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So the only difference between Africa Haiti and Norway is the skin color of the inhabitants? All other things are equal?Bentleyspop said:
This exactlyvaggar99 said:
i guess it depends on whether or not you were willing to allow those same people to move into the nicer neighborhood you live in. Or if instead you follow up by saying, I'd rather only have neighbors of Nordic descent.JC29856 said:
context: my example is used in the context of a discussion about concert venues in a predominantly black lower class neighborhood... racist not racist?vaggar99 said:
context. it was used in the context of a political discussion about immigration.JC29856 said:
I get it but Im trying to understand if using the term sh*thole to reference and undesirable place is being racist.vaggar99 said:
empathy. if you need further assistance with that, watch the Joy Reid clip from yesterday.JC29856 said:
Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
Nobody could have seen this coming.
Ill give you an example: is this racist or not racist
"That PJ setlist was great but I wish they didnt have to play in that sh*thole Camden NJ, I dont feel safe in that sh*thole area"
When you use a derogatory term in relation to African Countries and Haiti and then immediately follow it up with your preference for people from Norway it is definitely RACIST
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Morel risottoJC29856 said:
defending rapistsHalifax2TheMax said:
Read up a little on Team Trump Treason’s public statements regarding the Central Park jogger rape case. Don’t have access to research materials and reference materials pre 2016, comrade?JC29856 said:
I agree with you except for the known racist part... Ive only known him to be racist since early 2016HughFreakingDillon said:
he's a fucking idiot and a terrible president, but that statement in and of itself is not inherently racist. but coming from a known racist, it can most likely be construed that way.JC29856 said:
Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
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just to clarify in case those dont click the closed thread, this is copied to from there from me
Lets talk about the reference "sh*thole" or "sh*t hole" which for the youngsters present and in accordance with forum rules I will refer to hereafter simply as "shole".
There are varying reports about what context Trump used the expression shole, I haven't bothered to read too much into it but there is no doubt those words came from his mouth during a meeting about immigration. The WH hasn't denied it, Trump hasn't denied it and termed the language "harsh", those in the room have confirmed that Trump used the word/phrase "shole countries".
The term shole is undoubtedly a slur a derogatory remark, but is it a racial slur? Was Trump being racist when he referred to predominantly black and brown countries as shole countries. I think the context in which the reference was made is very important, obviously without context the term shole cannot be construed as racial. Lets be honest if we can, many many many people use the word shole. I tend to not use the word but I know it is frequently used by many under and in reference to many many things.
So lets talk about it, is it fair to claim that the use of the word sh*thole when referencing (if that is in fact the case here) predominantly black or brown areas a racial slur?
I don't know if Trump meant it as a racial slur but I tend to think not. Although I don't condone using that term in reference to anything let alone people or places even in private behind closed doors among confidants is appropriate for a POTUS. As I said I dont use the term but it is still derogatory/ugly and shouldn't be used by a president.
This isn't about if or if Trump is not racist, this is about the term and its reference. Any thoughts arise?
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That’s the thing with racism, unless trump was wearing a pointy white robe, minimizers will try to explain it away by trying to point to other reasons.JC29856 said:
So the only difference between Africa Haiti and Norway is the skin color of the inhabitants? All other things are equal?Bentleyspop said:
This exactlyvaggar99 said:
i guess it depends on whether or not you were willing to allow those same people to move into the nicer neighborhood you live in. Or if instead you follow up by saying, I'd rather only have neighbors of Nordic descent.JC29856 said:
context: my example is used in the context of a discussion about concert venues in a predominantly black lower class neighborhood... racist not racist?vaggar99 said:
context. it was used in the context of a political discussion about immigration.JC29856 said:
I get it but Im trying to understand if using the term sh*thole to reference and undesirable place is being racist.vaggar99 said:
empathy. if you need further assistance with that, watch the Joy Reid clip from yesterday.JC29856 said:
Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
Nobody could have seen this coming.
Ill give you an example: is this racist or not racist
"That PJ setlist was great but I wish they didnt have to play in that sh*thole Camden NJ, I dont feel safe in that sh*thole area"
When you use a derogatory term in relation to African Countries and Haiti and then immediately follow it up with your preference for people from Norway it is definitely RACIST0 -
Morel risottoJC29856 said:
defending rapistsHalifax2TheMax said:
Read up a little on Team Trump Treason’s public statements regarding the Central Park jogger rape case. Don’t have access to research materials and reference materials pre 2016, comrade?JC29856 said:
I agree with you except for the known racist part... Ive only known him to be racist since early 2016HughFreakingDillon said:
he's a fucking idiot and a terrible president, but that statement in and of itself is not inherently racist. but coming from a known racist, it can most likely be construed that way.JC29856 said:
Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
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These just since announcing his candidacy. Do some research on his life, his father was in the klan for crying out loud. The Team Trump Treason nut doesn’t fall far from the tree.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trump-racism-remarks-20180111-story.html
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kinda like what others have done when I gave examples...Go Beavers said:
That’s the thing with racism, unless trump was wearing a pointy white robe, minimizers will try to explain it away by trying to point to other reasons.JC29856 said:
So the only difference between Africa Haiti and Norway is the skin color of the inhabitants? All other things are equal?Bentleyspop said:
This exactlyvaggar99 said:
i guess it depends on whether or not you were willing to allow those same people to move into the nicer neighborhood you live in. Or if instead you follow up by saying, I'd rather only have neighbors of Nordic descent.JC29856 said:
context: my example is used in the context of a discussion about concert venues in a predominantly black lower class neighborhood... racist not racist?vaggar99 said:
context. it was used in the context of a political discussion about immigration.JC29856 said:
I get it but Im trying to understand if using the term sh*thole to reference and undesirable place is being racist.vaggar99 said:
empathy. if you need further assistance with that, watch the Joy Reid clip from yesterday.JC29856 said:
Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
Nobody could have seen this coming.
Ill give you an example: is this racist or not racist
"That PJ setlist was great but I wish they didnt have to play in that sh*thole Camden NJ, I dont feel safe in that sh*thole area"
When you use a derogatory term in relation to African Countries and Haiti and then immediately follow it up with your preference for people from Norway it is definitely RACIST
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You mean me? It’s already been broken down for you. trump’s a bigot and ran a campaign based on bigotry that was woven into his immigration plan. The comment he made yesterday was in relation to immigration. You know this, so at this point you’re just playing with us.JC29856 said:
kinda like what others have done when I gave examples...Go Beavers said:
That’s the thing with racism, unless trump was wearing a pointy white robe, minimizers will try to explain it away by trying to point to other reasons.JC29856 said:
So the only difference between Africa Haiti and Norway is the skin color of the inhabitants? All other things are equal?Bentleyspop said:
This exactlyvaggar99 said:
i guess it depends on whether or not you were willing to allow those same people to move into the nicer neighborhood you live in. Or if instead you follow up by saying, I'd rather only have neighbors of Nordic descent.JC29856 said:
context: my example is used in the context of a discussion about concert venues in a predominantly black lower class neighborhood... racist not racist?vaggar99 said:
context. it was used in the context of a political discussion about immigration.JC29856 said:
I get it but Im trying to understand if using the term sh*thole to reference and undesirable place is being racist.vaggar99 said:
empathy. if you need further assistance with that, watch the Joy Reid clip from yesterday.JC29856 said:
Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
Nobody could have seen this coming.
Ill give you an example: is this racist or not racist
"That PJ setlist was great but I wish they didnt have to play in that sh*thole Camden NJ, I dont feel safe in that sh*thole area"
When you use a derogatory term in relation to African Countries and Haiti and then immediately follow it up with your preference for people from Norway it is definitely RACIST0 -
Don’t be distracted.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368620-mueller-interview-fraught-with-peril-for-trump
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He PREACHES racial intolerance and incites ANTI American values. Check video of ANY rally he conducted.
He's an EMBARRASSMENT and should be IMPEACHED.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180 -
Exactly, the local morning news has a segment where viewers can call in and give their thoughts, opinions, etc. One woman called in this morning to say she loves President Trump and likes that he tells it like it is and that he is not afraid to speak his mind. SMH.JimmyV said:Trump's comments yesterday are a textbook example of Trump voters getting exactly what they voted for.0 -
On a rock and roll fan forum, someone using the term "shit hole", regardless of the context, is not likely to cause much offense. The President of the United States of America, using the phrase "shit hole" with obvious malice to describe places beleaguered by poverty and ravaged by hurricanes is unfitting for a person in that office. In fact, at the risk of sounding old fashioned, having the POTUS use the term "shit hole" in public under any circumstance is unfitting for the person in that office, period.
The man is an absolute embarrassment and disgrace to this country. The people who support him are equally disgraceful.
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Thanks Brian for being the voice of reason and explaining it so even a 4 yr old would understand.brianlux said:On a rock and roll fan forum, someone using the term "shit hole", regardless of the context, is not likely to cause much offense. The President of the United States of America, using the phrase "shit hole" with obvious malice to describe places beleaguered by poverty and ravaged by hurricanes is unfitting for a person in that office. In fact, at the risk of sounding old fashioned, having the POTUS use the term "shit hole" in public under any circumstance is unfitting for the person in that office, period.
The man is an absolute embarrassment and disgrace to this country. The people who support him are equally disgraceful.
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another stable genius.stuckinline said:
Exactly, the local morning news has a segment where viewers can call in and give their thoughts, opinions, etc. One woman called in this morning to say she loves President Trump and likes that he tells it like it is and that he is not afraid to speak his mind. SMH.JimmyV said:Trump's comments yesterday are a textbook example of Trump voters getting exactly what they voted for.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
I love Vincente's Twitter account. He is a master Trump troller.dignin said:"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080 -
And the follow up is: trump is a bigot who thinks racist things, then says those racist things, so you’re saying you agree with his racist thoughts and think they are true?stuckinline said:
Exactly, the local morning news has a segment where viewers can call in and give their thoughts, opinions, etc. One woman called in this morning to say she loves President Trump and likes that he tells it like it is and that he is not afraid to speak his mind. SMH.JimmyV said:Trump's comments yesterday are a textbook example of Trump voters getting exactly what they voted for.0 -
You're to the left of me... right.... You realize that there are probably close to a million Americans if not more that are from these countries. And we're all God's creatures as well.JC29856 said:
Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
Nobody could have seen this coming.0 -
You (and other Trump supporters like you) attempt to compartmentalize each Trump statement and encourage people to review them on their own, without context or history. Is calling Haiti a shithole always racist? I don't know, maybe or maybe not. But when you look at the body of Trump remarks from over the years.. then it just simply adds to the mosaic that is his ongoing racist worldview and the "browning" of America.JC29856 said:
kinda like what others have done when I gave examples...Go Beavers said:
That’s the thing with racism, unless trump was wearing a pointy white robe, minimizers will try to explain it away by trying to point to other reasons.JC29856 said:
So the only difference between Africa Haiti and Norway is the skin color of the inhabitants? All other things are equal?Bentleyspop said:
This exactlyvaggar99 said:
i guess it depends on whether or not you were willing to allow those same people to move into the nicer neighborhood you live in. Or if instead you follow up by saying, I'd rather only have neighbors of Nordic descent.JC29856 said:
context: my example is used in the context of a discussion about concert venues in a predominantly black lower class neighborhood... racist not racist?vaggar99 said:
context. it was used in the context of a political discussion about immigration.JC29856 said:
I get it but Im trying to understand if using the term sh*thole to reference and undesirable place is being racist.vaggar99 said:
empathy. if you need further assistance with that, watch the Joy Reid clip from yesterday.JC29856 said:
Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
Nobody could have seen this coming.
Ill give you an example: is this racist or not racist
"That PJ setlist was great but I wish they didnt have to play in that sh*thole Camden NJ, I dont feel safe in that sh*thole area"
When you use a derogatory term in relation to African Countries and Haiti and then immediately follow it up with your preference for people from Norway it is definitely RACIST0
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