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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,824
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    honestly, I believe graham here. tone deaf? 100%. but he think he probably thought no one would actually believe he meant that sincerely. 
    I tend to agree.  But if his opponent seizes on it and it helps him, that's fine by me. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    DewieCox said:
    mrussel1 said:
    DewieCox said:
    Sure reads like they are. From my perspective, we’re riding a snowball towards authoritarianism. The similarities to the Nazi regime aren’t subtle and half the country is complicit or too dense to pick up on it.
    I disagree.  The most important factor in Germany's slide into it was the rampant unemployment and run away inflation.  They had massive war reparations as well.  The economic situation isn't even in the ball park. 
    Seems like the willingness of a populace to accept that specific demographics are inherently weaker and the cause of a country’s decline  is a pretty important factor. Willingness to weaponize said populace against other citizens. Our economic system is easily dysfunctional enough to encourage upheaval. Blind nationalism and a leader willing to feed it and exploit it..... 
    The attack on Jews in Europe had been happening for centuries.  There had been multiple pogroms across the continent.  So blaming the Jews for the loss of the Great War, Versailles and the general woes of the country was easy exploitation.  There is a not a massive, virulent strain of anti-Mexican fervor in this country.  
    I see hints of things here and there where one could conclude authoritarianism is coming, but I put it in the same boat as those saying Civil War is imminent.  The economic conditions just simply do not lead to that end.  
    You need to factor in wealth disparity, automation of jobs, globalization and the age of social media (among other things). Trying to compare this current possible authoritarianism with past authoritarianism isn't really giving this current threat it's due. 
    We have wealth disparity,  but that's not abject poverty.  
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    OnWis97 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    honestly, I believe graham here. tone deaf? 100%. but he think he probably thought no one would actually believe he meant that sincerely. 
    I tend to agree.  But if his opponent seizes on it and it helps him, that's fine by me. 
    100%. graham has shown his true colours by joining Cult 45. he's a sickening human being. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    DewieCox said:
    mrussel1 said:
    DewieCox said:
    Sure reads like they are. From my perspective, we’re riding a snowball towards authoritarianism. The similarities to the Nazi regime aren’t subtle and half the country is complicit or too dense to pick up on it.
    I disagree.  The most important factor in Germany's slide into it was the rampant unemployment and run away inflation.  They had massive war reparations as well.  The economic situation isn't even in the ball park. 
    Seems like the willingness of a populace to accept that specific demographics are inherently weaker and the cause of a country’s decline  is a pretty important factor. Willingness to weaponize said populace against other citizens. Our economic system is easily dysfunctional enough to encourage upheaval. Blind nationalism and a leader willing to feed it and exploit it..... 
    The attack on Jews in Europe had been happening for centuries.  There had been multiple pogroms across the continent.  So blaming the Jews for the loss of the Great War, Versailles and the general woes of the country was easy exploitation.  There is a not a massive, virulent strain of anti-Mexican fervor in this country.  
    I see hints of things here and there where one could conclude authoritarianism is coming, but I put it in the same boat as those saying Civil War is imminent.  The economic conditions just simply do not lead to that end.  
    You need to factor in wealth disparity, automation of jobs, globalization and the age of social media (among other things). Trying to compare this current possible authoritarianism with past authoritarianism isn't really giving this current threat it's due. 
    We have wealth disparity,  but that's not abject poverty.  
    What do you consider “abject poverty?” One in five children going hungry everyday? Does the US national debt in this age equate to Germany’s debt/reparations burden as a % of GDP in the lead up to WWII?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    DewieCox said:
    mrussel1 said:
    DewieCox said:
    Sure reads like they are. From my perspective, we’re riding a snowball towards authoritarianism. The similarities to the Nazi regime aren’t subtle and half the country is complicit or too dense to pick up on it.
    I disagree.  The most important factor in Germany's slide into it was the rampant unemployment and run away inflation.  They had massive war reparations as well.  The economic situation isn't even in the ball park. 
    Seems like the willingness of a populace to accept that specific demographics are inherently weaker and the cause of a country’s decline  is a pretty important factor. Willingness to weaponize said populace against other citizens. Our economic system is easily dysfunctional enough to encourage upheaval. Blind nationalism and a leader willing to feed it and exploit it..... 
    The attack on Jews in Europe had been happening for centuries.  There had been multiple pogroms across the continent.  So blaming the Jews for the loss of the Great War, Versailles and the general woes of the country was easy exploitation.  There is a not a massive, virulent strain of anti-Mexican fervor in this country.  
    I see hints of things here and there where one could conclude authoritarianism is coming, but I put it in the same boat as those saying Civil War is imminent.  The economic conditions just simply do not lead to that end.  
    You need to factor in wealth disparity, automation of jobs, globalization and the age of social media (among other things). Trying to compare this current possible authoritarianism with past authoritarianism isn't really giving this current threat it's due. 
    We have wealth disparity,  but that's not abject poverty.  
    What do you consider “abject poverty?” One in five children going hungry everyday? Does the US national debt in this age equate to Germany’s debt/reparations burden as a % of GDP in the lead up to WWII?
    Compared to the conditions in Europe in the early 20th century,  world of difference.  There was civil unrest constantly before and after the first war all over the continent.  It was spurred by poverty and Marxism.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    DewieCox said:
    mrussel1 said:
    DewieCox said:
    Sure reads like they are. From my perspective, we’re riding a snowball towards authoritarianism. The similarities to the Nazi regime aren’t subtle and half the country is complicit or too dense to pick up on it.
    I disagree.  The most important factor in Germany's slide into it was the rampant unemployment and run away inflation.  They had massive war reparations as well.  The economic situation isn't even in the ball park. 
    Seems like the willingness of a populace to accept that specific demographics are inherently weaker and the cause of a country’s decline  is a pretty important factor. Willingness to weaponize said populace against other citizens. Our economic system is easily dysfunctional enough to encourage upheaval. Blind nationalism and a leader willing to feed it and exploit it..... 
    The attack on Jews in Europe had been happening for centuries.  There had been multiple pogroms across the continent.  So blaming the Jews for the loss of the Great War, Versailles and the general woes of the country was easy exploitation.  There is a not a massive, virulent strain of anti-Mexican fervor in this country.  
    I see hints of things here and there where one could conclude authoritarianism is coming, but I put it in the same boat as those saying Civil War is imminent.  The economic conditions just simply do not lead to that end.  
    You need to factor in wealth disparity, automation of jobs, globalization and the age of social media (among other things). Trying to compare this current possible authoritarianism with past authoritarianism isn't really giving this current threat it's due. 
    We have wealth disparity,  but that's not abject poverty.  
    What do you consider “abject poverty?” One in five children going hungry everyday? Does the US national debt in this age equate to Germany’s debt/reparations burden as a % of GDP in the lead up to WWII?
    Compared to the conditions in Europe in the early 20th century,  world of difference.  There was civil unrest constantly before and after the first war all over the continent.  It was spurred by poverty and Marxism.
    I get that but one could argue that we have very similar circumstances here. It may not be 1939 yet but it could be 1933-1934. And south of the border is looking pretty unsettled, as are other places far over the horizon, in this digital, interconnected global economy.
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    The Simple Radicals. I think this goes right here. :)

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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,161
    good thing trump saved my subdivision from the scary low income housing....
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    Unlawful entry at our governor’s house in town today while his wife and daughter were home, and the rally folk plan on camping out in front of his residence tonight. So glad to be his neighbor these days. 

    He’s a republican, BTW. Just not a Trump republican. 

    Good people. 
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,824
    dankind said:
    Unlawful entry at our governor’s house in town today while his wife and daughter were home, and the rally folk plan on camping out in front of his residence tonight. So glad to be his neighbor these days. 

    He’s a republican, BTW. Just not a Trump republican. 

    Good people. 
    Massachusetts?
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    ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,633
    dankind said:
    Unlawful entry at our governor’s house in town today while his wife and daughter were home, and the rally folk plan on camping out in front of his residence tonight. So glad to be his neighbor these days. 

    He’s a republican, BTW. Just not a Trump republican. 

    Good people. 
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    OnWis97 said:
    dankind said:
    Unlawful entry at our governor’s house in town today while his wife and daughter were home, and the rally folk plan on camping out in front of his residence tonight. So glad to be his neighbor these days. 

    He’s a republican, BTW. Just not a Trump republican. 

    Good people. 
    Massachusetts?
    Yep. 
    ed243421 said:
    dankind said:
    Unlawful entry at our governor’s house in town today while his wife and daughter were home, and the rally folk plan on camping out in front of his residence tonight. So glad to be his neighbor these days. 

    He’s a republican, BTW. Just not a Trump republican. 

    Good people. 
    Trash night??
    Yep. 
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,824
    This probably won’t be long remembered but it’s really one of the worst things I’ve ever seen. He is in Iowa complaining that the news was talking about Iowa floods in crops rather than his Nobel prize nomination. What a sad sad man.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/meiselasb/status/1316553831887454209
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,969
    I've said it somewhere on here before, but I cannot stress enough how you should watch The Comey Rule on Showtime before the election.


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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,547
    OnWis97 said:
    This probably won’t be long remembered but it’s really one of the worst things I’ve ever seen. He is in Iowa complaining that the news was talking about Iowa floods in crops rather than his Nobel prize nomination. What a sad sad man.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/meiselasb/status/1316553831887454209
     But what's sadder?

    The sad man?

    Or


    The supporters/voters who agree with him?
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9Y-lS1trhw
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    DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,412
    OnWis97 said:
    This probably won’t be long remembered but it’s really one of the worst things I’ve ever seen. He is in Iowa complaining that the news was talking about Iowa floods in crops rather than his Nobel prize nomination. What a sad sad man.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/meiselasb/status/1316553831887454209
    Almost had them there. Watch the guy over his left shoulder. 😂😂 you could almost see those gear start turning
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    OnWis97 said:
    This probably won’t be long remembered but it’s really one of the worst things I’ve ever seen. He is in Iowa complaining that the news was talking about Iowa floods in crops rather than his Nobel prize nomination. What a sad sad man.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/meiselasb/status/1316553831887454209
    my god. he still thinks getting nominated is the same as actually being awarded. what a fucking moron. 
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,969

    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    Gern Blansten said:

    I'd be surprised to hear of a rule or law they follow.
    You can't destroy democracy from within if you're following the laws of our country.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,969
    Twitter does not fuck around.  I am currently unable to like, retweet, comment, etc. there for some reason.  
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

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    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    edited October 2020
    Just came in over my phone that Senate Republicans want to subpoena Twitter's Dorsey over blocked Biden stories. I thought our intel/security people said the documents were forged and being spread by Russia?
    Gern, maybe if you log out and then back in?
    Post edited by Kat on
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    Gern Blansten said:

    I learned a new word today and I think it fits the description of every living thing in the White House, currently.

    trumpery

     noun

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    trum·​pery | \ ˈtrəm-p(ə-)rē  \

    Definition of trumpery

    1a: worthless nonsense
    b: trivial or useless articles : JUNKa wagon loaded with household trumpery— Washington Irving
    2archaic : tawdry finery
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,969
    Kat said:
    Just came in over my phone that Senate Republicans want to subpoena Twitter's Dorsey over blocked Biden stories. I thought our intel/security people said the documents were forged and being spread by Russia?
    Gern, maybe if you log out and then back in?
    doesn't work...changed my password two different times too

    Yeah the Senate was all over twitter but can't do anything to stop Russian interference....which is why twitter is cracking down
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,547
    Gern Blansten said:
    Kat said:
    Just came in over my phone that Senate Republicans want to subpoena Twitter's Dorsey over blocked Biden stories. I thought our intel/security people said the documents were forged and being spread by Russia?
    Gern, maybe if you log out and then back in?
    doesn't work...changed my password two different times too

    Yeah the Senate was all over twitter but can't do anything to stop Russian interference....which is why twitter is cracking down
    Its not so much that the senate CAN'T  do anything about russian interference. 
    It's that at least 53 senators DON'T CARE about russian interference. 
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    edited October 2020
    Gern Blansten said:
    Kat said:
    Just came in over my phone that Senate Republicans want to subpoena Twitter's Dorsey over blocked Biden stories. I thought our intel/security people said the documents were forged and being spread by Russia?
    Gern, maybe if you log out and then back in?
    doesn't work...changed my password two different times too

    Yeah the Senate was all over twitter but can't do anything to stop Russian interference....which is why twitter is cracking down
    Did you try clearing your cookies? And I agree, Pop, they don't care. They think it will help them to have foreign interference in our elections...a very sad state of affairs and treasonous as far as I'm concerned. 
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,547
    Kat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Kat said:
    Just came in over my phone that Senate Republicans want to subpoena Twitter's Dorsey over blocked Biden stories. I thought our intel/security people said the documents were forged and being spread by Russia?
    Gern, maybe if you log out and then back in?
    doesn't work...changed my password two different times too

    Yeah the Senate was all over twitter but can't do anything to stop Russian interference....which is why twitter is cracking down
    Did you try clearing your cookies? And I agree, Pop, they don't care. They think it will help them to have foreign interference in our elections...a very sad state of affairs and treasonous as far as I'm concerned. 
    I agree that it is treasonous. 
    But....
    republican politicians and voters DON'T CARE as long as gods gift continues to claim to be a forced birther and against gun control.
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,495
    Treason seems to be the word of the day. 

    https://https://stoehr.substack.com/p/for-gop-the-highest-taboo-is-no-longer

    & upwards of 40 percent of the country doesn’t care because they’re too interested in owning libs. 
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    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/521254-doj-veteran-says-hes-quitting-over-barrs-slavish-obedience-to-trump?fbclid=IwAR3TNHy4k5s5l_ydBUaANOqL5YJuw1HVtHurcqA-224qru6Qw7sNLb4hTYc&fbclid=IwAR0J6aq5EVwq_3PCtC22UcRL6jedohxpABHDYZYfP7dtuCg7JvFtTfPUZ0o

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    mrussel1 said:
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    dignin said:
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    DewieCox said:
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    DewieCox said:
    Sure reads like they are. From my perspective, we’re riding a snowball towards authoritarianism. The similarities to the Nazi regime aren’t subtle and half the country is complicit or too dense to pick up on it.
    I disagree.  The most important factor in Germany's slide into it was the rampant unemployment and run away inflation.  They had massive war reparations as well.  The economic situation isn't even in the ball park. 
    Seems like the willingness of a populace to accept that specific demographics are inherently weaker and the cause of a country’s decline  is a pretty important factor. Willingness to weaponize said populace against other citizens. Our economic system is easily dysfunctional enough to encourage upheaval. Blind nationalism and a leader willing to feed it and exploit it..... 
    The attack on Jews in Europe had been happening for centuries.  There had been multiple pogroms across the continent.  So blaming the Jews for the loss of the Great War, Versailles and the general woes of the country was easy exploitation.  There is a not a massive, virulent strain of anti-Mexican fervor in this country.  
    I see hints of things here and there where one could conclude authoritarianism is coming, but I put it in the same boat as those saying Civil War is imminent.  The economic conditions just simply do not lead to that end.  
    You need to factor in wealth disparity, automation of jobs, globalization and the age of social media (among other things). Trying to compare this current possible authoritarianism with past authoritarianism isn't really giving this current threat it's due. 
    We have wealth disparity,  but that's not abject poverty.  
    What do you consider “abject poverty?” One in five children going hungry everyday? Does the US national debt in this age equate to Germany’s debt/reparations burden as a % of GDP in the lead up to WWII?
    Compared to the conditions in Europe in the early 20th century,  world of difference.  There was civil unrest constantly before and after the first war all over the continent.  It was spurred by poverty and Marxism.
    Is this not what is "spurring" things today? It may not be September 1, 1939 but the conditions to get there seem to be moving along quite nicely, dontcha think? Replace Marxism with Fascism too. 

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