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    After this news conference we should all be fucking worried about who is this idiot representing this country, totally nuts ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,608
    edited September 2019
    I just waded into Twitter, which is rare for me (it was terrible) .... Trump supporters and anti-Dems seem completely and utterly convinced that the transcript of the call fully exonerates Trump, lol.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,884
    PJ_Soul said:
    I just waded into Twitter, which is rare for me (it was terrible) .... Trump supporters and anti-Dems seem completely and utterly convinced that the transcript of the call fully exonerates Trump, lol.
    because Fox and Trump said it did.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    he cray yo

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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,884
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    ikiT said:
    he cray yo

    Totally!
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    Ben Sasse and Romney appear to have their integrity intact.  We'll see if anyone else follows suit.  I have hope for Burr and maybe even Kennedy. 
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,836
    PJ_Soul said:
    I just waded into Twitter, which is rare for me (it was terrible) .... Trump supporters and anti-Dems seem completely and utterly convinced that the transcript of the call fully exonerates Trump, lol.
    i am only on twitter to interact with bands.otherwise it is an utter hellish cesspool of partisan assholes who are never wrong. 
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    Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 16,804
    It's a memo, not a transcript. Wouldn't be fucking surprised if it was hastily typed up over night. 

    I'm not getting my hopes up re: the whistleblower statement, but based on Ben Sasse's quotes so far.....kinda can't contain my giddiness.
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    RenfieldRenfield NYC NY Posts: 1,054
    edited September 2019

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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,759
    Sorry is this is redundant but in case not, seems well worth posting.

    On Facebook, AOC said of Trump:
    "He can stay, he can go.  He can be impeached or voted out in 2020.  But removing Trump will not remove the infrastructure of an entire party that embraced him; the dark money that funded him; the online radicalization that drummed his army; nor the racism he amplified and reanimated."

    Robert Reich said of this:
    "AOC is absolutely right. Trump isn’t the cause of America’s problems — he's the product of years of stagnant wages and big money’s corruption of our democracy, combined with a long legacy of deep-seated racism and bigotry.

    If we really want to stop Trump, we need to address the factors that enabled his rise."

    Excellent points!


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    SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,520
    AOC is on point!
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    Trump is only a symptom, he isn’t the disease. 

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    brianlux said:
    Sorry is this is redundant but in case not, seems well worth posting.

    On Facebook, AOC said of Trump:
    "He can stay, he can go.  He can be impeached or voted out in 2020.  But removing Trump will not remove the infrastructure of an entire party that embraced him; the dark money that funded him; the online radicalization that drummed his army; nor the racism he amplified and reanimated."

    Robert Reich said of this:
    "AOC is absolutely right. Trump isn’t the cause of America’s problems — he's the product of years of stagnant wages and big money’s corruption of our democracy, combined with a long legacy of deep-seated racism and bigotry.

    If we really want to stop Trump, we need to address the factors that enabled his rise."

    Excellent points!


    I don't agree that Trump is in office due to stagnant wages. I find that a bit silly honestly.  Trump leveraged celebrity culture with the textbook traits of a demagogue.  There have been plenty of those in history regardless of economic system in place. He took advantage of the current strain of populism and nativism which has popped at points of heavy immigration and cultural change.  It happened in the mid 19th century,  early 20th and now. I agree with point 2 mildly,  but only on the edges.  Obviously agree with 3. That's the big one. 

    The party consolidating behind him was years of purity politics combined with the natural desire to keep your job. 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    So this happened.  I think the calculus may be different this afternoon.  

    RNC Chairwoman McDaniel: Calls for impeaching Trump are baseless


    After all of the Democrats’ hype and political grandstanding surrounding the whistleblower complaint about President Trump’s phone call with the president of Ukraine, we are once again left with what we already knew: their calls for impeachment are baseless.

    The president beat them at their own game by choosing to be completely transparent with the American people. In releasing the transcript of his phone call with President Volodymyr Zelensky, Trump showed that he had nothing to hide.


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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    She made those points on a Fox News show called (literally) "Outnumbered"


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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,986
    He has to be fucked here....his closest advisers knew it was wrong and tried to bury it.  


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    He has to be fucked here....his closest advisers knew it was wrong and tried to bury it.  


    Man oh man do I hope Rudy gets pressure and flips on this to protect himself. 
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,213
    He has to be fucked here....his closest advisers knew it was wrong and tried to bury it.  


    yup, trying to and moving the transcripts of the calls. this is nixon-esque. 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Nixon = Trump
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,213
    He has to be fucked here....his closest advisers knew it was wrong and tried to bury it.  


    Man oh man do I hope Rudy gets pressure and flips on this to protect himself. 
    Rudy better lawyer up
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Resign already.  Today.
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    Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 16,804
    Holy fucking god this is the best 9 pages I've ever read. I feel like there's enough here to access all of the info entered in to the NSC database.

    I hold out no hope that he's removed from office, but I'd like to be surprised.
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    pjhawks said:
    He has to be fucked here....his closest advisers knew it was wrong and tried to bury it.  


    Man oh man do I hope Rudy gets pressure and flips on this to protect himself. 
    Rudy better lawyer up
    Better get a better lawyer than he is.
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    I feel like eventually Trump is going to try and throw Rudy in front of this bus.....I hope it happens....
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    He has to be fucked here....his closest advisers knew it was wrong and tried to bury it.  


    This is truly wrong but he will skate out of this one too.

    Somewhere someone mentioned that Trump doesn't see what he did wrong and that is a problem.  Yes it is.  Certain things he does he ALWAYS thinks are ok.

    When you have a person that has done what he wants all his life it's hard for him to see what is right or wrong.

    Hopefully he goes down now.

    I'm all for the impeachment.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    mmm   Trumpito talking points....

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