try again.   
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I’m not retired military.  Try again.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    unsung said:
    I’m not retired military.  Try again.
    So if the tax doesn't benefit you directly,  you shouldn't have to pay? As an example,  only retired military should pay for their retirement?  Only people that have called the police should pay for the police?
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Does the military or police pay for my retirement?
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,251

    I'll gladly pay property taxes to fund schools if it keeps those pesky kids in school and off my lawn!




    Get off my damn lawn!

  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I fail to see why their retirements need to be funded by the taxpayers, they did those jobs and received pay and benefits for doing them.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    unsung said:
    Does the military or police pay for my retirement?
    How do you expect the police's or military's salary (not retirement) to be paid without taxes? 
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    The question was on retirement, no?
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,251
    unsung said:
    The question was on retirement, no?
    I think benefits for government employees should be consistent with the average benefits with private companies.  Government needs to compete for talent like everyone else.  Pensions are going away for private companies because in the end they'll crush your business if times ever get bad and are replaced with matching 401k/profit sharing contributions.  I'm all for freezing the pension plans and converting to defined contribution plans for government workers. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    unsung said:
    The question was on retirement, no?
    No, Often Reading brought up many ways where we all benefit from taxes: schools,  roads,  defense,  fire,  etc.  You chose to focus on military benefits because you didn't serve.  So what about the rest?  I mean obviously you're living in a cabin in Montana,  home schooling your kids and driving your ATV to pick up your food source out in your fields.  But what about the rest of the 299.999 million of us?
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    The question was on retirement, no?
    No, Often Reading brought up many ways where we all benefit from taxes: schools,  roads,  defense,  fire,  etc.  You chose to focus on military benefits because you didn't serve.  So what about the rest?  I mean obviously you're living in a cabin in Montana,  home schooling your kids and driving your ATV to pick up your food source out in your fields.  But what about the rest of the 299.999 million of us?
    Based on his post you don’t feel we are overtaxed?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    oftenreading said:
    unsung said:

    “You live in a society and benefit from roads, schools, the fire department, the recreation centre with swimming pools and gyms and classes, the paramedics, the police department, and even the dog catcher. Maybe even the military, which some people are pretty fond of.  When you get older you’ll get an old age pension. And guess what? Someone has to pay for all of that, and because you’re an adult, you understand that means you pay your share.”

    See how it works?
    An old age pension, funny stuff, it doesn't get much better.


    So retired military doesn't get a pension? Try again.   
    I guess this was my imagination that this was asked.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    The question was on retirement, no?
    No, Often Reading brought up many ways where we all benefit from taxes: schools,  roads,  defense,  fire,  etc.  You chose to focus on military benefits because you didn't serve.  So what about the rest?  I mean obviously you're living in a cabin in Montana,  home schooling your kids and driving your ATV to pick up your food source out in your fields.  But what about the rest of the 299.999 million of us?
    You are not my responsibility, just like I am not yours.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    unsung said:
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    The question was on retirement, no?
    No, Often Reading brought up many ways where we all benefit from taxes: schools,  roads,  defense,  fire,  etc.  You chose to focus on military benefits because you didn't serve.  So what about the rest?  I mean obviously you're living in a cabin in Montana,  home schooling your kids and driving your ATV to pick up your food source out in your fields.  But what about the rest of the 299.999 million of us?
    You are not my responsibility, just like I am not yours.  
    Because the individualistic society was so effective in ancient times through the middle ages.  Read a book. Learn from the past. 

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