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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,612
    edited May 2017
    OnWis97 said:
    igotid88 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Comey is a jackass, but I doubt he's as big a jackass as whoever Trump appoints will be. This could be bad.... I dunno, maybe for once he'll not make the most inappropriate choice possible?
    He's not going to put someone who will investigate him. I'd be surprised if he didn't put in a "yes" man
    Even money he puts in a relative.

    This is just awesome. Fire the guy who is in charge of investigating him.

    Supporters lost: Zero.
    I actually can hardly believe it's legal for him to do this right now. Not while there is an investigation like this. It is a glaring conflict of interest.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,657
    Its more sour grapes from, "Lock her up!" Flynn chanted it and Trump wants it, still. He's even going to release Hillary's concession phone call. Why? Because he's a petulant, vindictive, childish, egomaniac, trying to deflect the news cycle. Imagine a democrat behaving this way? If anything, it'll drive the dems and the press to press for a more thorough review of his Russian/Putin ties, which the FBI is still doing, along with the GAO. He's guilty and the cover up will be worse than the crimes of money laundering and collusion with a foreign power to influence an election. If you thought the "leaks" were bad then, just watch. The Establishment doesn't take kindly to boorish behavior.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,837
    what i find utterly hilarious in that memo to comey is 'while i appreciate you telling me on 3 separate occasions that i am not under investigation.....' knowing full well the public would see that. what a fucking jackass. who writes that in an office termination letter, never mind the president. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    How much do you wanna bet that Rudy G's name is floated soon.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,837
    mrussel1 said:
    How much do you wanna bet that Rudy G's name is floated soon.
    and then washington declares war on new york. 
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,829
    mrussel1 said:
    How much do you wanna bet that Rudy G's name is floated soon.
    My god, that would be transparent.  And I would not bet against it.
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,603
    Alright floating that they are replacing him with someone who will close the Russia probe 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,657
    mrussel1 said:
    How much do you wanna bet that Rudy G's name is floated soon.
    Or a Bridge Too Far Chris Christie.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,657
    So now Comey can divulge details, right? As long as it's not classified? It's going to get ugly.
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,438
    PJ_Soul said:
    OnWis97 said:
    igotid88 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Comey is a jackass, but I doubt he's as big a jackass as whoever Trump appoints will be. This could be bad.... I dunno, maybe for once he'll not make the most inappropriate choice possible?
    He's not going to put someone who will investigate him. I'd be surprised if he didn't put in a "yes" man
    Even money he puts in a relative.

    This is just awesome. Fire the guy who is in charge of investigating him.

    Supporters lost: Zero.
    I actually can hardly believe it's legal for him to do this right now. Not while there is an investigation like this. It is a glaring conflict of interest.
    It's an abuse of power. Clinton if he wanted to could have fired Ken Starr during the Monica investigation. 
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,438
    edited May 2017
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    So now Comey can divulge details, right? As long as it's not classified? It's going to get ugly.
    If it's not already classified. They can classify it so he can't
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    igotid88 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    OnWis97 said:
    igotid88 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Comey is a jackass, but I doubt he's as big a jackass as whoever Trump appoints will be. This could be bad.... I dunno, maybe for once he'll not make the most inappropriate choice possible?
    He's not going to put someone who will investigate him. I'd be surprised if he didn't put in a "yes" man
    Even money he puts in a relative.

    This is just awesome. Fire the guy who is in charge of investigating him.

    Supporters lost: Zero.
    I actually can hardly believe it's legal for him to do this right now. Not while there is an investigation like this. It is a glaring conflict of interest.
    It's an abuse of power. Clinton if he wanted to could have fired Ken Starr during the Monica investigation. 
    No, he was a special prosecutor assigned by the House.  Comey is a member of the Executive branch so he serves at the President's pleasure.
    Could be a blessing in disguise.  Since the new director will close the investigation, the Senate may pick it up.  So far they've been okay letting Comey run it.  Probably not anymore.  This means less police work and more hearings, subpoenas, etc.  It's possible (not probable) that this actually accelerates it.  
    It also gives Democrats another issue for 2018.
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,438
    mrussel1 said:
    igotid88 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    OnWis97 said:
    igotid88 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Comey is a jackass, but I doubt he's as big a jackass as whoever Trump appoints will be. This could be bad.... I dunno, maybe for once he'll not make the most inappropriate choice possible?
    He's not going to put someone who will investigate him. I'd be surprised if he didn't put in a "yes" man
    Even money he puts in a relative.

    This is just awesome. Fire the guy who is in charge of investigating him.

    Supporters lost: Zero.
    I actually can hardly believe it's legal for him to do this right now. Not while there is an investigation like this. It is a glaring conflict of interest.
    It's an abuse of power. Clinton if he wanted to could have fired Ken Starr during the Monica investigation. 
    No, he was a special prosecutor assigned by the House.  Comey is a member of the Executive branch so he serves at the President's pleasure.
    Could be a blessing in disguise.  Since the new director will close the investigation, the Senate may pick it up.  So far they've been okay letting Comey run it.  Probably not anymore.  This means less police work and more hearings, subpoenas, etc.  It's possible (not probable) that this actually accelerates it.  
    It also gives Democrats another issue for 2018.
    I know that he could have stopped it if he wanted. I just remember at the time people saying he could. I know he was independent. I can only hope they have independent prosecutor investigate Trump. I just don't want to put any money on Republicans doing so
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,657
    So, what's he hiding? Trump? What's he afraid of that might be revealed? How could Trump not know there were ongoing investigations? Is he that much of a dolt? Or is he that guilty?


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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,657
    Where's the brilliant spin, by the way?
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    House of Cards is more realistic than the shit we experience on a daily basis in this country....
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,657
    70% of Americans want an independent investigation of Trump and Russia's meddling in our election. It puts republicans in an untenable position. If I'm the press or an opponent in the 2018 elections, my refrain is, "what do you think Trump is hiding?" and, "why won't you appoint an independent investigator?"

    Untenable, follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to impeachment.
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,667
    igotid88 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    OnWis97 said:
    igotid88 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Comey is a jackass, but I doubt he's as big a jackass as whoever Trump appoints will be. This could be bad.... I dunno, maybe for once he'll not make the most inappropriate choice possible?
    He's not going to put someone who will investigate him. I'd be surprised if he didn't put in a "yes" man
    Even money he puts in a relative.

    This is just awesome. Fire the guy who is in charge of investigating him.

    Supporters lost: Zero.
    I actually can hardly believe it's legal for him to do this right now. Not while there is an investigation like this. It is a glaring conflict of interest.
    It's an abuse of power. Clinton if he wanted to could have fired Ken Starr during the Monica investigation. 
    It's right out of Nixon's playbook. I'm sure he's looking for the same response he got from his 'you're fired' catch phrase from hus stupid show.  
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,438
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    70% of Americans want an independent investigation of Trump and Russia's meddling in our election. It puts republicans in an untenable position. If I'm the press or an opponent in the 2018 elections, my refrain is, "what do you think Trump is hiding?" and, "why won't you appoint an independent investigator?"

    Untenable, follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to impeachment.
    I want arrests as well. Trump, Kushner, Bannon, and both sons
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    How much do you wanna bet that Rudy G's name is floated soon.
    Or a Bridge Too Far Chris Christie.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,837
    edited May 2017
    http://http//www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/05/09/jeffrey-toobin-grotesque-abuse-of-power-comey-fired-tsr.cnn
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    Fucking unreal. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,657
    The telephone call recordings must be pretty damning. And the golden shower tape comes into play now, right? Trump is too stupid to realize that D.C. Doesn't operate in the same manner as a real estate deal with shady Russian and Asian oligarchs and dictators. You're not bigger than D.C. Donald. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,657
    I find it interesting that Session's letter makes no reference to the Constitution but rather the rules and ways of the Justice Department. Typical politician's letter. Lots of fluff, no substance. And Trump's letter, "good luck in your future endeavors." You mean like leaking to the press via third parties?
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,603
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    So what happens here. Is this the beginning of the end? Or does he have complete power?

    Me? I think some good journalists get pointed in the right direction very soon. Would love for it to be Maggie Haberman from the times. 
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,837
    Cliffy6745 said:
    So what happens here. Is this the beginning of the end? Or does he have complete power?

    Me? I think some good journalists get pointed in the right direction very soon. Would love for it to be Maggie Haberman from the times. 
    the link i posted was a video of a guy on cnn making the point that this same thing that nixon did was what started to bring him down. it depends, though, if the russia ties are significant, etc. and if anyone can get hard proof of collusion. if it's just knowledge, i don't think that would do it. 

    i think too many of us are wishing too hard on a falling star here. it might take a long time to bring him down, if that ever even happens. there's a whole lot of smoke, but no one can find the fire, or even prove there is one. 

    yet. 
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    igotid88 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    70% of Americans want an independent investigation of Trump and Russia's meddling in our election. It puts republicans in an untenable position. If I'm the press or an opponent in the 2018 elections, my refrain is, "what do you think Trump is hiding?" and, "why won't you appoint an independent investigator?"

    Untenable, follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to impeachment.
    I want arrests as well. Trump, Kushner, Bannon, and both sons
    And Ivanka too. The other one seems.....oddly innocent? 
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,603
    Lol there's a grand jury 
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,214
    Cliffy6745 said:
    So what happens here. Is this the beginning of the end? Or does he have complete power?

    Me? I think some good journalists get pointed in the right direction very soon. Would love for it to be Maggie Haberman from the times. 
    my gut tells me it's the beginning of the end but i've thought that a few times already so who really knows.  i would imagine this is just going to piss off the intelligence community even more which leads me to think there will be more leaks.  i just can't see how this shit show doesn't step into shit one too many times before it all comes down. 
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,603
    I try to take things with a grain of salt, especially considering at how much I laughed at the Obama conspiracy theories buuuutttt....









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