Donald Trump

benjs

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

BS44325 said:

Speaking of deplorables

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/nearing-100-days-trumps-approval-at-record-lows-but-his-base-is-holding/2017/04/22/a513a466-26b4-11e7-b503-9d616bd5a305_story.html

The money quote

"Despite the public’s skepticism of Trump’s first 100 days, the survey finds little evidence voters would render a different verdict from last November, when Trump won key states needed to secure victory in the electoral college despite Clinton winning more votes nationwide."

The base is holding.

Of course it is.

A stupid person is a stupid person. The morons that are wearing their red hats and waiting for America to be great again are waiting for America to be great again.

And just like religion resides in people who have been brainwashed since they were a child and impressionable... racist attitudes do too. Trump's racist policies alone will always maintain a significant portion of the population.

To ensure a second term... Trump needs to draw the Christians in. He might be starting to doing so with his attacks on planned parenting. I feel if he... oh, say... legislated the Lord's Prayer to be read at all public schools before school started and some other nonsense... the Christians would probably really dig that and get behind him.

If a presidential candidate has the support of all the morons, racists, and Christians... it's over.

Zito is one of the writers who saw the Trump win coming...

http://nypost.com/2017/04/22/how-trump-voters-feel-about-his-first-100-days/

You play right into Trump's hands by labeling his voters morons. Even Bernie gets that your elitism can't win.

Agreed. Nothing like being called a moron to make me see that the other side was right. "Oh, when you put it like that, you must be right!"

Dividing America by labelling others as inferior, and accusing political opponents of doing so - seem to be the norm today regardless of political affiliation.

dignin

BS44325 said:

Speaking of deplorables

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/nearing-100-days-trumps-approval-at-record-lows-but-his-base-is-holding/2017/04/22/a513a466-26b4-11e7-b503-9d616bd5a305_story.html

The money quote

"Despite the public’s skepticism of Trump’s first 100 days, the survey finds little evidence voters would render a different verdict from last November, when Trump won key states needed to secure victory in the electoral college despite Clinton winning more votes nationwide."

The base is holding.

DONALD TRUMP'S LATEST APPROVAL RATINGS IN ELECTION SWING STATES SHOW HOW UNPOPULAR HE REALLY IS


http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-latest-approval-ratings-election-swing-states-588108

benjs

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

Speaking of deplorables

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/nearing-100-days-trumps-approval-at-record-lows-but-his-base-is-holding/2017/04/22/a513a466-26b4-11e7-b503-9d616bd5a305_story.html

The money quote

"Despite the public’s skepticism of Trump’s first 100 days, the survey finds little evidence voters would render a different verdict from last November, when Trump won key states needed to secure victory in the electoral college despite Clinton winning more votes nationwide."

The base is holding.

DONALD TRUMP'S LATEST APPROVAL RATINGS IN ELECTION SWING STATES SHOW HOW UNPOPULAR HE REALLY IS


http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-latest-approval-ratings-election-swing-states-588108

Let's say he has a 2% approval rating...what changes? Anything? If the answer is no, why should anyone give a shit? Seems like the only purpose of the popularity conversation is for bragging rights, to be used for being smug towards political opponents, to divide America more, which Trump supporters can rightly fixate on as their man does whatever he wants with the public focused on division and pee parties in Russia. As though that's what the country needs.

InHiding80

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

At least Jay Z took his hat off when he decided to sit at the head of the table in the situation room

http://swampland.time.com/2010/03/05/jay-z-and-beyonce-at-the-white-house-situation-room/

Umm.....do you see any difference in how Jay Z is dressed verses the trash that was in the oval office the other day? Any difference at all?

Yah. I was confused trying to figure out what he was getting at as well?

Who says that I am getting at anything? I have no problem with how either group is dressed. I have no problem with a mocking photo in front of Hillary. I have no problem with Jay Z taking the President's chair. None of this is a big deal...except to those who are easily triggered.

Yah... I think you were trying to suggest something giving your timing and delivery.

I couldn't give two shits Kid Rock and Ted Nugent visited the White House and exhibited their poor character there. Do people actually think those idiots would be capable of an appropriate decorum when it might be called for?

Pure comedy. Part tragedy.

We get it...they're deplorable.

We get it. You're okay with him and not Jay Z because he's white and has an R next to his name. Cool passive agressive strawman deflection brah.

BS44325

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

Speaking of deplorables

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/nearing-100-days-trumps-approval-at-record-lows-but-his-base-is-holding/2017/04/22/a513a466-26b4-11e7-b503-9d616bd5a305_story.html

The money quote

"Despite the public’s skepticism of Trump’s first 100 days, the survey finds little evidence voters would render a different verdict from last November, when Trump won key states needed to secure victory in the electoral college despite Clinton winning more votes nationwide."

The base is holding.

If after 100 days, your approval is already at an all time low and the only positive you can draw is that the "base is holding,' merely 3 months in........that's.......not......good.......it's actually historically bad.

We were told there would be so much winning our heads would be spinning. That's not quite the case.

His approval was low pre-election...that number has so far been proven to be an irrelevant statistic especially when the opposition is deemed to be worse.

https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/856001020517916672

There is nothing irrelevant about a historically low approval rating when trying to push legislation through. Who wants to be associated with the least popular president we've ever had?

Congress is less popular then the President. They wish they had his low approval ratings.

BS44325

InHiding80 said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

At least Jay Z took his hat off when he decided to sit at the head of the table in the situation room

http://swampland.time.com/2010/03/05/jay-z-and-beyonce-at-the-white-house-situation-room/

Umm.....do you see any difference in how Jay Z is dressed verses the trash that was in the oval office the other day? Any difference at all?

Yah. I was confused trying to figure out what he was getting at as well?

Who says that I am getting at anything? I have no problem with how either group is dressed. I have no problem with a mocking photo in front of Hillary. I have no problem with Jay Z taking the President's chair. None of this is a big deal...except to those who are easily triggered.

Yah... I think you were trying to suggest something giving your timing and delivery.

I couldn't give two shits Kid Rock and Ted Nugent visited the White House and exhibited their poor character there. Do people actually think those idiots would be capable of an appropriate decorum when it might be called for?

Pure comedy. Part tragedy.

We get it...they're deplorable.

We get it. You're okay with him and not Jay Z because he's white and has an R next to his name. Cool passive agressive strawman deflection brah.

I am ok with Jay Z...love that pic. Actually have most have his albums unlike the rest of you who probably only have the PJ christmas single. Can't say I'm a huge Beyoncé fan but Destiny's Child was the shit!

dignin

benjs said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

Speaking of deplorables

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/nearing-100-days-trumps-approval-at-record-lows-but-his-base-is-holding/2017/04/22/a513a466-26b4-11e7-b503-9d616bd5a305_story.html

The money quote

"Despite the public’s skepticism of Trump’s first 100 days, the survey finds little evidence voters would render a different verdict from last November, when Trump won key states needed to secure victory in the electoral college despite Clinton winning more votes nationwide."

The base is holding.

DONALD TRUMP'S LATEST APPROVAL RATINGS IN ELECTION SWING STATES SHOW HOW UNPOPULAR HE REALLY IS


http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-latest-approval-ratings-election-swing-states-588108

Let's say he has a 2% approval rating...what changes? Anything? If the answer is no, why should anyone give a shit? Seems like the only purpose of the popularity conversation is for bragging rights, to be used for being smug towards political opponents, to divide America more, which Trump supporters can rightly fixate on as their man does whatever he wants with the public focused on division and pee parties in Russia. As though that's what the country needs.

If you don't think politicians (think Republican congress up for re-election in 2018) don't look at polls and act accordingly you don't have a clue.

Trump's popularity or lack there of will have a major effect on his ability to get things done.

BS44325

dignin said:

benjs said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

Speaking of deplorables

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/nearing-100-days-trumps-approval-at-record-lows-but-his-base-is-holding/2017/04/22/a513a466-26b4-11e7-b503-9d616bd5a305_story.html

The money quote

"Despite the public’s skepticism of Trump’s first 100 days, the survey finds little evidence voters would render a different verdict from last November, when Trump won key states needed to secure victory in the electoral college despite Clinton winning more votes nationwide."

The base is holding.

DONALD TRUMP'S LATEST APPROVAL RATINGS IN ELECTION SWING STATES SHOW HOW UNPOPULAR HE REALLY IS


http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-latest-approval-ratings-election-swing-states-588108

Let's say he has a 2% approval rating...what changes? Anything? If the answer is no, why should anyone give a shit? Seems like the only purpose of the popularity conversation is for bragging rights, to be used for being smug towards political opponents, to divide America more, which Trump supporters can rightly fixate on as their man does whatever he wants with the public focused on division and pee parties in Russia. As though that's what the country needs.

If you don't think politicians (think Republican congress up for re-election in 2018) don't look at polls and act accordingly you don't have a clue.

Trump's popularity or lack there of will have a major effect on his ability to get things done.

And the polls they see is that 94% of republican voters are with Trump and are sticking with Trump. While democrats are seen to be "out of touch".

Thirty Bills Unpaid

benjs said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

Speaking of deplorables

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/nearing-100-days-trumps-approval-at-record-lows-but-his-base-is-holding/2017/04/22/a513a466-26b4-11e7-b503-9d616bd5a305_story.html

The money quote

"Despite the public’s skepticism of Trump’s first 100 days, the survey finds little evidence voters would render a different verdict from last November, when Trump won key states needed to secure victory in the electoral college despite Clinton winning more votes nationwide."

The base is holding.

DONALD TRUMP'S LATEST APPROVAL RATINGS IN ELECTION SWING STATES SHOW HOW UNPOPULAR HE REALLY IS


http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-latest-approval-ratings-election-swing-states-588108

Let's say he has a 2% approval rating...what changes? Anything? If the answer is no, why should anyone give a shit? Seems like the only purpose of the popularity conversation is for bragging rights, to be used for being smug towards political opponents, to divide America more, which Trump supporters can rightly fixate on as their man does whatever he wants with the public focused on division and pee parties in Russia. As though that's what the country needs.

You've spoken to the notion that it's not helpful calling people morons when they enthusiastically support a blatantly incompetent, narcissistic, bumbling, pathological liar.

Here, you are ultimately suggesting Trump supporters are ignorant to his actions because they enjoy revelling in their victory and the opportunity to petulantly rub Trump in the face of their opposition so much. In other words... 'who cares what happens to the country as long as I get to see you mad.'

That's not exactly a ringing endorsement for credibility and respect. That being said... what's the plan? You've alluded to what the country needs? What does it need and how does it get it?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

BS44325 said:

InHiding80 said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

At least Jay Z took his hat off when he decided to sit at the head of the table in the situation room

http://swampland.time.com/2010/03/05/jay-z-and-beyonce-at-the-white-house-situation-room/

Umm.....do you see any difference in how Jay Z is dressed verses the trash that was in the oval office the other day? Any difference at all?

Yah. I was confused trying to figure out what he was getting at as well?

Who says that I am getting at anything? I have no problem with how either group is dressed. I have no problem with a mocking photo in front of Hillary. I have no problem with Jay Z taking the President's chair. None of this is a big deal...except to those who are easily triggered.

Yah... I think you were trying to suggest something giving your timing and delivery.

I couldn't give two shits Kid Rock and Ted Nugent visited the White House and exhibited their poor character there. Do people actually think those idiots would be capable of an appropriate decorum when it might be called for?

Pure comedy. Part tragedy.

We get it...they're deplorable.

We get it. You're okay with him and not Jay Z because he's white and has an R next to his name. Cool passive agressive strawman deflection brah.

I am ok with Jay Z...love that pic. Actually have most have his albums unlike the rest of you who probably only have the PJ christmas single. Can't say I'm a huge Beyoncé fan but Destiny's Child was the shit!

Lol

Oh hey wait... 'the rest of you' includes me.

Dammit. You got me. And I had my mouth open.

BS44325

The same poll that says Trump is so popular also says that in a rematch he would win the popular vote

https://twitter.com/jonkarl/status/856138742628798468

That is the bottom line number that people concerned about congressional races are interested in.

benjs

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

benjs said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

Speaking of deplorables

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/nearing-100-days-trumps-approval-at-record-lows-but-his-base-is-holding/2017/04/22/a513a466-26b4-11e7-b503-9d616bd5a305_story.html

The money quote

"Despite the public’s skepticism of Trump’s first 100 days, the survey finds little evidence voters would render a different verdict from last November, when Trump won key states needed to secure victory in the electoral college despite Clinton winning more votes nationwide."

The base is holding.

DONALD TRUMP'S LATEST APPROVAL RATINGS IN ELECTION SWING STATES SHOW HOW UNPOPULAR HE REALLY IS


http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-latest-approval-ratings-election-swing-states-588108

Let's say he has a 2% approval rating...what changes? Anything? If the answer is no, why should anyone give a shit? Seems like the only purpose of the popularity conversation is for bragging rights, to be used for being smug towards political opponents, to divide America more, which Trump supporters can rightly fixate on as their man does whatever he wants with the public focused on division and pee parties in Russia. As though that's what the country needs.

You've spoken to the notion that it's not helpful calling people morons when they enthusiastically support a blatantly incompetent, narcissistic, bumbling, pathological liar.

Here, you are ultimately suggesting Trump supporters are ignorant to his actions because they enjoy revelling in their victory and the opportunity to petulantly rub Trump in the face of their opposition so much. In other words... 'who cares what happens to the country as long as I get to see you mad.'

That's not exactly a ringing endorsement for credibility and respect. That being said... what's the plan? You've alluded to what the country needs? What does it need and how does it get it?

First, I'm sorry if that came across as a partisan attack on Trump supporters (which in retrospect I can see that it did), but I feel that the smug acknowledgment of success is very much alive on all places on the spectrum (left, right, and anywhere between) when successes are observed.

As for what the country needs, I'd argue that unity through compromise, a willingness towards experimentation in varying approaches and premises, an insistence from the public that governing be based on allegiance to the people over the party, and an attempt to create road maps towards that reality. It's common understanding that daunting tasks often remain undone because the stepping stones to arrive there are not properly identified, but I have yet to even hear of such a roadmap for reform.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

benjs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

benjs said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

Speaking of deplorables

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/nearing-100-days-trumps-approval-at-record-lows-but-his-base-is-holding/2017/04/22/a513a466-26b4-11e7-b503-9d616bd5a305_story.html

The money quote

"Despite the public’s skepticism of Trump’s first 100 days, the survey finds little evidence voters would render a different verdict from last November, when Trump won key states needed to secure victory in the electoral college despite Clinton winning more votes nationwide."

The base is holding.

DONALD TRUMP'S LATEST APPROVAL RATINGS IN ELECTION SWING STATES SHOW HOW UNPOPULAR HE REALLY IS


http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-latest-approval-ratings-election-swing-states-588108

Let's say he has a 2% approval rating...what changes? Anything? If the answer is no, why should anyone give a shit? Seems like the only purpose of the popularity conversation is for bragging rights, to be used for being smug towards political opponents, to divide America more, which Trump supporters can rightly fixate on as their man does whatever he wants with the public focused on division and pee parties in Russia. As though that's what the country needs.

You've spoken to the notion that it's not helpful calling people morons when they enthusiastically support a blatantly incompetent, narcissistic, bumbling, pathological liar.

Here, you are ultimately suggesting Trump supporters are ignorant to his actions because they enjoy revelling in their victory and the opportunity to petulantly rub Trump in the face of their opposition so much. In other words... 'who cares what happens to the country as long as I get to see you mad.'

That's not exactly a ringing endorsement for credibility and respect. That being said... what's the plan? You've alluded to what the country needs? What does it need and how does it get it?

First, I'm sorry if that came across as a partisan attack on Trump supporters (which in retrospect I can see that it did), but I feel that the smug acknowledgment of success is very much alive on all places on the spectrum (left, right, and anywhere between) when successes are observed.

As for what the country needs, I'd argue that unity through compromise, a willingness towards experimentation in varying approaches and premises, an insistence from the public that governing be based on allegiance to the people over the party, and an attempt to create road maps towards that reality. It's common understanding that daunting tasks often remain undone because the stepping stones to arrive there are not properly identified, but I have yet to even hear of such a roadmap for reform.

What you visualize would need a few things to occur. Among these things would be leadership.

Do you feel that the US has the leadership in place to facilitate such a change effort? I might be wrong, but I see the current leadership as one that seeks to take the country in the completely opposite direction from the vision you describe.

Don't get me wrong- I like your idea; however, the US is going in the opposite direction and fast.

Go Beavers

BS44325 said:

The same poll that says Trump is so popular also says that in a rematch he would win the popular vote

https://twitter.com/jonkarl/status/856138742628798468

That is the bottom line number that people concerned about congressional races are interested in.

That number just shows the residual, irrational Clinton hate. I'd like to see a trump vs. Sanders poll. Congressional candidates would also be interested in that one.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/855859245023211520

Really?

I mean... this is classic. He is a wrecking ball for earth initiatives.

ikiT

bizarroworld tweet

Halifax2TheMax

BS44325 said:

The same poll that says Trump is so popular also says that in a rematch he would win the popular vote

https://twitter.com/jonkarl/status/856138742628798468

That is the bottom line number that people concerned about congressional races are interested in.

Polls a year and a half away from an election in which the candidate you trumpet isn't running are completely meaningless. The left is actively organizing, reenergizing and reengaging. Trump has plenty of time to self destruct, show his cluelessness and be impeached. All of which will be untenable policy positions for repubs in congress. But keep holding on to your poll.

HughFreakingDillon

Go Beavers said:

The undoctored photo was leaked:

How dare you sully the good name of Negan! Hes a psycho, but he aint no racist!

The Juggler

Donald Trump is a tv obsessed idiot. This article is frightening:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/everyone-tunes-in-inside-trumps-obsession-with-cable-tv/2017/04/23/3c52bd6c-25e3-11e7-a1b3-faff0034e2de_story.html?utm_term=.0b728e7c52ac#comments

Halifax2TheMax

The Juggler said:

Donald Trump is a tv obsessed idiot. This article is frightening:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/everyone-tunes-in-inside-trumps-obsession-with-cable-tv/2017/04/23/3c52bd6c-25e3-11e7-a1b3-faff0034e2de_story.html?utm_term=.0b728e7c52ac#comments

But he is brilliant and exhibiting his brilliance on a daily basis. Plus, the impeachment ties to Russia are finally fading away.