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  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623
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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    Tiki said:
    As long as he's NOT down here in Palm Beach making life miserable for us NOT so rich folks. Then again most if not ALL of his wealthy buddies are out of town up north somewhere. Finally Palm Beach can recover and breathe again.

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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Health care gets people hot..
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    BS44325 said:
    Health care gets people hot..
    Life and death issue.
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited May 2017
    BS44325 said:
    Health care gets people hot..
    Well no shit.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    BS44325 said:
    Health care gets people hot..
    Well no shit.
    I don't know...I'm a little surprised. Obamacare is in a death spiral...the "life and death issue" is already underway yet there is zero passion on here to create a fix. In fact it is the attempt at a fix that is driving everybody to the brink. It is the attempt at a fix that is shutting down threads. It makes me wonder if it once again is all about trump? If it was truly about healthcare then the AMT would be demanding an alternative to the present collapse.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,086
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Health care gets people hot..
    Well no shit.
    I don't know...I'm a little surprised. Obamacare is in a death spiral...the "life and death issue" is already underway yet there is zero passion on here to create a fix. In fact it is the attempt at a fix that is driving everybody to the brink. It is the attempt at a fix that is shutting down threads. It makes me wonder if it once again is all about trump? If it was truly about healthcare then the AMT would be demanding an alternative to the present collapse.
    People have given input on different ideas about improving health insurance. "Demand" might not be the best word to use. It's not like amt is some direct connection to Congress. 
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited May 2017
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Health care gets people hot..
    Well no shit.
    I don't know...I'm a little surprised. Obamacare is in a death spiral...the "life and death issue" is already underway yet there is zero passion on here to create a fix. In fact it is the attempt at a fix that is driving everybody to the brink. It is the attempt at a fix that is shutting down threads. It makes me wonder if it once again is all about trump? If it was truly about healthcare then the AMT would be demanding an alternative to the present collapse.
    I'm all about fixing... but im not a fan of "The Fixer" lol... I think the issue is they aren't really trying to fix anything and it's pretty obvious... and we dont like the proposed changes... and the changes are likely harmful to a lot of Americans, including some of the most vulnerable

    And of course someone in a diverse America like me see's essentially and older all-white nearly all-male frat party celebrating in the Rose Garden... which is why I'm never voting for a man again in any political race, unless my boy Bernie can secure that nomination in 2020...
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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Health care gets people hot..
    Well no shit.
    I don't know...I'm a little surprised. Obamacare is in a death spiral...the "life and death issue" is already underway yet there is zero passion on here to create a fix. In fact it is the attempt at a fix that is driving everybody to the brink. It is the attempt at a fix that is shutting down threads. It makes me wonder if it once again is all about trump? If it was truly about healthcare then the AMT would be demanding an alternative to the present collapse.
    According to the talking points provided to R's and Fox by insurance companies.  Don't buy into that shit.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    my2hands said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Health care gets people hot..
    Well no shit.
    I don't know...I'm a little surprised. Obamacare is in a death spiral...the "life and death issue" is already underway yet there is zero passion on here to create a fix. In fact it is the attempt at a fix that is driving everybody to the brink. It is the attempt at a fix that is shutting down threads. It makes me wonder if it once again is all about trump? If it was truly about healthcare then the AMT would be demanding an alternative to the present collapse.
    I'm all about fixing... but im not a fan of "The Fixer" lol... I think the issue is they aren't really trying to fix anything and it's pretty obvious... and we dont like the proposed changes... and the changes are likely harmful to a lot of Americans, including some of the most vulnerable

    And of course someone in a diverse America like me see's essentially and older all-white nearly all-male frat party celebrating in the Rose Garden... which is why I'm never voting for a man again in any political race, unless my boy Bernie can secure that nomination in 2020...
    You are right that celebration is tacky. Any "fix" will absolutely have negative ramifications on a segment of the population and yes thise negative ramifications will always fall disproportionately on the poor. There is no perfect bill unfortunately and universal coverage will not be happening. Where I disagree with oyu though is on The Fixer. I love The Fixer. It's a great song that gets a lot of grief on this forum for a reason I will never understand. I hope it returns to a setlist sometime soon.

    lastly...this mobile app on iOS is driving me insane. Typing is a friggin nightmare.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Tiki said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Health care gets people hot..
    Well no shit.
    I don't know...I'm a little surprised. Obamacare is in a death spiral...the "life and death issue" is already underway yet there is zero passion on here to create a fix. In fact it is the attempt at a fix that is driving everybody to the brink. It is the attempt at a fix that is shutting down threads. It makes me wonder if it once again is all about trump? If it was truly about healthcare then the AMT would be demanding an alternative to the present collapse.
    According to the talking points provided to R's and Fox by insurance companies.  Don't buy into that shit.
    You are in denial. The insurance market is collapsing. It is a death spiral. 
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    https://youtu.be/lA9l76zb8Bg

    I was at this show... best performance of The Fixer I have seen... and hopefully the last lol

    Only been played twice since then. It's down to once per year status thankfully!

    My girlfriend loves the fixer, and she is smarter than me, so that probably says something lol
  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    Health insurance corporations need a lifeline. Their business model is all effed up.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Republicans nor Democrats are addressing the real health care issue ... why are the costs so high and how can we reduce them?  When you see your bill and get charged $40 for a goddamn tongue depressor, that is where the focus should start.  It shouldn't start at the back-end where the focus is on how we can get an insurance company to pay for a $40 tongue depressor.  

    You don't need expensive health care insurance if health care isn't expensive.  Backwards thinking by all parties.  
  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    Even in this climate of corruption a fundamental change is needed to the question we're looking for an answer to.
    Congress should concentrate on the idea of actual health "care" and not health "insurance".
    Who lobbies and makes contributions to their re-election campaigns them on behalf of "care"?  Sick poor people?  


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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    Fuckers
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
  • dignin said:
    The permanent scowl he has on his face is likely a result of all the scowling he did as a youth- growing up and pouting every time his father wouldn't let him drive the Rolls Royce or use the private jet to fly somewhere for lunch.

    Poor Donald.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    my2hands said:
    https://youtu.be/lA9l76zb8Bg

    I was at this show... best performance of The Fixer I have seen... and hopefully the last lol

    Only been played twice since then. It's down to once per year status thankfully!

    My girlfriend loves the fixer, and she is smarter than me, so that probably says something lol
    Wow my2hands...you and I disagree a lot but this could be the biggest one yet! I dig The Fixer! I superduper really dig it and I need to hear it live again! Tell your girlfriend she's not alone!
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    The Fixer is middle ground for me, probably really fun live, but not a stand-out on the album for me.
    Sure beats Johnny Guitar though!
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    edited May 2017
    Tiki said:
    Even in this climate of corruption a fundamental change is needed to the question we're looking for an answer to.
    Congress should concentrate on the idea of actual health "care" and not health "insurance".
    Who lobbies and makes contributions to their re-election campaigns them on behalf of "care"?  Sick poor people?  


    Right....the CEOs provide the health care, no doubt about that.  That's the fucking problem in this country.

    Trump voters are fine with corporations making health decisions for them...they just don't want the gubmint to have any authority over those fucking millionaire CEOs
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited May 2017
    rgambs said:
    The Fixer is middle ground for me, probably really fun live, but not a stand-out on the album for me.
    Sure beats Johnny Guitar though!
    Oh Gawd Johnny Guitar is awful.

    PJ is freaking awesome and one of my top three favourite bands, but that song leaves much to be desired. In fact (lol)... that song reminds me of your position in the Cop Abuse thread!
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    rgambs said:
    The Fixer is middle ground for me, probably really fun live, but not a stand-out on the album for me.
    Sure beats Johnny Guitar though!
    Oh Gawd Johnny Guitar is awful.

    PJ is freaking awesome and one of my top three favourite bands, but that song leaves much to be desired. In fact (lol)... that song reminds me of your position in the Cop Abuse thread!
    Hahaha good one! 

    Johnny Guitar is the only PJ song I don't like!
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    rgambs said:
    The Fixer is middle ground for me, probably really fun live, but not a stand-out on the album for me.
    Sure beats Johnny Guitar though!
    Oh Gawd Johnny Guitar is awful.

    PJ is freaking awesome and one of my top three favourite bands, but that song leaves much to be desired. In fact (lol)... that song reminds me of your position in the Cop Abuse thread!
    Here we go again...

    I also dig Johnny Guitar big time. The outro on that is solid as fuck and I believe has great jam potential should the band choose to stretch it out. I even requested it for Mexico City!

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/248114/johnny-guitar-in-mexico-city

    Many Mexicans are probably happy that was ignored.
  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    After Amongst The Waves, Johnny Guitar and Supersonic are my favorites from Backspacer
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited May 2017
    Johnny Guitar blows

    Swap it out for a 7 minute studio "Of The Earth" and people would worship at the altar of Backspacer

    The actual Johnny "Guitar" Watson was badass however... I think he even died on stage?
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