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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    that escalated quickly...the MSNBC clicker is at 186 at 630 et
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    Kat said:
    It's about time. All the ignoring of subpoenas, lying, obstruction. I won't believe a soul-eater transcript either. I want to see the whistleblower's report. 
    Ditto !
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,768
    brianlux said:
    ikiT said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I miss MIckey.  Free Mickey.  
    he literally JUST left
    Whoa, WTF?  Really?  Membership expired, I assume?
    no, banned. this thread got locked for a reason. i'm surprised mickey got banned along with the other person who did, who was indisputably the instigator and aggressor. 

    hopefully it's a temporary vacation. he's a positive force around here. 

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    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    ikiT said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I miss MIckey.  Free Mickey.  
    he literally JUST left
    Whoa, WTF?  Really?  Membership expired, I assume?
    no, banned. this thread got locked for a reason. i'm surprised mickey got banned along with the other person who did, who was indisputably the instigator and aggressor. 

    hopefully it's a temporary vacation. he's a positive force around here. 

    lol good to see you back ..
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    RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,148
    The dems have taken a misstep here.   This is another political stunt that will backfire and hurt biden, his son & them more than trump.  No one releases transcripts of stuff that will hurt them. Watch Pelosi and the dems backstep once again in the next few days, and try to spin this as just a check on where they stand as a party.  This unfortunately for them is coming right before fisa abuse investigation info is to be released, so they’re hoping to quiet the incoming storm.  Ukraine may reopen an investigation into Hunter too, so bad choice by the dems.  Just more noise here people, nothing more, as usual.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,768

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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,537
    mickeyrat said:

    Did anyone ever answer him? :lol:
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    The dems have taken a misstep here.   This is another political stunt that will backfire and hurt biden, his son & them more than trump.  No one releases transcripts of stuff that will hurt them. Watch Pelosi and the dems backstep once again in the next few days, and try to spin this as just a check on where they stand as a party.  This unfortunately for them is coming right before fisa abuse investigation info is to be released, so they’re hoping to quiet the incoming storm.  Ukraine may reopen an investigation into Hunter too, so bad choice by the dems.  Just more noise here people, nothing more, as usual.
    That is one of my fears. Trump is releasing the transcript. But will it be accurate, or will it be similar to what Nixon did? When Nixon's tapes came out it was clear that things were whitewashed. So I'd prefer a recording of the call be released. At least the GOP Senate is now demanding the whistleblower report be made available to Congress. So some Republicans also want answers. 
    And #MoscowMitch said today that any impeachment proceeding against Trump will be quashed by the Senate. He says this before any facts are known. Before evidence is presented. Before charges are even levied. So he just played his cards and implicitly said that he doesn't care what Trump does or will do. He will do whatever he can to keep Trump from being held accountable for anything. Sounds like Trump > U.S. is the GOP line. So much for America First.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,832
    jeffbr said:
    The dems have taken a misstep here.   This is another political stunt that will backfire and hurt biden, his son & them more than trump.  No one releases transcripts of stuff that will hurt them. Watch Pelosi and the dems backstep once again in the next few days, and try to spin this as just a check on where they stand as a party.  This unfortunately for them is coming right before fisa abuse investigation info is to be released, so they’re hoping to quiet the incoming storm.  Ukraine may reopen an investigation into Hunter too, so bad choice by the dems.  Just more noise here people, nothing more, as usual.
    That is one of my fears. Trump is releasing the transcript. But will it be accurate, or will it be similar to what Nixon did? When Nixon's tapes came out it was clear that things were whitewashed. So I'd prefer a recording of the call be released. At least the GOP Senate is now demanding the whistleblower report be made available to Congress. So some Republicans also want answers. 
    And #MoscowMitch said today that any impeachment proceeding against Trump will be quashed by the Senate. He says this before any facts are known. Before evidence is presented. Before charges are even levied. So he just played his cards and implicitly said that he doesn't care what Trump does or will do. He will do whatever he can to keep Trump from being held accountable for anything. Sounds like Trump > U.S. is the GOP line. So much for America First.
    moscow mitch will be remembered in the trash bin of history. hopefully once he's done fallon won't have him on and dancing with the stars won't cast him. 
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    The dems have taken a misstep here.   This is another political stunt that will backfire and hurt biden, his son & them more than trump.  No one releases transcripts of stuff that will hurt them. Watch Pelosi and the dems backstep once again in the next few days, and try to spin this as just a check on where they stand as a party.  This unfortunately for them is coming right before fisa abuse investigation info is to be released, so they’re hoping to quiet the incoming storm.  Ukraine may reopen an investigation into Hunter too, so bad choice by the dems.  Just more noise here people, nothing more, as usual.

    Napolitano: Trump's admitted contact with Ukraine is a crime



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yY_N4d5xv8

    Maybe you can digest this because it's from FOX News.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,823
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    The dems have taken a misstep here.   This is another political stunt that will backfire and hurt biden, his son & them more than trump.  No one releases transcripts of stuff that will hurt them. Watch Pelosi and the dems backstep once again in the next few days, and try to spin this as just a check on where they stand as a party.  This unfortunately for them is coming right before fisa abuse investigation info is to be released, so they’re hoping to quiet the incoming storm.  Ukraine may reopen an investigation into Hunter too, so bad choice by the dems.  Just more noise here people, nothing more, as usual.
    Of course.  There’s literally nothing they can do that doesn’t help Trump.  The next president not named Trump hasn’t been born yet.
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,196
    The dems have taken a misstep here.   This is another political stunt that will backfire and hurt biden, his son & them more than trump.  No one releases transcripts of stuff that will hurt them. Watch Pelosi and the dems backstep once again in the next few days, and try to spin this as just a check on where they stand as a party.  This unfortunately for them is coming right before fisa abuse investigation info is to be released, so they’re hoping to quiet the incoming storm.  Ukraine may reopen an investigation into Hunter too, so bad choice by the dems.  Just more noise here people, nothing more, as usual.
    well Trump said he'd release the transcripts...and well since he lies about everything i'm guessing it won't be released.
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    SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,519
    Transcripts prepared by WH staff I am sure will be 100% accurate.

    obstruction, conspiracy, collusion, election fraud, emoluments, perjury, treason. illegal tariffs

    What can't they get him on?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,629
    pjhawks said:
    The dems have taken a misstep here.   This is another political stunt that will backfire and hurt biden, his son & them more than trump.  No one releases transcripts of stuff that will hurt them. Watch Pelosi and the dems backstep once again in the next few days, and try to spin this as just a check on where they stand as a party.  This unfortunately for them is coming right before fisa abuse investigation info is to be released, so they’re hoping to quiet the incoming storm.  Ukraine may reopen an investigation into Hunter too, so bad choice by the dems.  Just more noise here people, nothing more, as usual.
    well Trump said he'd release the transcripts...and well since he lies about everything i'm guessing it won't be released.
    They are allegedly releasing the complaint too.  Let's not kid ourselves that Pelosi moving to inquiry has led the allegation to declare they're releasing them.  There's no way they would do that without that pressure.  So if they are released,  then let's take a step back,  let the testimony occur etc. This isn't a trap if the Democrats play the cards properly.  Right now it's about oversight,  their constitutional duty. 
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,768
    just a first step in the process....
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    mrussel1 said:
    pjhawks said:
    The dems have taken a misstep here.   This is another political stunt that will backfire and hurt biden, his son & them more than trump.  No one releases transcripts of stuff that will hurt them. Watch Pelosi and the dems backstep once again in the next few days, and try to spin this as just a check on where they stand as a party.  This unfortunately for them is coming right before fisa abuse investigation info is to be released, so they’re hoping to quiet the incoming storm.  Ukraine may reopen an investigation into Hunter too, so bad choice by the dems.  Just more noise here people, nothing more, as usual.
    well Trump said he'd release the transcripts...and well since he lies about everything i'm guessing it won't be released.
    They are allegedly releasing the complaint too.  Let's not kid ourselves that Pelosi moving to inquiry has led the allegation to declare they're releasing them.  There's no way they would do that without that pressure.  So if they are released,  then let's take a step back,  let the testimony occur etc. This isn't a trap if the Democrats play the cards properly.  Right now it's about oversight,  their constitutional duty. 
    Nobody has ever said or implied to impeach without due process or unless it was of “substance.” This isn’t Behnghazi. Or Fast and Furious. Or even Iraq, of which I had and always will condemn Obama on for giving it a pass. This is a serious violation of the constitution. Trap? Dems lying in wait? This is corrupt incompetence at its most glaring. Mobb stops at the top, yo!
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    Putin on the ritz is pulling strings. PTAPE exists. Ask your self, your small self, why? Why would Team Trump Treason ask for investigation of a political opponent? Why would that happen? Putin on the ritz feared Hillary but it was Barack who implemented sanctions. The black guy comeuppance. And a silver spoon without a clue.
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    When was the last time the United States “checked” with a foreign government to release information previously collected and considered property of the US of fucking A. 

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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Bill Barr's typing up that unredacted, totally not a work of fiction "transcript" as we speak.

    Spin Spin
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Russia invaded the Ukraine and annexed Crimea. 

    As a TV personality who sold out to (or was Kompromat by) Russia around that same time, why WOULDN'T he harass the new TV president that they have? 

    I thought I'd feel much better today.  SAD.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,629
    ikiT said:
    Bill Barr's typing up that unredacted, totally not a work of fiction "transcript" as we speak.

    Spin Spin
    I heard a former member of the NSC that was on MSNBC this morning say something interesting.  He said there's probably not a real 'transcript' like a court transcript.  It's probably more like a readout, a one or two page memo with key points or highlights from the call.  One would think there's a call recording.  That's what is really needed.  
    Also read on the Post I think it was, that the security officials were alarmed with a number of events leading to this call, not just the call.  That's what I suspected yesterday.  The 'above the fold' story today is the most thorough write up I've seen so far, following Rudy's crazy ass antics for the last few months. 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    edited September 2019
    Actually, Barr's secretary is typing it up.   
    He can't control a modern keyboard with his sausage fingers. 
    She (of course) has a hairdo like Tawny Kitaen in that Whitesnake video.




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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,114
    mrussel1 said:
    ikiT said:
    Bill Barr's typing up that unredacted, totally not a work of fiction "transcript" as we speak.

    Spin Spin
    I heard a former member of the NSC that was on MSNBC this morning say something interesting.  He said there's probably not a real 'transcript' like a court transcript.  It's probably more like a readout, a one or two page memo with key points or highlights from the call.  One would think there's a call recording.  That's what is really needed.  
    Also read on the Post I think it was, that the security officials were alarmed with a number of events leading to this call, not just the call.  That's what I suspected yesterday.  The 'above the fold' story today is the most thorough write up I've seen so far, following Rudy's crazy ass antics for the last few months. 


    The whistleblower better have evidence resembling a smocking gun or Pelosi just gave trump four more years. 
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    edited September 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    ikiT said:
    Bill Barr's typing up that unredacted, totally not a work of fiction "transcript" as we speak.

    Spin Spin
    I heard a former member of the NSC that was on MSNBC this morning say something interesting.  He said there's probably not a real 'transcript' like a court transcript.  It's probably more like a readout, a one or two page memo with key points or highlights from the call.  One would think there's a call recording.  That's what is really needed.  
    Also read on the Post I think it was, that the security officials were alarmed with a number of events leading to this call, not just the call.  That's what I suspected yesterday.  The 'above the fold' story today is the most thorough write up I've seen so far, following Rudy's crazy ass antics for the last few months. 


    The whistleblower better have evidence resembling a smocking gun or Pelosi just gave trump four more years. 
    You’re not swayed by the transcript or DNI referral to the DOJ?

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,629
    mrussel1 said:
    ikiT said:
    Bill Barr's typing up that unredacted, totally not a work of fiction "transcript" as we speak.

    Spin Spin
    I heard a former member of the NSC that was on MSNBC this morning say something interesting.  He said there's probably not a real 'transcript' like a court transcript.  It's probably more like a readout, a one or two page memo with key points or highlights from the call.  One would think there's a call recording.  That's what is really needed.  
    Also read on the Post I think it was, that the security officials were alarmed with a number of events leading to this call, not just the call.  That's what I suspected yesterday.  The 'above the fold' story today is the most thorough write up I've seen so far, following Rudy's crazy ass antics for the last few months. 


    The whistleblower better have evidence resembling a smocking gun or Pelosi just gave trump four more years. 
    I don't agree, until an impeachment process actually takes place.

    But now... BOOM.  Using this article... quid, meet pro quo.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/transcript-of-trumps-call-with-ukrainian-president-shows-him-offering-us-assistance-for-biden-investigation/2019/09/25/16aa36ca-df0f-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html
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    Barr is in the transcript. He’s part of the investigation IMO. I think he should recuse himself.

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,629
    Hi! said:
    Barr is in the transcript. He’s part of the investigation IMO. I think he should recuse himself.
    There's nothing to recuse from.  This will be a congressional process.  
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ikiT said:
    Bill Barr's typing up that unredacted, totally not a work of fiction "transcript" as we speak.

    Spin Spin
    I heard a former member of the NSC that was on MSNBC this morning say something interesting.  He said there's probably not a real 'transcript' like a court transcript.  It's probably more like a readout, a one or two page memo with key points or highlights from the call.  One would think there's a call recording.  That's what is really needed.  
    Also read on the Post I think it was, that the security officials were alarmed with a number of events leading to this call, not just the call.  That's what I suspected yesterday.  The 'above the fold' story today is the most thorough write up I've seen so far, following Rudy's crazy ass antics for the last few months. 


    The whistleblower better have evidence resembling a smocking gun or Pelosi just gave trump four more years. 
    I don't agree, until an impeachment process actually takes place.

    But now... BOOM.  Using this article... quid, meet pro quo.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/transcript-of-trumps-call-with-ukrainian-president-shows-him-offering-us-assistance-for-biden-investigation/2019/09/25/16aa36ca-df0f-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html
    Oh shit.

    Smocke meet gun. And this is only part of the whistleblowers complaint, as we discussed a few days ago.
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    Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    mrussel1 said:
    Hi! said:
    Barr is in the transcript. He’s part of the investigation IMO. I think he should recuse himself.
    There's nothing to recuse from.  This will be a congressional process.  
    Oh, lol. I was under impression that he may have some sort of open investigation or oversight still as it relates to this investigation.

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,629
    Two different officials logged complaints asking for criminal probe.  The DOJ shockingly declined.  

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/25/us/politics/ukraine-transcript-trump.html

    So here's what's confusing.  The Post article (in the headline) declares he was offering assistance.  But the Times article specifically says he did not discuss the 391 million explicitly or implicitly.  So I'd like to see the memo or at least understand the point the Post is making.  
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