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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Somebody give me the quick hits on what's behind the paywall?
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,338

    Trump Told Ukraine’s Leader to Work With Barr to Investigate Biden


    The director of national intelligence and the inspector general for the intelligence community each referred a whistle-blower’s concerns about the call for a possible criminal investigation into the president's actions, according to a Justice Department official.

    Law enforcement officials reviewed the matters and declined to open an inquiry, the official said.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/25/us/politics/ukraine-transcript-trump.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,338
    rgambs said:
    Somebody give me the quick hits on what's behind the paywall?
    Clear your cookies in your history. You will have access.
  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    Still going on about Hillary's emails too.

    he f#@ked
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    No quid pro quo yet, unfortunately.
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,057
    BARRBARRBARR
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,942
    This is crazy....fucking Barr will have to step aside or something.  How can he possibly decide whether or not people need to be charged when he is mentioned in this fucking phone call?  Fucking crazy.
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  • Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    edited September 2019
    rgambs said:
    No quid pro quo yet, unfortunately.
    Not sure the law requires that, I think he already broke laws by his own admissions. IDK, but yeah, that would be another  fruit on the poisonous  tree.
    Post edited by Hi! on

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,046
    rgambs said:
    No quid pro quo yet, unfortunately.
    offered to meet with the foreign leader at the White House after he promised to conduct such an inquiry, according to a newly-released transcript of the call.
    Is it as blatant as I'll send you the 391?  No, but he's not THAT stupid.  This is impeachable, I believe.  And I've been fairly conservative on this front.  

    Check your IM btw.  
  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,057
    edited September 2019
    28 tweets in 24 hours.  Totally normal. 

    Admitting that shit out loud.      he fucked yo
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    No quid pro quo yet, unfortunately.
    offered to meet with the foreign leader at the White House after he promised to conduct such an inquiry, according to a newly-released transcript of the call.
    Is it as blatant as I'll send you the 391?  No, but he's not THAT stupid.  This is impeachable, I believe.  And I've been fairly conservative on this front.  

    Check your IM btw.  
    Yes, thank you for that.
    The thing I don't like is that the Mueller Report was a slam dunk to rational folks and based on previous precedent, but the smocking gun needed to take the cult of Trump is going to have to be ridiculously irrefutable.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,601
    rgambs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    No quid pro quo yet, unfortunately.
    offered to meet with the foreign leader at the White House after he promised to conduct such an inquiry, according to a newly-released transcript of the call.
    Is it as blatant as I'll send you the 391?  No, but he's not THAT stupid.  This is impeachable, I believe.  And I've been fairly conservative on this front.  

    Check your IM btw.  
    Yes, thank you for that.
    The thing I don't like is that the Mueller Report was a slam dunk to rational folks and based on previous precedent, but the smocking gun needed to take the cult of Trump is going to have to be ridiculously irrefutable.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,942
    I keep reading that this isn't a true transcript.  It's a memo about the call. 

    Also...we haven't seen the whistleblower report yet.

    He's fucked.  Bringing in Barr to the conversation totally fucked him.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,510
    do you believe anyone will comply with Congress for this inquiry?

    I dont. See what SCOTUS has to say before long.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,966
    Gern Blansten said:
    I keep reading that this isn't a true transcript.  It's a memo about the call. 

    Also...we haven't seen the whistleblower report yet.

    He's fucked.  Bringing in Barr to the conversation totally fucked him.
    Correct. The WaPo article specifically mentioned these were notes based on those present in the room. Even a word for word transcript is light years different than hearing the actual audio and how he framed the things mentioned.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,046
    rgambs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    No quid pro quo yet, unfortunately.
    offered to meet with the foreign leader at the White House after he promised to conduct such an inquiry, according to a newly-released transcript of the call.
    Is it as blatant as I'll send you the 391?  No, but he's not THAT stupid.  This is impeachable, I believe.  And I've been fairly conservative on this front.  

    Check your IM btw.  
    Yes, thank you for that.
    The thing I don't like is that the Mueller Report was a slam dunk to rational folks and based on previous precedent, but the smocking gun needed to take the cult of Trump is going to have to be ridiculously irrefutable.
    Mueller was long, complex, and the report was underwhelming.  This is an easier to follow situation, it's fresh, no indy counsel.  Last, maybe most importantly, it was done as the president.  He is doing this in official capacity which is corrupt on its face.  I do believe voting Americans can distinguish the two.  
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,500
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    No quid pro quo yet, unfortunately.
    offered to meet with the foreign leader at the White House after he promised to conduct such an inquiry, according to a newly-released transcript of the call.
    Is it as blatant as I'll send you the 391?  No, but he's not THAT stupid.  This is impeachable, I believe.  And I've been fairly conservative on this front.  

    Check your IM btw.  
    Yes, thank you for that.
    The thing I don't like is that the Mueller Report was a slam dunk to rational folks and based on previous precedent, but the smocking gun needed to take the cult of Trump is going to have to be ridiculously irrefutable.
    Mueller was long, complex, and the report was underwhelming.  This is an easier to follow situation, it's fresh, no indy counsel.  Last, maybe most importantly, it was done as the president.  He is doing this in official capacity which is corrupt on its face.  I do believe voting Americans can distinguish the two.  
    Originally we had a president failing to protect our elections by holding a foreign adversary accountable for election meddling in 2016.

    Now we have a president asking a foreign country to participate in election meddling in an upcoming election.  

    Both awful.  1st one is the offense I wish would have him removed, but I'll settle for the 2nd.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,582
    he's easily the dumbest president in history. 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,492
    DOJ says there is nothing to prosecute.

    Will dems still push tp impeach?
  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    LOL.

    The 'Justice' Department
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,046
    tempo_n_groove said:
    DOJ says there is nothing to prosecute.

    Will dems still push tp impeach?
    Because the DOJ says there's nothing to prosecute?  I don't think the DOJ decision matters one iota.  First, the DOJ is overtly political.  Second, the DOJ declined on criminal charges.  Impeachment articles are not limited to criminal activity nor is the burden of proof "beyond a reasonable doubt".  So the DOJ decision means literally nothing.  
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,492
    Smellyman said:
    LOL.

    The 'Justice' Department
    More like injustice...
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,582
    wow. I am actually getting excited now. 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,650
    This is what I hear when people say The Fixer is a great song:


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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,582
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    This is what I hear when people say The Fixer is a great song:


    that's what I hear when people say they like Kiss. 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,650
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    This is what I hear when people say The Fixer is a great song:


    that's what I hear when people say they like Kiss. 
    Sounds reasonable. 
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  • Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    How crazy is it that Trump is meeting with Ukraine’s President today? I don’t think it should be allowed, seems like tampering with witnesses.

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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,057
    Jesus H. Christ.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,909
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    he's easily the dumbest president in history. 
    Then that makes his advisers, believers,supporters, and voters the dumbest as well
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,198
    edited September 2019
    Hi! said:
    How crazy is it that Trump is meeting with Ukraine’s President today? I don’t think it should be allowed, seems like tampering with witnesses.
    You know folks, people try tampering. They say oh I’ll just smudge the truth a bit here. I say they’re not going far enough. You know, the thing is, the Democrats will tell you they’re the honest ones. I say to them, that’s great but what are you doing about the llama crisis in Indonesia? And then I said Mitch, Mitch we’ve got em. And so that’s why I bought Melania that sweater, and why it’s so crystal clear this is all FAKE NEWS! No obstruction, no collusion! 

    Edit: in case it’s not clear (and sadly I realized it’s not), Trump didn’t actually say this.
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