Donald Trump

PJ_Soul

Well yeah, the reason one party is pointing the finger at the other in terms of racism is because the Republican party is the one that actually manages to roll racism into policy. That seems fair to me.... I mean come on man. Surely you know that more racists in government are Republican, and that the majority of and the worst racists are Republican/conservative. I don't think anyone can reasonably deny that, especially not now, when the WH is stuffed full of them. That doesn't mean every Republican is racist or that no democrat is racist - anyone who thinks that is just an idiot, so it probably doesn't matter what they say anyhow.

brianlux

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Man I gotta say this move was just fucking stupid.  Yeah, I support trump, but I also support decency and using ones brain.  I am all for shooting from the hip and straight talk and telling it like it is but this was just a dumbass comment.  The dude always takes a step forward and then two back.  Know your audience trump, you’re trying to make a deal and you bust out with shithole country comments.  Jesus what a dumbass.

Why do you support Team Trump Treason, with all that we know about him, his behavior, his comments, etc?

I like his plans.  Not how he’s going about them obviously, but I support the wall and feel folks who want to be here should attempt to become citizens and assimilate.

I also like the drop in corporate tax rate seeing as I have a corporation.

I love how he’s an outsider and claimed he wanted to drain the swamp.  I don’t think he’s done it, believe me, and the staff he’s brought in has hurt him more than helped him, but DC is full of trash who are lifers in positions that were never meant to be.  i like the fact that they’re all squirming in their seats because he’s there.  They should never be complacent, and I think he’s got the right idea with shaking them up.

like I said before I was liberal and voted dem for a long time but it was always smoke in mirrors with them, a lot of empty promises with nothing to show for it.  I was really turned off by how the party and it’s followers (my brother is a huge dem, rabid on fb) were constantly name calling and harassing people who thought differently than they did.  Calling folks racist who were clearly not, throwing out super ugly claims at folks who just believed something differently than them.  I fully believe that if you don’t agree with someone you learn to appreciate their views, rather than forcing yours on them.  I’m not religious because I think it’s stupid and the forcing ones religion on another is as dumb as it comes, so
why are dems who are anti religion trying to do exactly that and force their opinions on someone else just like those they hate? Just sent me packing basically, I was ashamed pretty much by how all my dem friends were acting online.

Are you aware of how horribly bad such a wall would be for wildlife--  what the long-term devastating consequences for ecological balance along the US/Mexican border would be? 

Please take a few minutes to at least browse this article:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-rsquo-s-wall-may-threaten-thousands-of-plant-and-animal-species-on-the-u-s-mexico-border/

PJ_Soul

That is definitely the worst thing about the wall idea Brian. Hell, if there could be a wall without there being a wall, something that didn't destroy the environment and endanger animals (and screw over so many people who have property there and didn't cost so many tens of billions of dollars.. if it doesn't go over $100 Billion I'll be fucking shocked, and that's just to get it built. Never mind all the billions it would cost to maintain it and police it), then I wouldn't mind a wall, lol. Unfortunately, this wall is an affront to common decency and mother nature ..... Of course, no sign of the wall yet. It might not even get off the ground. Trump will be lucky to even start that project before his term's up, and whoever replaces him is likely to axe it.
You know, I understand wanting to keep people from just walking across the border. That is just common sense that you don't want that. Democrats don't want that either. However, some problems don't have a simple solution like a big ass fucking wall, for good reasons. This is one of those problems.

rgambs

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Man I gotta say this move was just fucking stupid.  Yeah, I support trump, but I also support decency and using ones brain.  I am all for shooting from the hip and straight talk and telling it like it is but this was just a dumbass comment.  The dude always takes a step forward and then two back.  Know your audience trump, you’re trying to make a deal and you bust out with shithole country comments.  Jesus what a dumbass.

Why do you support Team Trump Treason, with all that we know about him, his behavior, his comments, etc?

I like his plans.  Not how he’s going about them obviously, but I support the wall and feel folks who want to be here should attempt to become citizens and assimilate.

I also like the drop in corporate tax rate seeing as I have a corporation.

I love how he’s an outsider and claimed he wanted to drain the swamp.  I don’t think he’s done it, believe me, and the staff he’s brought in has hurt him more than helped him, but DC is full of trash who are lifers in positions that were never meant to be.  i like the fact that they’re all squirming in their seats because he’s there.  They should never be complacent, and I think he’s got the right idea with shaking them up.

like I said before I was liberal and voted dem for a long time but it was always smoke in mirrors with them, a lot of empty promises with nothing to show for it.  I was really turned off by how the party and it’s followers (my brother is a huge dem, rabid on fb) were constantly name calling and harassing people who thought differently than they did.  Calling folks racist who were clearly not, throwing out super ugly claims at folks who just believed something differently than them.  I fully believe that if you don’t agree with someone you learn to appreciate their views, rather than forcing yours on them.  I’m not religious because I think it’s stupid and the forcing ones religion on another is as dumb as it comes, so
why are dems who are anti religion trying to do exactly that and force their opinions on someone else just like those they hate? Just sent me packing basically, I was ashamed pretty much by how all my dem friends were acting online.

How are you fairing on deductions?  We haven't met with our accountant yet but I'm hearing we will loss practically all of them.

RoleModelsinBlood31

In response to the environmental problems with the wall, I totally agree and that is a definite negative effect.   Every change has an effect. The beauty of wildlife is that it adapts.  Some bad shit is sure to happen, but the benefits massively outweigh the bad.  So much bad shit comes through that border and hits us here in Texas it’s just horrible.  Like fucking 30 foot trucks full of cooked bodies that were never let out because the traffickers who charged them 10k to come over left them and ran.  Tons of shit in the news here all the time it makes you sick to your stomach.  I’m from
NY and have only lived here 10 years but I’ve heard enough horrible shit about the border for a while.  There’s like 30 something countries with border walls, so the idea shouldn’t be a shock or something new to folks, yet everyone is like “what?! A wall?!” Lol, google it and see for yourselves.  

Smellyman

I hope Mexicans don't have boats!

RoleModelsinBlood31

PJ_Soul said:

Well yeah, the reason one party is pointing the finger at the other in terms of racism is because the Republican party is the one that actually manages to roll racism into policy. That seems fair to me.... I mean come on man. Surely you know that more racists in government are Republican, and that the majority of and the worst racists are Republican/conservative. I don't think anyone can reasonably deny that, especially not now, when the WH is stuffed full of them. That doesn't mean every Republican is racist or that no democrat is racist - anyone who thinks that is just an idiot, so it probably doesn't matter what they say anyhow.

Unfortunately I don’t really believe that.  Having been a dem and now on the other side, I don’t think either party espouses racism necessarily, sorry.

PJ_Soul

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Well yeah, the reason one party is pointing the finger at the other in terms of racism is because the Republican party is the one that actually manages to roll racism into policy. That seems fair to me.... I mean come on man. Surely you know that more racists in government are Republican, and that the majority of and the worst racists are Republican/conservative. I don't think anyone can reasonably deny that, especially not now, when the WH is stuffed full of them. That doesn't mean every Republican is racist or that no democrat is racist - anyone who thinks that is just an idiot, so it probably doesn't matter what they say anyhow.

Unfortunately I don’t really believe that.  Having been a dem and now on the other side, I don’t think either party espouses racism necessarily, sorry.

..... Seriously? Even right now?? And even on the State level? I've gotta disagree with you there man. But I agree with the necessarily part. It's not like every Republican policy and every Republican is racist, obviously.

RoleModelsinBlood31

Alright I’m starting to neglect my family now and am getting dirty looks.  Time to drink and smoke a few.  Happy evening y’all 

Go Beavers

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Well yeah, the reason one party is pointing the finger at the other in terms of racism is because the Republican party is the one that actually manages to roll racism into policy. That seems fair to me.... I mean come on man. Surely you know that more racists in government are Republican, and that the majority of and the worst racists are Republican/conservative. I don't think anyone can reasonably deny that, especially not now, when the WH is stuffed full of them. That doesn't mean every Republican is racist or that no democrat is racist - anyone who thinks that is just an idiot, so it probably doesn't matter what they say anyhow.

Unfortunately I don’t really believe that.  Having been a dem and now on the other side, I don’t think either party espouses racism necessarily, sorry.

Racism was built into trump’s campaign and also his policies. 

brianlux

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

In response to the environmental problems with the wall, I totally agree and that is a definite negative effect.   Every change has an effect. The beauty of wildlife is that it adapts.  Some bad shit is sure to happen, but the benefits massively outweigh the bad.  So much bad shit comes through that border and hits us here in Texas it’s just horrible.  Like fucking 30 foot trucks full of cooked bodies that were never let out because the traffickers who charged them 10k to come over left them and ran.  Tons of shit in the news here all the time it makes you sick to your stomach.  I’m from
NY and have only lived here 10 years but I’ve heard enough horrible shit about the border for a while.  There’s like 30 something countries with border walls, so the idea shouldn’t be a shock or something new to folks, yet everyone is like “what?! A wall?!” Lol, google it and see for yourselves.  

Look, I don't want to sit here and berate you RoleModel and I'm guessing you really do care about an appreciate nature but please, take some time to study the basic concepts of ecological sciences.   Like all science, it's a complex subject but the basic concepts are fairly easy to grasp.  Your argument goes against many well understood basics of ecology.

Bentleyspop

When you support trump you support evil

vaggar99

Bentleyspop said:

When you support trump you support evil

now now. we must be careful to stay outside of the liberal bubble.
i think at this point the vast majority of Trump supporters are confused as hell anyway.  Even the sad people of the alt right

josevolution

Bentleyspop said:

When you support trump you support evil

Exactly!!

tempo_n_groove

brianlux said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

In response to the environmental problems with the wall, I totally agree and that is a definite negative effect.   Every change has an effect. The beauty of wildlife is that it adapts.  Some bad shit is sure to happen, but the benefits massively outweigh the bad.  So much bad shit comes through that border and hits us here in Texas it’s just horrible.  Like fucking 30 foot trucks full of cooked bodies that were never let out because the traffickers who charged them 10k to come over left them and ran.  Tons of shit in the news here all the time it makes you sick to your stomach.  I’m from
NY and have only lived here 10 years but I’ve heard enough horrible shit about the border for a while.  There’s like 30 something countries with border walls, so the idea shouldn’t be a shock or something new to folks, yet everyone is like “what?! A wall?!” Lol, google it and see for yourselves.  

Look, I don't want to sit here and berate you RoleModel and I'm guessing you really do care about an appreciate nature but please, take some time to study the basic concepts of ecological sciences.   Like all science, it's a complex subject but the basic concepts are fairly easy to grasp.  Your argument goes against many well understood basics of ecology.

The wall is up and has been up and is still going up.

My friend has been building the wall on and off for the last 7 years.

He's been building it during the Obama years too.

The wall is a joke and we all know it.

unsung

What did he say that was not true?  

So Haiti isn't a shithole?

vaggar99

unsung said:

What did he say that was not true?  

So Haiti isn't a shithole?

in the eye of the beholder.  

unsung

Like Reuters?

mfc2006

unsung said:

What did he say that was not true?  

So Haiti isn't a shithole?

As much as I want to unload on this comment, I will pass.

Jason P

I've been away for over a week and this thread had 1.2K new posts. I have not kept up withe news but Donnie must be on a roll.