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HesCalledDyer

HughFreakingDillon said:

I always love the american fascination with sports, like it means something in the real world. to be invited to the white house to meet the president like they did something of real value. like they are soldiers on the front lines or something.

they played a game.

and there's no such thing as "world champions" in american sports, idiots. that makes me laugh, every single time.

It is rather silly. Sports, like everything else in America, are very territorial. Hell, I love sports and often times take them way too seriously myself. But even I can admit the glorification of them here is pretty funny.

tbergs

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Cliffy6745 said:

cincybearcat said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Hats on, not only inside, but inside the f'ing White House

Really? Ok grandma. What a weird thing to notice/care about. Not a fan of nugent or kid rock really, but I'm continually amazed at what people get pissed off about.

It's not raining, nor is there sun inside. Take your hat off.

honestly, I get it, the custom of respect of taking off your hat. I, however, have never understood the relation of respect to being hatless. it's probably a military thing, where the general keeps his hat on, but everyone else takes theirs off, so the heirarchy is obvious, but that's just a guess.

other than that, I couldn't care less if someone keeps their hat on inside.

I'm the same. I don't care. There's no logic to it really- it's just an antiquated custom that's supposed to demonstrate respect.

That's not to say I don't take my hat off where I'm 'supposed to' so that other's dinners aren't ruined (like Tony's).

Wearing a baseball cap or god awful camo hat has no business at a formal dinner or event. They have hats for formal attire and that camo piece of shit isn't it. Kid Rock's is a little better and more fitting, but I also hold the standard with my kids that hats don't belong at the dinner table or formal events. If you want to wear a hat and eat, go to a ball game or a fast food dump.

tbergs

HesCalledDyer said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I always love the american fascination with sports, like it means something in the real world. to be invited to the white house to meet the president like they did something of real value. like they are soldiers on the front lines or something.

they played a game.

and there's no such thing as "world champions" in american sports, idiots. that makes me laugh, every single time.

It is rather silly. Sports, like everything else in America, are very territorial. Hell, I love sports and often times take them way too seriously myself. But even I can admit the glorification of them here is pretty funny.

Agreed. If people only cared half as much about real world issues, their health or who they are voting for instead of knowing the stats of all their favorite players we'd be much better off.

HughFreakingDillon

tbergs said:

HesCalledDyer said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I always love the american fascination with sports, like it means something in the real world. to be invited to the white house to meet the president like they did something of real value. like they are soldiers on the front lines or something.

they played a game.

and there's no such thing as "world champions" in american sports, idiots. that makes me laugh, every single time.

It is rather silly. Sports, like everything else in America, are very territorial. Hell, I love sports and often times take them way too seriously myself. But even I can admit the glorification of them here is pretty funny.

Agreed. If people only cared half as much about real world issues, their health or who they are voting for instead of knowing the stats of all their favorite players we'd be much better off.

it boggles my mind how seriously people take it. I used to have season tickets to the (CFL football team) Winnipeg Blue Bombers. they have sucked so bad for so many years (seriously, an 8 team league, we haven't won the cup since 19-fucking-91), people get so incredibly angry at games. I remember vividly one guy, at the end of the game, throwing his sunglasses to the ground and stomping on them in a fit of anger. A buddy of mine nearly got into a fist fight with another fan since he's from BC and was chearing the Lions, and this Bomber fan wanted to fight him for it.

and don't get me started on people KILLING REFS over soccer games.

HughFreakingDillon

tbergs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Cliffy6745 said:

cincybearcat said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Hats on, not only inside, but inside the f'ing White House

Really? Ok grandma. What a weird thing to notice/care about. Not a fan of nugent or kid rock really, but I'm continually amazed at what people get pissed off about.

It's not raining, nor is there sun inside. Take your hat off.

honestly, I get it, the custom of respect of taking off your hat. I, however, have never understood the relation of respect to being hatless. it's probably a military thing, where the general keeps his hat on, but everyone else takes theirs off, so the heirarchy is obvious, but that's just a guess.

other than that, I couldn't care less if someone keeps their hat on inside.

I'm the same. I don't care. There's no logic to it really- it's just an antiquated custom that's supposed to demonstrate respect.

That's not to say I don't take my hat off where I'm 'supposed to' so that other's dinners aren't ruined (like Tony's).

Wearing a baseball cap or god awful camo hat has no business at a formal dinner or event. They have hats for formal attire and that camo piece of shit isn't it. Kid Rock's is a little better and more fitting, but I also hold the standard with my kids that hats don't belong at the dinner table or formal events. If you want to wear a hat and eat, go to a ball game or a fast food dump.

as dumb as I think it is, I still tell my daughters to take their caps/hats/toques off at dinner, at home or out.

not sure why it seemingly gets you so hot under the collar though. what gives?

Cliffy6745

cincybearcat said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Hats on, not only inside, but inside the f'ing White House

Really? Ok grandma. What a weird thing to notice/care about. Not a fan of nugent or kid rock really, but I'm continually amazed at what people get pissed off about.

Screw it. While we're at it.

Ted, you're not a cowboy, you don't need a cowboy hat. Also, camo, you're not blending into the surroundings in the white house.

Sarah, oh, Sarah...where do we start? You are at the white house dressed like you are ready to go to a Southwestern bar with a mechanical bull. Put your shoulders away. Dress lady is fine with her shoulders out as she has a very nice dress on, but you, not so much.

Kid rock. Outside of the hat, no matter what people are wearing these days, blue and black DO NOT match.

And just to show I am an equal opportunity curmudgeon, Bob, take your god damn sunglasses off. The UV rays do not come through walls.

tbergs

HughFreakingDillon said:

tbergs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Cliffy6745 said:

cincybearcat said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Hats on, not only inside, but inside the f'ing White House

Really? Ok grandma. What a weird thing to notice/care about. Not a fan of nugent or kid rock really, but I'm continually amazed at what people get pissed off about.

It's not raining, nor is there sun inside. Take your hat off.

honestly, I get it, the custom of respect of taking off your hat. I, however, have never understood the relation of respect to being hatless. it's probably a military thing, where the general keeps his hat on, but everyone else takes theirs off, so the heirarchy is obvious, but that's just a guess.

other than that, I couldn't care less if someone keeps their hat on inside.

I'm the same. I don't care. There's no logic to it really- it's just an antiquated custom that's supposed to demonstrate respect.

That's not to say I don't take my hat off where I'm 'supposed to' so that other's dinners aren't ruined (like Tony's).

Wearing a baseball cap or god awful camo hat has no business at a formal dinner or event. They have hats for formal attire and that camo piece of shit isn't it. Kid Rock's is a little better and more fitting, but I also hold the standard with my kids that hats don't belong at the dinner table or formal events. If you want to wear a hat and eat, go to a ball game or a fast food dump.

as dumb as I think it is, I still tell my daughters to take their caps/hats/toques off at dinner, at home or out.

not sure why it seemingly gets you so hot under the collar though. what gives?

Not really hot, but more annoyed. I think it's disrespectful and I was strictly raised that way. My dad made it very clear no hats at the table or events. I didn't get it then, but now there's just something about it that I find disrespectful and rude. It's the little things we do to show respect that seem to be getting lost in today's all too busy way of life. A family dinner together around the table with good manners and respect would do a lot of today's youth good.

Curious enough, I looked up the hat etiquette history and found this:

“Taking the hat off is the modern remains of the ancient custom of
Knights who removed their helmets in the presence of those they felt
their friends and thus, before those they wished to honor by showing
that they trusted them. A man removes his hat before a woman to show
his respect. Touching the brim is but a perfunctory salute.”

Anyway, back to the Three Amigos at the WH the other day.

CM189191

Cliffy6745 said:

cincybearcat said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Hats on, not only inside, but inside the f'ing White House

Really? Ok grandma. What a weird thing to notice/care about. Not a fan of nugent or kid rock really, but I'm continually amazed at what people get pissed off about.

Screw it. While we're at it.

Ted, you're not a cowboy, you don't need a cowboy hat. Also, camo, you're not blending into the surroundings in the white house.

Sarah, oh, Sarah...where do we start? You are at the white house dressed like you are ready to go to a Southwestern bar with a mechanical bull. Put your shoulders away. Dress lady is fine with her shoulders out as she has a very nice dress on, but you, not so much.

Kid rock. Outside of the hat, no matter what people are wearing these days, blue and black DO NOT match.

And just to show I am an equal opportunity curmudgeon, Bob, take your god damn sunglasses off. The UV rays do not come through walls.

Those are prescription!
Bob left his regular ones on Air Force One when they dropped him off.
He had to wear his shades so he could read his acceptance speech.

Cliffy6745

tbergs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Cliffy6745 said:

cincybearcat said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Hats on, not only inside, but inside the f'ing White House

Really? Ok grandma. What a weird thing to notice/care about. Not a fan of nugent or kid rock really, but I'm continually amazed at what people get pissed off about.

It's not raining, nor is there sun inside. Take your hat off.

honestly, I get it, the custom of respect of taking off your hat. I, however, have never understood the relation of respect to being hatless. it's probably a military thing, where the general keeps his hat on, but everyone else takes theirs off, so the heirarchy is obvious, but that's just a guess.

other than that, I couldn't care less if someone keeps their hat on inside.

I'm the same. I don't care. There's no logic to it really- it's just an antiquated custom that's supposed to demonstrate respect.

That's not to say I don't take my hat off where I'm 'supposed to' so that other's dinners aren't ruined (like Tony's).

Wearing a baseball cap or god awful camo hat has no business at a formal dinner or event. They have hats for formal attire and that camo piece of shit isn't it. Kid Rock's is a little better and more fitting, but I also hold the standard with my kids that hats don't belong at the dinner table or formal events. If you want to wear a hat and eat, go to a ball game or a fast food dump.

BINGO. This guy gets it.

tbergs

Cliffy6745 said:

cincybearcat said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Hats on, not only inside, but inside the f'ing White House

Really? Ok grandma. What a weird thing to notice/care about. Not a fan of nugent or kid rock really, but I'm continually amazed at what people get pissed off about.

Screw it. While we're at it.

Ted, you're not a cowboy, you don't need a cowboy hat. Also, camo, you're not blending into the surroundings in the white house.

Sarah, oh, Sarah...where do we start? You are at the white house dressed like you are ready to go to a Southwestern bar with a mechanical bull. Put your shoulders away. Dress lady is fine with her shoulders out as she has a very nice dress on, but you, not so much.

Kid rock. Outside of the hat, no matter what people are wearing these days, blue and black DO NOT match.

And just to show I am an equal opportunity curmudgeon, Bob, take your god damn sunglasses off. The UV rays do not come through walls.

Haha! I am with on everything except blue and black (I honestly think it can look good when worn properly). Thought Palin looked ridiculous. Always trying to play the part of a hot mom instead of real lady. Puke!

HughFreakingDillon

tbergs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tbergs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Cliffy6745 said:

cincybearcat said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Hats on, not only inside, but inside the f'ing White House

Really? Ok grandma. What a weird thing to notice/care about. Not a fan of nugent or kid rock really, but I'm continually amazed at what people get pissed off about.

It's not raining, nor is there sun inside. Take your hat off.

honestly, I get it, the custom of respect of taking off your hat. I, however, have never understood the relation of respect to being hatless. it's probably a military thing, where the general keeps his hat on, but everyone else takes theirs off, so the heirarchy is obvious, but that's just a guess.

other than that, I couldn't care less if someone keeps their hat on inside.

I'm the same. I don't care. There's no logic to it really- it's just an antiquated custom that's supposed to demonstrate respect.

That's not to say I don't take my hat off where I'm 'supposed to' so that other's dinners aren't ruined (like Tony's).

Wearing a baseball cap or god awful camo hat has no business at a formal dinner or event. They have hats for formal attire and that camo piece of shit isn't it. Kid Rock's is a little better and more fitting, but I also hold the standard with my kids that hats don't belong at the dinner table or formal events. If you want to wear a hat and eat, go to a ball game or a fast food dump.

as dumb as I think it is, I still tell my daughters to take their caps/hats/toques off at dinner, at home or out.

not sure why it seemingly gets you so hot under the collar though. what gives?

Not really hot, but more annoyed. I think it's disrespectful and I was strictly raised that way. My dad made it very clear no hats at the table or events. I didn't get it then, but now there's just something about it that I find disrespectful and rude. It's the little things we do to show respect that seem to be getting lost in today's all too busy way of life. A family dinner together around the table with good manners and respect would do a lot of today's youth good.

Curious enough, I looked up the hat etiquette history and found this:

“Taking the hat off is the modern remains of the ancient custom of
Knights who removed their helmets in the presence of those they felt
their friends and thus, before those they wished to honor by showing
that they trusted them. A man removes his hat before a woman to show
his respect. Touching the brim is but a perfunctory salute.”

Anyway, back to the Three Amigos at the WH the other day.

so, in essence, you think it's disrespectful ONLY because that's the way you were raised (and I think there's a lot of things like this). that's kinda my point. if we don't know why something is offensive to us, only because "that's how I was taught", maybe we need to look at it a bit closer?

Cliffy6745

tbergs said:

Cliffy6745 said:

cincybearcat said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Hats on, not only inside, but inside the f'ing White House

Really? Ok grandma. What a weird thing to notice/care about. Not a fan of nugent or kid rock really, but I'm continually amazed at what people get pissed off about.

Screw it. While we're at it.

Ted, you're not a cowboy, you don't need a cowboy hat. Also, camo, you're not blending into the surroundings in the white house.

Sarah, oh, Sarah...where do we start? You are at the white house dressed like you are ready to go to a Southwestern bar with a mechanical bull. Put your shoulders away. Dress lady is fine with her shoulders out as she has a very nice dress on, but you, not so much.

Kid rock. Outside of the hat, no matter what people are wearing these days, blue and black DO NOT match.

And just to show I am an equal opportunity curmudgeon, Bob, take your god damn sunglasses off. The UV rays do not come through walls.

Haha! I am with on everything except blue and black (I honestly think it can look good when worn properly). Thought Palin looked ridiculous. Always trying to play the part of a hot mom instead of real lady. Puke!

My wife says the same thing about blue and black. I just can't get with it. Palin is just the worst of the worst.

Cliffy6745

CM189191 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

cincybearcat said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Hats on, not only inside, but inside the f'ing White House

Really? Ok grandma. What a weird thing to notice/care about. Not a fan of nugent or kid rock really, but I'm continually amazed at what people get pissed off about.

Screw it. While we're at it.

Ted, you're not a cowboy, you don't need a cowboy hat. Also, camo, you're not blending into the surroundings in the white house.

Sarah, oh, Sarah...where do we start? You are at the white house dressed like you are ready to go to a Southwestern bar with a mechanical bull. Put your shoulders away. Dress lady is fine with her shoulders out as she has a very nice dress on, but you, not so much.

Kid rock. Outside of the hat, no matter what people are wearing these days, blue and black DO NOT match.

And just to show I am an equal opportunity curmudgeon, Bob, take your god damn sunglasses off. The UV rays do not come through walls.

Those are prescription!
Bob left his regular ones on Air Force One when they dropped him off.
He had to wear his shades so he could read his acceptance speech.

Is that a fact?

tbergs

HughFreakingDillon said:

tbergs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tbergs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Cliffy6745 said:

cincybearcat said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Hats on, not only inside, but inside the f'ing White House

Really? Ok grandma. What a weird thing to notice/care about. Not a fan of nugent or kid rock really, but I'm continually amazed at what people get pissed off about.

It's not raining, nor is there sun inside. Take your hat off.

honestly, I get it, the custom of respect of taking off your hat. I, however, have never understood the relation of respect to being hatless. it's probably a military thing, where the general keeps his hat on, but everyone else takes theirs off, so the heirarchy is obvious, but that's just a guess.

other than that, I couldn't care less if someone keeps their hat on inside.

I'm the same. I don't care. There's no logic to it really- it's just an antiquated custom that's supposed to demonstrate respect.

That's not to say I don't take my hat off where I'm 'supposed to' so that other's dinners aren't ruined (like Tony's).

Wearing a baseball cap or god awful camo hat has no business at a formal dinner or event. They have hats for formal attire and that camo piece of shit isn't it. Kid Rock's is a little better and more fitting, but I also hold the standard with my kids that hats don't belong at the dinner table or formal events. If you want to wear a hat and eat, go to a ball game or a fast food dump.

as dumb as I think it is, I still tell my daughters to take their caps/hats/toques off at dinner, at home or out.

not sure why it seemingly gets you so hot under the collar though. what gives?

Not really hot, but more annoyed. I think it's disrespectful and I was strictly raised that way. My dad made it very clear no hats at the table or events. I didn't get it then, but now there's just something about it that I find disrespectful and rude. It's the little things we do to show respect that seem to be getting lost in today's all too busy way of life. A family dinner together around the table with good manners and respect would do a lot of today's youth good.

Curious enough, I looked up the hat etiquette history and found this:

“Taking the hat off is the modern remains of the ancient custom of
Knights who removed their helmets in the presence of those they felt
their friends and thus, before those they wished to honor by showing
that they trusted them. A man removes his hat before a woman to show
his respect. Touching the brim is but a perfunctory salute.”

Anyway, back to the Three Amigos at the WH the other day.

so, in essence, you think it's disrespectful ONLY because that's the way you were raised (and I think there's a lot of things like this). that's kinda my point. if we don't know why something is offensive to us, only because "that's how I was taught", maybe we need to look at it a bit closer?

I get that, but I consider the flipside, people wearing a baseball cap/hat the majority of the time and I think, what the fuck is wrong with us. The purpose of a hat is to provide some sort of protection from the elements or advertise/support a product/team/slogan unless otherwise designed to be worn with a certain outfit/attire. What would you say about wearing sunglasses inside all the time or keeping a coat on. I think these customs are there because it is a sign of respect. I can't point to a specific reason why my kids shouldn't put their feet up on someone's table, lean on their hand while eating or use please and thank you besides that they are all signs of respect.

Cliffy6745

tbergs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tbergs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tbergs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Cliffy6745 said:

cincybearcat said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Hats on, not only inside, but inside the f'ing White House

Really? Ok grandma. What a weird thing to notice/care about. Not a fan of nugent or kid rock really, but I'm continually amazed at what people get pissed off about.

It's not raining, nor is there sun inside. Take your hat off.

honestly, I get it, the custom of respect of taking off your hat. I, however, have never understood the relation of respect to being hatless. it's probably a military thing, where the general keeps his hat on, but everyone else takes theirs off, so the heirarchy is obvious, but that's just a guess.

other than that, I couldn't care less if someone keeps their hat on inside.

I'm the same. I don't care. There's no logic to it really- it's just an antiquated custom that's supposed to demonstrate respect.

That's not to say I don't take my hat off where I'm 'supposed to' so that other's dinners aren't ruined (like Tony's).

Wearing a baseball cap or god awful camo hat has no business at a formal dinner or event. They have hats for formal attire and that camo piece of shit isn't it. Kid Rock's is a little better and more fitting, but I also hold the standard with my kids that hats don't belong at the dinner table or formal events. If you want to wear a hat and eat, go to a ball game or a fast food dump.

as dumb as I think it is, I still tell my daughters to take their caps/hats/toques off at dinner, at home or out.

not sure why it seemingly gets you so hot under the collar though. what gives?

Not really hot, but more annoyed. I think it's disrespectful and I was strictly raised that way. My dad made it very clear no hats at the table or events. I didn't get it then, but now there's just something about it that I find disrespectful and rude. It's the little things we do to show respect that seem to be getting lost in today's all too busy way of life. A family dinner together around the table with good manners and respect would do a lot of today's youth good.

Curious enough, I looked up the hat etiquette history and found this:

“Taking the hat off is the modern remains of the ancient custom of
Knights who removed their helmets in the presence of those they felt
their friends and thus, before those they wished to honor by showing
that they trusted them. A man removes his hat before a woman to show
his respect. Touching the brim is but a perfunctory salute.”

Anyway, back to the Three Amigos at the WH the other day.

so, in essence, you think it's disrespectful ONLY because that's the way you were raised (and I think there's a lot of things like this). that's kinda my point. if we don't know why something is offensive to us, only because "that's how I was taught", maybe we need to look at it a bit closer?

I get that, but I consider the flipside, people wearing a baseball cap/hat the majority of the time and I think, what the fuck is wrong with us. The purpose of a hat is to provide some sort of protection from the elements or advertise/support a product/team/slogan unless otherwise designed to be worn with a certain outfit/attire. What would you say about wearing sunglasses inside all the time or keeping a coat on. I think these customs are there because it is a sign of respect. I can't point to a specific reason why my kids shouldn't put their feet up on someone's table, lean on their hand while eating or use please and thank you besides that they are all signs of respect.

This is perfect. There are just certain things that show respect. The point I was getting at earlier is right here. Hats are designed to be worn outside because of various elements. Just like underwear is designed to be worn under your clothes as protection and support. Wear what is appropriate for the occasion. If I wear my flat cap the entire time I am at someones house, that tells me I can't wait to get the hell out.

jeffbr

Cliffy6745 said:

tbergs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tbergs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tbergs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Cliffy6745 said:

cincybearcat said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Hats on, not only inside, but inside the f'ing White House

Really? Ok grandma. What a weird thing to notice/care about. Not a fan of nugent or kid rock really, but I'm continually amazed at what people get pissed off about.

It's not raining, nor is there sun inside. Take your hat off.

honestly, I get it, the custom of respect of taking off your hat. I, however, have never understood the relation of respect to being hatless. it's probably a military thing, where the general keeps his hat on, but everyone else takes theirs off, so the heirarchy is obvious, but that's just a guess.

other than that, I couldn't care less if someone keeps their hat on inside.

I'm the same. I don't care. There's no logic to it really- it's just an antiquated custom that's supposed to demonstrate respect.

That's not to say I don't take my hat off where I'm 'supposed to' so that other's dinners aren't ruined (like Tony's).

Wearing a baseball cap or god awful camo hat has no business at a formal dinner or event. They have hats for formal attire and that camo piece of shit isn't it. Kid Rock's is a little better and more fitting, but I also hold the standard with my kids that hats don't belong at the dinner table or formal events. If you want to wear a hat and eat, go to a ball game or a fast food dump.

as dumb as I think it is, I still tell my daughters to take their caps/hats/toques off at dinner, at home or out.

not sure why it seemingly gets you so hot under the collar though. what gives?

Not really hot, but more annoyed. I think it's disrespectful and I was strictly raised that way. My dad made it very clear no hats at the table or events. I didn't get it then, but now there's just something about it that I find disrespectful and rude. It's the little things we do to show respect that seem to be getting lost in today's all too busy way of life. A family dinner together around the table with good manners and respect would do a lot of today's youth good.

Curious enough, I looked up the hat etiquette history and found this:

“Taking the hat off is the modern remains of the ancient custom of
Knights who removed their helmets in the presence of those they felt
their friends and thus, before those they wished to honor by showing
that they trusted them. A man removes his hat before a woman to show
his respect. Touching the brim is but a perfunctory salute.”

Anyway, back to the Three Amigos at the WH the other day.

so, in essence, you think it's disrespectful ONLY because that's the way you were raised (and I think there's a lot of things like this). that's kinda my point. if we don't know why something is offensive to us, only because "that's how I was taught", maybe we need to look at it a bit closer?

I get that, but I consider the flipside, people wearing a baseball cap/hat the majority of the time and I think, what the fuck is wrong with us. The purpose of a hat is to provide some sort of protection from the elements or advertise/support a product/team/slogan unless otherwise designed to be worn with a certain outfit/attire. What would you say about wearing sunglasses inside all the time or keeping a coat on. I think these customs are there because it is a sign of respect. I can't point to a specific reason why my kids shouldn't put their feet up on someone's table, lean on their hand while eating or use please and thank you besides that they are all signs of respect.

This is perfect. There are just certain things that show respect. The point I was getting at earlier is right here. Hats are designed to be worn outside because of various elements. Just like underwear is designed to be worn under your clothes as protection and support. Wear what is appropriate for the occasion. If I wear my flat cap the entire time I am at someones house, that tells me I can't wait to get the hell out.

I'm on board with Cliffy and tberg here, but I also understand I'm part of a bygone generation. Based on the modern hipster look, I can no longer hang, and the boundaries of what is appropriate are definitely changing. Manners and respect in general seem to be antiquated notions from the past.

rgambs

tbergs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tbergs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tbergs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Cliffy6745 said:

cincybearcat said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Hats on, not only inside, but inside the f'ing White House

Really? Ok grandma. What a weird thing to notice/care about. Not a fan of nugent or kid rock really, but I'm continually amazed at what people get pissed off about.

It's not raining, nor is there sun inside. Take your hat off.

honestly, I get it, the custom of respect of taking off your hat. I, however, have never understood the relation of respect to being hatless. it's probably a military thing, where the general keeps his hat on, but everyone else takes theirs off, so the heirarchy is obvious, but that's just a guess.

other than that, I couldn't care less if someone keeps their hat on inside.

I'm the same. I don't care. There's no logic to it really- it's just an antiquated custom that's supposed to demonstrate respect.

That's not to say I don't take my hat off where I'm 'supposed to' so that other's dinners aren't ruined (like Tony's).

Wearing a baseball cap or god awful camo hat has no business at a formal dinner or event. They have hats for formal attire and that camo piece of shit isn't it. Kid Rock's is a little better and more fitting, but I also hold the standard with my kids that hats don't belong at the dinner table or formal events. If you want to wear a hat and eat, go to a ball game or a fast food dump.

as dumb as I think it is, I still tell my daughters to take their caps/hats/toques off at dinner, at home or out.

not sure why it seemingly gets you so hot under the collar though. what gives?

Not really hot, but more annoyed. I think it's disrespectful and I was strictly raised that way. My dad made it very clear no hats at the table or events. I didn't get it then, but now there's just something about it that I find disrespectful and rude. It's the little things we do to show respect that seem to be getting lost in today's all too busy way of life. A family dinner together around the table with good manners and respect would do a lot of today's youth good.

Curious enough, I looked up the hat etiquette history and found this:

“Taking the hat off is the modern remains of the ancient custom of
Knights who removed their helmets in the presence of those they felt
their friends and thus, before those they wished to honor by showing
that they trusted them. A man removes his hat before a woman to show
his respect. Touching the brim is but a perfunctory salute.”

Anyway, back to the Three Amigos at the WH the other day.

so, in essence, you think it's disrespectful ONLY because that's the way you were raised (and I think there's a lot of things like this). that's kinda my point. if we don't know why something is offensive to us, only because "that's how I was taught", maybe we need to look at it a bit closer?

I get that, but I consider the flipside, people wearing a baseball cap/hat the majority of the time and I think, what the fuck is wrong with us. The purpose of a hat is to provide some sort of protection from the elements or advertise/support a product/team/slogan unless otherwise designed to be worn with a certain outfit/attire. What would you say about wearing sunglasses inside all the time or keeping a coat on. I think these customs are there because it is a sign of respect. I can't point to a specific reason why my kids shouldn't put their feet up on someone's table, lean on their hand while eating or use please and thank you besides that they are all signs of respect.

Backwards hats. The PJ generation.
Bothers the fuck out of me lol

tbergs

rgambs said:

tbergs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tbergs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tbergs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Cliffy6745 said:

cincybearcat said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Hats on, not only inside, but inside the f'ing White House

Really? Ok grandma. What a weird thing to notice/care about. Not a fan of nugent or kid rock really, but I'm continually amazed at what people get pissed off about.

It's not raining, nor is there sun inside. Take your hat off.

honestly, I get it, the custom of respect of taking off your hat. I, however, have never understood the relation of respect to being hatless. it's probably a military thing, where the general keeps his hat on, but everyone else takes theirs off, so the heirarchy is obvious, but that's just a guess.

other than that, I couldn't care less if someone keeps their hat on inside.

I'm the same. I don't care. There's no logic to it really- it's just an antiquated custom that's supposed to demonstrate respect.

That's not to say I don't take my hat off where I'm 'supposed to' so that other's dinners aren't ruined (like Tony's).

Wearing a baseball cap or god awful camo hat has no business at a formal dinner or event. They have hats for formal attire and that camo piece of shit isn't it. Kid Rock's is a little better and more fitting, but I also hold the standard with my kids that hats don't belong at the dinner table or formal events. If you want to wear a hat and eat, go to a ball game or a fast food dump.

as dumb as I think it is, I still tell my daughters to take their caps/hats/toques off at dinner, at home or out.

not sure why it seemingly gets you so hot under the collar though. what gives?

Not really hot, but more annoyed. I think it's disrespectful and I was strictly raised that way. My dad made it very clear no hats at the table or events. I didn't get it then, but now there's just something about it that I find disrespectful and rude. It's the little things we do to show respect that seem to be getting lost in today's all too busy way of life. A family dinner together around the table with good manners and respect would do a lot of today's youth good.

Curious enough, I looked up the hat etiquette history and found this:

“Taking the hat off is the modern remains of the ancient custom of
Knights who removed their helmets in the presence of those they felt
their friends and thus, before those they wished to honor by showing
that they trusted them. A man removes his hat before a woman to show
his respect. Touching the brim is but a perfunctory salute.”

Anyway, back to the Three Amigos at the WH the other day.

so, in essence, you think it's disrespectful ONLY because that's the way you were raised (and I think there's a lot of things like this). that's kinda my point. if we don't know why something is offensive to us, only because "that's how I was taught", maybe we need to look at it a bit closer?

I get that, but I consider the flipside, people wearing a baseball cap/hat the majority of the time and I think, what the fuck is wrong with us. The purpose of a hat is to provide some sort of protection from the elements or advertise/support a product/team/slogan unless otherwise designed to be worn with a certain outfit/attire. What would you say about wearing sunglasses inside all the time or keeping a coat on. I think these customs are there because it is a sign of respect. I can't point to a specific reason why my kids shouldn't put their feet up on someone's table, lean on their hand while eating or use please and thank you besides that they are all signs of respect.

Backwards hats. The PJ generation.
Bothers the fuck out of me lol

Haha! Completely acceptable.

InHiding80

CM189191 said:

Idiocracy was not meant to be a documentary or a how-to manual!!

Kev - Coat and Keys

My thing with indoor hats - other than old-school manners and not getting the benefit when you go back outside - is that I always assume the person is insecure about losing their hair.
And insecurity about appearance is one thing the Trump whitehouse is good at.