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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    I'm getting a bit tired of the constant barrage of "the walls are closing in", "this is different than last time", "trump is melting down", "this is significant" comments. All those things have been happening, depending on who you talk to, since Jan 20/17. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,949
    mrussel1 said:
    Trump also tested out a new excuse today.. that the other countries are not doing enough.  I heard a contra-stat that European countries have sent 16.5 billion in aid to Ukraine since the Crimea incident.  This allocation from Congress was less than 400 million.  So...there's that.  
    yeah and wouldn't the "tough guy" approach be to make his intention well known?  Telling Ukraine that he wants others to put up more money doesn't do anything.  
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,949
    https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1176543508771069952


    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    Gern Blansten said:
    https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1176543508771069952


    When I first heard the one on the left yesterday, I was surprised a bolt of lightning hadn't come down on his head. 
    It's Bizarro World. 
    Falling down,...not staying down
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    Ghouliani going all brilliant brilliance of brilliancy.

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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,949
    Now tRump says he will release the transcript tomorrow.  
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,626
    We need an "Infrastructure Week".  
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    Gern Blansten said:
    Now tRump says he will release the transcript tomorrow.  
    With or without redactions? For “executive privilege” or “national security/attorney-client privilege?”
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007

    Trump is Nixon

    in case you forgot...


    https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/23/opinions/trump-is-nixon-but-with-more-chutzpah-dantonio/index.html
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,113
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I'm getting a bit tired of the constant barrage of "the walls are closing in", "this is different than last time", "trump is melting down", "this is significant" comments. All those things have been happening, depending on who you talk to, since Jan 20/17. 

    Please tell it to r/politics. 

    Damn it they say that stuff overwhelmingly on there.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,626
    As a one Edward Vedder once said in NY MSG.... "and away....we go"...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/pelosi-top-democrats-privately-discuss-creation-of-select-committee-for-impeachment/2019/09/24/af6f735a-dedf-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    It's about time. All the ignoring of subpoenas, lying, obstruction. I won't believe a soul-eater transcript either. I want to see the whistleblower's report. 
    Falling down,...not staying down
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,949
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Now tRump says he will release the transcript tomorrow.  
    With or without redactions? For “executive privilege” or “national security/attorney-client privilege?”
    Supposedly without....on Sunday though both Pompeo and Mnuchin said that they wouldn't release any transcripts due to confidentiality with foreign leaders

    fucking weird
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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    njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    Gern Blansten said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Now tRump says he will release the transcript tomorrow.  
    With or without redactions? For “executive privilege” or “national security/attorney-client privilege?”
    Supposedly without....on Sunday though both Pompeo and Mnuchin said that they wouldn't release any transcripts due to confidentiality with foreign leaders

    fucking weird
    He's lying. Trying to stop momentum. People should ignore anything he says he'll do or not do. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,626
    Releasing the transcript is one simple piece, but it won't end anything.  The whistleblower complaint could very well be the culmination of a series of calls and events, not just one.  
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    njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    mrussel1 said:
    Releasing the transcript is one simple piece, but it won't end anything.  The whistleblower complaint could very well be the culmination of a series of calls and events, not just one.  
    Most Intel people who've commented say the same. It would be a series of unfortunate events.  So even if he had a "perfect" call, whatever that is,  it would only be one that the whistleblower probably reported. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,626
    njnancy said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Releasing the transcript is one simple piece, but it won't end anything.  The whistleblower complaint could very well be the culmination of a series of calls and events, not just one.  
    Most Intel people who've commented say the same. It would be a series of unfortunate events.  So even if he had a "perfect" call, whatever that is,  it would only be one that the whistleblower probably reported. 
    Here's the dicey part.  Does the House raise the articles based on the admin not allowing constitutionally mandated oversight, or for the call itself?  If the latter, and the whole thing turns out to be a dud, then they walked into a Trump trap.  
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    mrussel1 said:
    njnancy said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Releasing the transcript is one simple piece, but it won't end anything.  The whistleblower complaint could very well be the culmination of a series of calls and events, not just one.  
    Most Intel people who've commented say the same. It would be a series of unfortunate events.  So even if he had a "perfect" call, whatever that is,  it would only be one that the whistleblower probably reported. 
    Here's the dicey part.  Does the House raise the articles based on the admin not allowing constitutionally mandated oversight, or for the call itself?  If the latter, and the whole thing turns out to be a dud, then they walked into a Trump trap.  
    Acting DNI Director has been ordered to appear before the house, make the whistle blower available and release the full Team Trump Treason Appointed IG’s report. Failure to do so or to withhold parts/aspects may be the basis of impeachment. Regardless, there needs to be yet another investigation to determine the facts. There’s more going in than we know.
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772




    Falling down,...not staying down
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    Nixon tried to pull that transcript scam in Watergate.
    When the Congress finally got the tapes and compared them...they were not the same.
    Falling down,...not staying down
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,949
    Tomorrow will be interesting
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,822
    Kat said:




    I was hoping we were going to hear directly. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,626
    oftenreading said:
    Kat said:




    I was hoping we were going to hear directly. 
    Hopefully eventually, but this has to go through intelligence committee by law, I believe.  
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    Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    I love the little clicker CNN is running live, on screen,  which shows the # of dems in house backing impeachment, lol. Last I checked we’re at 160. I hope they keep it up all night. Any bets on what we’ll be by 12:00am? I’m going with 167.

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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    Hi! said:
    I love the little clicker CNN is running live, on screen,  which shows the # of dems in house backing impeachment, lol. Last I checked we’re at 160. I hope they keep it up all night. Any bets on what we’ll be by 12:00am? I’m going with 167.
    last I saw was 164
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    Only 4 more to go.
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    Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    I don’t see 164 yet. The CNN clicker did go up one to 161. I only believe the CNN clicker, lol.

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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    Hi! said:
    I don’t see 164 yet. The CNN clicker did go up one to 161. I only believe the CNN clicker, lol.
    yeah, can't remember where I saw that. I could be remembering the number incorrectly. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,949
    edited September 2019
    All Senate GOP agree that tRump admin should cough up the whistleblower complaint...not just the transcript.  This is interesting
    https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/1176595517570203651
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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