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i know I'm 6 pages late, but this is hilarious:Halifax2TheMax said:
When is it okay to label posters as advocating for violence when the person who posted did nothing of the sort and then accuse them of hiding behind something. Yea it’s fucking old when certain posters complain about the same shit they themselves do and whine about it. There’s a difference between disagreeing and coming across as sexist. That’s lost on some however.cincybearcat said:Jesus Christ when did it become ok to label other poster with labels like sex ist when you disagree with them?If you disagree you get a label. You get the “false equivalency” junk, you get all kinds of the words of the day.It’s clear some are ok with minor crimes as long as it’s their team. I get it, it’s frustrating. Id be tempted. But it’s not right. Hugh is correct and from what I’ve seen on this forums is far from a sexist. So just stop the nonsense labels.
Shall I repost all the “labels” I’ve been labeled?
Halifax2TheMax said:
"And no I’m not advocating violence, just pointing out that sometimes violence is necessary to enact the change you want to see"
I'm not going to keep arguing your sexist bullshit because that's exactly what it is, and it seems many here agree that you're totally off base with that. I guess the crazy notion of voting for someone based on merit and not gender is sexist to some. or was it because I found AOC to be annoying or something of the like (which I later actually changed my mind on)? I don't know.
Maybe AOC an Omar are sexist now too since they are endorsing Sanders instead of Warren?Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
I honestly can't recall anyone here arguing both sides are the same.cincybearcat said:
Ummm read again. The stuff I was mentioning was not trumps. Easy to read.Halifax2TheMax said:
Some keep arguing “both sides” are the “same.” I’m arguing they’re not even fucking close to being the same. Believe what you will. “Stuff?” You mean intimidation and threats of violence, right? From a POTUS as candidate and holder of the office. Or is that just “stuff” to you? Like unicorns and ice cream?cincybearcat said:
You keep trying to create a discussion no one is trying to have. Who said anything about anyone being equivalent to Trump? Just cause stuff doesn’t rise to Trumps level of nonsense doesn’t mean it isn’t nonsense itself.Halifax2TheMax said:
Can anyone post the dem equivalent? Because both sides are the same? Maybe a video of Obama calling for violence? There must be at least one of Speaker Pelosi? Surely Chuck Schumer? Definitely a current dem candidate for POTUS? Mad man Bernie!ikiT said:
and way to deflect and focus on a word instead of the actual topic. You are really good at that.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
"our team"cincybearcat said:
I’m not sure why this is a difficult concept to get.mrussel1 said:
Im not reporting the damn news. Im making a point that riots, assaults and the like allows the Republicans to claim equivalency. And then the marginally engaged voter throws up their hands and says "they're all the same". That's the point. It's not about nuanced arguments and preaching to the choir. It's about maintaining the clear moral high ground and capturing the soft votes. That's how you win. Not by taking hats from people.Merkin Baller said:
Likewise, I don’t understand your use of hyperbole from the get go muddying up the conversation. Dismissing it as saying you were “just using the terms that get used on the right” is a cop out.mrussel1 said:
Your paraphrasing is inaccurate as well.Merkin Baller said:
No apology necessary I thought it would have been obvious I was paraphrasing you, not making things up. Unlike for example suggesting the city of Minneapolis got destroyed Thursday night. Now THAT would be making something up... oh, I’m sorry, you were just “using the terms that get used on the right when given the excuse.” (Aka - right wing talking points)mrussel1 said:
I'm sorry, did you just fake quote me, declare me as a right winger and then say I'm living in a bubble? WTF kind of argument skills are you employing? Are you so disingenuous that you have to make up things? SMH.Merkin Baller said:
“It’s ok for us to compare Minneapolis to San Jose, but you’re wrong and just playing into our hands by comparing it to Charlottesville in response”mrussel1 said:
Nowhere did I say that Reason or NRO was reporting on this particular story. I'm saying that I do my best to stay out of the bubble by reading publications that I don't necessarily agree with. Regarding my "hyperbolic nonsense", I'm using terms that get used on the right when given the excuse. And you went straight to my point of defending the non peaceful (better?) protests by comparing to C'ville. It doesn't matter that C'ville was marginally worse than San Jose and much worse than Minny. If you find yourself making that argument, then you've lost the moral high ground. And today the left has the moral high ground. It needs to be protected.Merkin Baller said:
Ok, so here’s the thing: I checked National Review, and Reason, and neither one of those outlets is reporting that Minneapolis got destroyed. Nowhere have I read about wanton destruction of property and truth be told I’m not finding too many reports using the word “riot” in reference to what happened in Minneapolis two nights ago.mrussel1 said:
It's a good thing you know better then. But the reality is that I live in a world that is not a bubble. I see how moderates, indys and conservatives think and take in information. I work in financial services which is fiscally conservative by nature, but socially moderate. I read National Review, Reason, Amcon, and others. I care about winning elections. If you think destroying downtown San Jose helped the cause in 16, you're wrong. If you think destroying Minneapolis advances the cause, you're wrong. And if you're not advancing it, your're hurting it.Merkin Baller said:If I didn't know better, I would think certain people are much more concerned with right wing talking points than they are with a president whose behavior is appearing more and more treasonous with every passing day.
But hey, to each his own.
There's a huge difference in standing up for a principle and resorting to wanton destruction. Stand up for Kap. Stand up to China and the NBA. Stand up for what's right vs wrong. But destroying property isn't right and if you think a riot is a positive thing, you've lost your damned mind.
I DID read about the following:
*some isolated skirmishes and reports of punches being thrown, including one trump supporter being called a Nazi and getting punched in the back of the head - all completely unacceptable
* a trump supporter being spat on - completely unacceptable
* reports of objects being thrown at police when they attempted to disperse the crowd - completely unacceptable (USA Today reported one incident of urine being thrown, but no other outlets are reporting it - completely unacceptable if true)
* one report of a trump supporter having his maga hat stolen off his head - completely unacceptable if true
* reports of maga hats and flags being burned in the street ***
*reports of a mostly peaceful day that went sideways at the end forcing police to disperse the crowd w/ pepper spray
*several reports of a single (1) arrest and a single (1) citation for disorderly conduct being issued
(the local Fox News affiliate was one of the websites I searched for information about this story)
None of these things, or even all of them combined, come close to “destroying Minneapolis” or “wanton destruction.” (If you used that last term only in reference to maga hats being burned in protest, you’re reaching) Also, none of this even comes close to what happened in Charlottesville, if we’re going to go down the road of comparing this to other major protests in recent years.
I welcome any links you can share that may further enlighten me as to what happened Thursday night. Based on what I’ve read however, your comment appears to be little more than hyperbolic nonsense. Hyperbolic nonsense that serves Trump’s agenda by spreading misinformation about the fictional destruction of Minneapolis by “the left.”
I fully support the arrests and prosecution of anyone who broke laws Thursday night. I don’t condone violence or destruction from any political activists, regardless of their allegiance. I also don’t condone the misrepresentation of incidents through the use of hyperbole or exaggeration. If we can’t accurately discuss an incident, how can we respond proportionately?
But hey... congrats on not living in a bubble, I guess.
***I don’t support or advocate the burning of the flag, but my opinion is irrelevant considering it’s protected speech. I would imagine the same applies to the maga hats, provided they weren’t stolen. If they WERE stolen, I fully support the arrest & prosecution of the offenders.
”it’s ok for us to use hyperbolic nonsense and spread misinformation about what happened Thursday’s night, the left just needs to be better at not giving us things to lie and spread misinformation about.”
That’s some bubble you aren’t living in.
I apologize for the misuse of quotation marks, I should have made it more clear I was paraphrasing your arguments. If you want me to edit my original comment I will.
I don't understand how it's controversial to say that it's a bad idea to condone violence, even when committed by your team. Seems like pretty common sense to me.
Accurately representing something you’re suggesting is a bad idea seems like pretty common sense to me.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
If you are or I committed bank and/or tax fraud we wouldn't have anything to worry about then?tempo_n_groove said:
All legal to do.dignin said:Never-Before-Seen Trump Tax Documents Show Major Inconsistencies
The president’s businesses made themselves appear more profitable to lenders and less profitable to tax officials. One expert calls the differing numbers “versions of fraud.”
https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-inc-podcast-never-before-seen-trump-tax-documents-show-major-inconsistencies
Nothing done on here will lead to an arrest.
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It's not like Cohen or Manafort are sitting in jail convicted for those same things.The Juggler said:
If you are or I committed bank and/or tax fraud we wouldn't have anything to worry about then?tempo_n_groove said:
All legal to do.dignin said:Never-Before-Seen Trump Tax Documents Show Major Inconsistencies
The president’s businesses made themselves appear more profitable to lenders and less profitable to tax officials. One expert calls the differing numbers “versions of fraud.”
https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-inc-podcast-never-before-seen-trump-tax-documents-show-major-inconsistencies
Nothing done on here will lead to an arrest.
VERY LEGAL!
VERY COOL!
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Lie to the IRS to make it look like you have no moneyThe Juggler said:
If you are or I committed bank and/or tax fraud we wouldn't have anything to worry about then?tempo_n_groove said:
All legal to do.dignin said:Never-Before-Seen Trump Tax Documents Show Major Inconsistencies
The president’s businesses made themselves appear more profitable to lenders and less profitable to tax officials. One expert calls the differing numbers “versions of fraud.”
https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-inc-podcast-never-before-seen-trump-tax-documents-show-major-inconsistencies
Nothing done on here will lead to an arrest.
VERY LEGAL!
VERY COOL!
Lie to the banks to make it look like you have lots of money.
Why didn't I think of that??!!
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Paul Manafort lotta shady dealings with the Ukraine.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180
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Regarding AOC, you slammed her not on policy, and as you are an admitted father of daughters, I found your slam sexist and offensive because the way you slammed her, seemed to be solely on her gender and in a way that seemed her gender was the only thing responsible. My response to your post was something along the lines, “is that how you would talk to your daughters or would you have the same expectations of them as women?” And you threw a hissy fit and accused me of making you out to be some unfit parent or some shit. And then there was your deleted post. That’s hilarious because you're the one who brought it back up, after claiming the virtues of the ignore feature.HughFreakingDillon said:
i know I'm 6 pages late, but this is hilarious:Halifax2TheMax said:
When is it okay to label posters as advocating for violence when the person who posted did nothing of the sort and then accuse them of hiding behind something. Yea it’s fucking old when certain posters complain about the same shit they themselves do and whine about it. There’s a difference between disagreeing and coming across as sexist. That’s lost on some however.cincybearcat said:Jesus Christ when did it become ok to label other poster with labels like sex ist when you disagree with them?If you disagree you get a label. You get the “false equivalency” junk, you get all kinds of the words of the day.It’s clear some are ok with minor crimes as long as it’s their team. I get it, it’s frustrating. Id be tempted. But it’s not right. Hugh is correct and from what I’ve seen on this forums is far from a sexist. So just stop the nonsense labels.
Shall I repost all the “labels” I’ve been labeled?
Halifax2TheMax said:
"And no I’m not advocating violence, just pointing out that sometimes violence is necessary to enact the change you want to see"
I'm not going to keep arguing your sexist bullshit because that's exactly what it is, and it seems many here agree that you're totally off base with that. I guess the crazy notion of voting for someone based on merit and not gender is sexist to some. or was it because I found AOC to be annoying or something of the like (which I later actually changed my mind on)? I don't know.
Maybe AOC an Omar are sexist now too since they are endorsing Sanders instead of Warren?
Regarding violence, as a privileged white male, I don’t feel the need to advocate for or act violently for the change I want to see. I can’t say that for others, particularly oppressed minorities. You seem to have difficulty drawing distinctions between top down advocacy for violence, Team Trump Treason style, his minions and their lack of condemnation of same and bottom up, organic or not, what has been deemed, on here anyway, “the left.” One is authoritarian and “state” sanctioned and the other is "knuckle heads" acting up. Again, you claimed both sides are the same or that by doing so, they would be. And yes, sometimes violence perpetrated by the downtrodden and oppressed is necessary for things to change. Particularly when peaceful and lawful means have resulted in zero change. Those MAGA hats elicit a pretty strong emotional response from me but not one that would lead me to swipe it off someone's head, spit in their face or otherwise do anything violent or intimidating. I can't say the same for someone who had a family member beaten in a Charlottesville parking garage or detained or their relative kids separated at the border or their pussy grabbed. To think violence isn't sometimes necessary, or justified, is to ignore history. I can understand the distinction, can you?
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I said I found her annoying on twitter. THAT. WAS. IT. and you took that all the way to me being sexist, which, as we know, is absolute bullshit. and how many months ago was that? jesus, come up with some new material.Halifax2TheMax said:
Regarding AOC, you slammed her not on policy, and as you are an admitted father of daughters, I found your slam sexist and offensive because the way you slammed her, seemed to be solely on her gender and in a way that seemed her gender was the only thing responsible. My response to your post was something along the lines, “is that how you would talk to your daughters or would you have the same expectations of them as women?” And you threw a hissy fit and accused me of making you out to be some unfit parent or some shit. And then there was your deleted post. That’s hilarious because you're the one who brought it back up, after claiming the virtues of the ignore feature.HughFreakingDillon said:
i know I'm 6 pages late, but this is hilarious:Halifax2TheMax said:
When is it okay to label posters as advocating for violence when the person who posted did nothing of the sort and then accuse them of hiding behind something. Yea it’s fucking old when certain posters complain about the same shit they themselves do and whine about it. There’s a difference between disagreeing and coming across as sexist. That’s lost on some however.cincybearcat said:Jesus Christ when did it become ok to label other poster with labels like sex ist when you disagree with them?If you disagree you get a label. You get the “false equivalency” junk, you get all kinds of the words of the day.It’s clear some are ok with minor crimes as long as it’s their team. I get it, it’s frustrating. Id be tempted. But it’s not right. Hugh is correct and from what I’ve seen on this forums is far from a sexist. So just stop the nonsense labels.
Shall I repost all the “labels” I’ve been labeled?
Halifax2TheMax said:
"And no I’m not advocating violence, just pointing out that sometimes violence is necessary to enact the change you want to see"
I'm not going to keep arguing your sexist bullshit because that's exactly what it is, and it seems many here agree that you're totally off base with that. I guess the crazy notion of voting for someone based on merit and not gender is sexist to some. or was it because I found AOC to be annoying or something of the like (which I later actually changed my mind on)? I don't know.
Maybe AOC an Omar are sexist now too since they are endorsing Sanders instead of Warren?
Regarding violence, as a privileged white male, I don’t feel the need to advocate for or act violently for the change I want to see. I can’t say that for others, particularly oppressed minorities. You seem to have difficulty drawing distinctions between top down advocacy for violence, Team Trump Treason style, his minions and their lack of condemnation of same and bottom up, organic or not, what has been deemed, on here anyway, “the left.” One is authoritarian and “state” sanctioned and the other is "knuckle heads" acting up. Again, you claimed both sides are the same or that by doing so, they would be. And yes, sometimes violence perpetrated by the downtrodden and oppressed is necessary for things to change. Particularly when peaceful and lawful means have resulted in zero change. Those MAGA hats elicit a pretty strong emotional response from me but not one that would lead me to swipe it off someone's head, spit in their face or otherwise do anything violent or intimidating. I can't say the same for someone who had a family member beaten in a Charlottesville parking garage or detained or their relative kids separated at the border or their pussy grabbed. To think violence isn't sometimes necessary, or justified, is to ignore history. I can understand the distinction, can you?
AOC and Omar are throwing their support behind the candidate that most closely aligns with their beliefs. Or maybe its sexists?
I also don't give a fuck what gender you are when I vote. man better than woman? I vote man. woman better than man? I vote woman. voting for a woman based on nothing but her gender is sexism. chachi.
what deleted post? sorry, I don't keep forum notes.
I didn't have a "hissy" fit. I took issue with you taking a jab at me (and coming from the biggest "you disagree with me so I'm going to call you names/labels" whiner on the forum, that's rich). yes, I have mentioned I have daughters. That doesn't give you carte blanche to start making personal statements about them or me. I was annoyed, yes, but I don't get triggered by your bullshit anymore.
never claimed both sides are the same. never. never as much as implied it. but keep saying it. someday you might get your wish and it will magically make it true. I didn't get an attendance sheet, but I haven't heard of any of the people there at that rally committing assault had been, or had family members, in charlottesville.
violence is only necessary when personally threatened with such. Not just because someone is wearing shitty read hats.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
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Triggered, bahahahajhahahaha! New material? You’re the one who resurrected the past. Lol! Have a great evening!HughFreakingDillon said:
I said I found her annoying on twitter. THAT. WAS. IT. and you took that all the way to me being sexist, which, as we know, is absolute bullshit. and how many months ago was that? jesus, come up with some new material.Halifax2TheMax said:
Regarding AOC, you slammed her not on policy, and as you are an admitted father of daughters, I found your slam sexist and offensive because the way you slammed her, seemed to be solely on her gender and in a way that seemed her gender was the only thing responsible. My response to your post was something along the lines, “is that how you would talk to your daughters or would you have the same expectations of them as women?” And you threw a hissy fit and accused me of making you out to be some unfit parent or some shit. And then there was your deleted post. That’s hilarious because you're the one who brought it back up, after claiming the virtues of the ignore feature.HughFreakingDillon said:
i know I'm 6 pages late, but this is hilarious:Halifax2TheMax said:
When is it okay to label posters as advocating for violence when the person who posted did nothing of the sort and then accuse them of hiding behind something. Yea it’s fucking old when certain posters complain about the same shit they themselves do and whine about it. There’s a difference between disagreeing and coming across as sexist. That’s lost on some however.cincybearcat said:Jesus Christ when did it become ok to label other poster with labels like sex ist when you disagree with them?If you disagree you get a label. You get the “false equivalency” junk, you get all kinds of the words of the day.It’s clear some are ok with minor crimes as long as it’s their team. I get it, it’s frustrating. Id be tempted. But it’s not right. Hugh is correct and from what I’ve seen on this forums is far from a sexist. So just stop the nonsense labels.
Shall I repost all the “labels” I’ve been labeled?
Halifax2TheMax said:
"And no I’m not advocating violence, just pointing out that sometimes violence is necessary to enact the change you want to see"
I'm not going to keep arguing your sexist bullshit because that's exactly what it is, and it seems many here agree that you're totally off base with that. I guess the crazy notion of voting for someone based on merit and not gender is sexist to some. or was it because I found AOC to be annoying or something of the like (which I later actually changed my mind on)? I don't know.
Maybe AOC an Omar are sexist now too since they are endorsing Sanders instead of Warren?
Regarding violence, as a privileged white male, I don’t feel the need to advocate for or act violently for the change I want to see. I can’t say that for others, particularly oppressed minorities. You seem to have difficulty drawing distinctions between top down advocacy for violence, Team Trump Treason style, his minions and their lack of condemnation of same and bottom up, organic or not, what has been deemed, on here anyway, “the left.” One is authoritarian and “state” sanctioned and the other is "knuckle heads" acting up. Again, you claimed both sides are the same or that by doing so, they would be. And yes, sometimes violence perpetrated by the downtrodden and oppressed is necessary for things to change. Particularly when peaceful and lawful means have resulted in zero change. Those MAGA hats elicit a pretty strong emotional response from me but not one that would lead me to swipe it off someone's head, spit in their face or otherwise do anything violent or intimidating. I can't say the same for someone who had a family member beaten in a Charlottesville parking garage or detained or their relative kids separated at the border or their pussy grabbed. To think violence isn't sometimes necessary, or justified, is to ignore history. I can understand the distinction, can you?
AOC and Omar are throwing their support behind the candidate that most closely aligns with their beliefs. Or maybe its sexists?
I also don't give a fuck what gender you are when I vote. man better than woman? I vote man. woman better than man? I vote woman. voting for a woman based on nothing but her gender is sexism. chachi.
what deleted post? sorry, I don't keep forum notes.
I didn't have a "hissy" fit. I took issue with you taking a jab at me (and coming from the biggest "you disagree with me so I'm going to call you names/labels" whiner on the forum, that's rich). yes, I have mentioned I have daughters. That doesn't give you carte blanche to start making personal statements about them or me. I was annoyed, yes, but I don't get triggered by your bullshit anymore.
never claimed both sides are the same. never. never as much as implied it. but keep saying it. someday you might get your wish and it will magically make it true. I didn't get an attendance sheet, but I haven't heard of any of the people there at that rally committing assault had been, or had family members, in charlottesville.
violence is only necessary when personally threatened with such. Not just because someone is wearing shitty read hats.
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thisdankind said:I think there are plenty of good people in America, but there are also plenty of bad people in America and the bad ones are the ones who seem to have all the power and be in these positions to block things that you and I need. Because this is the situation, you and I have to preserve the right to do what is necessary to bring an end to that situation, and it doesn't mean that I advocate violence, but at the same time I am not against using violence in self-defense. I don't even call it violence when it's self-defense, I call it intelligence.
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