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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    so again what does one have to do with the other?
    I think you have to put all of the pieces together rather than one..

    1. The US is retreating from area held in Turkey
    2. 50 tactical warheads are stored in Turkey 
    3. The US is now instilling sanctions on Turkey as Trump threatens to "totally destroy" the Turkish economy
    4. Turkey is being aided by Russia, as Russia has moved into areas vacated by teh US and now "patrolling areas"
    5. Turkey and the US are moving towards colder relationships
    6. Turkish troops will have complete control of the area surrounding the NATO base
    7. Removal of the nukes into US controlled space will require cooperation by the Turks and presumably Russia.  You can't airlift these out like Saigon.
    8. This makes these nukes effectively hostages.  
    I think you guys are way off base.

    big IF are the nukes still there or were they ever.

    I have a reliable source in the NATO community. They qualified their answer with yet, but have neither seen nor heard of any movement from Incirlik. And they are in a position to know.
    I don't know if we're way off or not.  But both the NY Times and the Air Force Times (site for AF members) both report that it's well known that there are 50 plus heads there.  
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-followed-his-gut-on-syria-calamity-came-fast/ar-AAILbg6

    https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2019/10/14/with-turkeys-invasion-of-syria-concerns-mount-over-nukes-at-incirlik/
    from the AF Times article,
    The presence of nuclear weapons at Incirlik, though never publicly confirmed or denied by the U.S. government, has long been essentially an open secret. It became even less of a secret earlier this year when a Canadian senator published, apparently by accident, a document containing the bases where the United States is keeping nuclear weapons.


    umm, I hope this didnt go unpunished......
    Yes, we made sure our senator got a bad spanking.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,856
    Kat said:


    I really hope Giulianni flips on tRump....
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,856
    I probably sound like a broken record but this is all fucked up.  I can't believe we haven't drug that piece of shit out of the oval office yet.  

    I don't think the Dems are lighting themselves on fire the way they should.  
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,537
    Gern Blansten said:
    I probably sound like a broken record but this is all fucked up.  I can't believe we haven't drug that piece of shit out of the oval office yet.  

    I don't think the Dems are lighting themselves on fire the way they should.  


    When you dont control the Court or the Senate your power is limited.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,673
    Its times like  this that a very famous military acronym is appropriate. .

    F.U.B.A.R.
  • dankind
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    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    Gern Blansten said:
    I probably sound like a broken record but this is all fucked up.  I can't believe we haven't drug that piece of shit out of the oval office yet.  

    I don't think the Dems are lighting themselves on fire the way they should.  

    I think they're doing okay but should be having open hearings. That would generate a lot more attention. 
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Be careful what you wish for Trumpletons.  Coming from Rand Paul is ironic too.


  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,348
    edited October 2019
    The Juggler said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I probably sound like a broken record but this is all fucked up.  I can't believe we haven't drug that piece of shit out of the oval office yet.  

    I don't think the Dems are lighting themselves on fire the way they should.  

    I think they're doing okay but should be having open hearings. That would generate a lot more attention.oopen hearings are a grandstanding
    closed hearings shut the door on grandstanding opportunities from the minority.. 
    and lets the evidence be gathered without media speculation and misdirection.

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,008
    @Kat 

    Will you be opening the democratic nominee thread or do we need a new one? We're definitely need to discuss debates and such. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,348
    mrussel1 said:
    @Kat 

    Will you be opening the democratic nominee thread or do we need a new one? We're definitely need to discuss debates and such. 
    there already is one.
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    John Bolton is part of the Deep State!

    Check his ties to the DNC!
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478

    Never-Before-Seen Trump Tax Documents Show Major Inconsistencies

    The president’s businesses made themselves appear more profitable to lenders and less profitable to tax officials. One expert calls the differing numbers “versions of fraud.”

    https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-inc-podcast-never-before-seen-trump-tax-documents-show-major-inconsistencies

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,301
    dignin said:

    Never-Before-Seen Trump Tax Documents Show Major Inconsistencies

    The president’s businesses made themselves appear more profitable to lenders and less profitable to tax officials. One expert calls the differing numbers “versions of fraud.”

    https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-inc-podcast-never-before-seen-trump-tax-documents-show-major-inconsistencies

    Of course. Did anyone expect anything different? And revenue agents always get their man. Tax and bank fraud, tax evasion and money laundering, oh my!

    “There was no collusion.”
    “I have nothing to hide.”
    “I don’t know any Russians.”
    “I’ll sit down and talk with anyone.”
    “We do everything by the book.”
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
    “Very legal, very cool.”
    “Fully exonerated.”
    “Essentially no obstruction.”
    “Very friendly and totally appropriate.”

    Follow the money from Russia with love and a PTape all the way to impeachment.

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  • mickeyrat
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dignin said:

    Never-Before-Seen Trump Tax Documents Show Major Inconsistencies

    The president’s businesses made themselves appear more profitable to lenders and less profitable to tax officials. One expert calls the differing numbers “versions of fraud.”

    https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-inc-podcast-never-before-seen-trump-tax-documents-show-major-inconsistencies

    Of course. Did anyone expect anything different? And revenue agents always get their man. Tax and bank fraud, tax evasion and money laundering, oh my!

    “There was no collusion.”
    “I have nothing to hide.”
    “I don’t know any Russians.”
    “I’ll sit down and talk with anyone.”
    “We do everything by the book.”
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
    “Very legal, very cool.”
    “Fully exonerated.”
    “Essentially no obstruction.”
    “Very friendly and totally appropriate.”

    Follow the money from Russia with love and a PTape all the way to impeachment.

    this scheme/scam has already been reported. His Bedminister club.....
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    dignin said:

    Never-Before-Seen Trump Tax Documents Show Major Inconsistencies

    The president’s businesses made themselves appear more profitable to lenders and less profitable to tax officials. One expert calls the differing numbers “versions of fraud.”

    https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-inc-podcast-never-before-seen-trump-tax-documents-show-major-inconsistencies

    All legal to do.

    Nothing done on here will lead to an arrest.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    tempo_n_groove said:
    dignin said:

    Never-Before-Seen Trump Tax Documents Show Major Inconsistencies

    The president’s businesses made themselves appear more profitable to lenders and less profitable to tax officials. One expert calls the differing numbers “versions of fraud.”

    https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-inc-podcast-never-before-seen-trump-tax-documents-show-major-inconsistencies

    All legal to do.

    Nothing done on here will lead to an arrest.
    You couldn't have read the article then. Bank/tax fraud isn't legal.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    dignin said:

    Never-Before-Seen Trump Tax Documents Show Major Inconsistencies

    The president’s businesses made themselves appear more profitable to lenders and less profitable to tax officials. One expert calls the differing numbers “versions of fraud.”

    https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-inc-podcast-never-before-seen-trump-tax-documents-show-major-inconsistencies

    All legal to do.

    Nothing done on here will lead to an arrest.
    How so?
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  • ikiT
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    https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1108486334883250178?
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  • Bentleyspop
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    ikiT said:
    https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1108486334883250178?

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