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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,193
    my2hands said:
    Pretty sure the black church massacre in South Carolina happened while Obama was POTUS and Trump was only a leader on his failing TV show.

    The bomber dude was not white

    The white dude that shot up the softball game was a progressive Bernie voter 

    The dude that shot up Pulse Night Club was Muslim, and gay 

    The dude who shot up the rally in Texas sniper style was a black American with military training

    Thst tweet generalizes a bit much for me

    There are enough crazy assholes to go around


    Stop talking facts bro. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Stop cherry picking isolated incidents that don’t fit the whole picture, bro. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856

    And meanwhile Agent Orange pauses, asks himself "What's the worst thing I could say in this situation?" and decides to take that option and run with it, blaming the synagogue for not having better security.

    I live near a Jewish congregation that as far as I can tell has security 24/7. But I also have to say that that's the first and only church, temple, etc. I have seen that has an active, full-time security detail. I imagine most congregations lack the money for such a luxury. And I also refuse to accept as a normal an environment in which religious groups need to hire security in order to meet in prayer.
    My synagogue, like the one in Pittsburgh, has locked doors monday-friday but is open  door Friday nights, all day Saturday,  and for all holidays. 
    However, there is always multiple off-duty police officers doing security during open door hours.
    Seems horrific to me that any place of worship needs to consider such security measures. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,193
    edited October 2018
    Stop cherry picking isolated incidents that don’t fit the whole picture, bro. 
    oh stop.  it's not like democrats don't use this tactic.
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
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  • Kev - Coat and Keys
    Kev - Coat and Keys Earth Posts: 357
    edited October 2018
    Author/tv writer David Simon was referring to the hunting of black people (and killing of 2) from a couple of days ago in Kentucky that got lost in the bombing crazy van dude capture, by the way.
    It is hard to keep up with all the evil though if you missed that story.
    Post edited by Kev - Coat and Keys on
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mcgruff10 said:
    Stop cherry picking isolated incidents that don’t fit the whole picture, bro. 
    oh stop.  it's not like democrats don't use this tactic.
    You a mod now? If not, you don’t get to tell people to stop. 

    Hate crimes are up significantly in the US. In some cities, Jewish people make up more than 50% of the targets, while in others, it’s gay people, or Muslims. It is predominantly white people perpetrating these crimes. 
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited October 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    Stop cherry picking isolated incidents that don’t fit the whole picture, bro. 
    oh stop.  it's not like democrats don't use this tactic.
    You a mod now? If not, you don’t get to tell people to stop. 

    Hate crimes are up significantly in the US. In some cities, Jewish people make up more than 50% of the targets, while in others, it’s gay people, or Muslims. It is predominantly white people perpetrating these crimes. 

    Lol

    You just finished saying this to him:
    Stop cherry picking isolated incidents that don’t fit the whole picture, bro. 


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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,193
    mcgruff10 said:
    Stop cherry picking isolated incidents that don’t fit the whole picture, bro. 
    oh stop.  it's not like democrats don't use this tactic.
    You a mod now? If not, you don’t get to tell people to stop. 

    Hate crimes are up significantly in the US. In some cities, Jewish people make up more than 50% of the targets, while in others, it’s gay people, or Muslims. It is predominantly white people perpetrating these crimes. 

    Lol

    You just finished saying this to him:
    Stop cherry picking isolated incidents that don’t fit the whole picture, bro. 


    Exactly. Both sides cherry pick and use it to their advantage. 

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    mcgruff10 said:
    Stop cherry picking isolated incidents that don’t fit the whole picture, bro. 
    oh stop.  it's not like democrats don't use this tactic.
    You a mod now? If not, you don’t get to tell people to stop. 

    Hate crimes are up significantly in the US. In some cities, Jewish people make up more than 50% of the targets, while in others, it’s gay people, or Muslims. It is predominantly white people perpetrating these crimes. 

    Lol

    You just finished saying this to him:
    Stop cherry picking isolated incidents that don’t fit the whole picture, bro. 


    That is priceless.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    my2hands said:
    Pretty sure the black church massacre in South Carolina happened while Obama was POTUS and Trump was only a leader on his failing TV show.

    The bomber dude was not white

    The white dude that shot up the softball game was a progressive Bernie voter 

    The dude that shot up Pulse Night Club was Muslim, and gay 

    The dude who shot up the rally in Texas sniper style was a black American with military training

    Thst tweet generalizes a bit much for me

    There are enough crazy assholes to go around


    What we have here is a bad case of the "both sides" argument, and another missed point. 




  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    Mass murderers are almost always male and largely white, though not always. Here is an article that discusses commonalities in mass killers up to Las Vegas shooting - there is a link to a database that breaks down every mass killing since I believe 1982 and shows the stats on the killer and those killed. 

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/17/us/mass-murderers.html
  • dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Pretty sure the black church massacre in South Carolina happened while Obama was POTUS and Trump was only a leader on his failing TV show.

    The bomber dude was not white

    The white dude that shot up the softball game was a progressive Bernie voter 

    The dude that shot up Pulse Night Club was Muslim, and gay 

    The dude who shot up the rally in Texas sniper style was a black American with military training

    Thst tweet generalizes a bit much for me

    There are enough crazy assholes to go around


    What we have here is a bad case of the "both sides" argument, and another missed point. 




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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mcgruff10 said:
    my2hands said:
    Pretty sure the black church massacre in South Carolina happened while Obama was POTUS and Trump was only a leader on his failing TV show.

    The bomber dude was not white

    The white dude that shot up the softball game was a progressive Bernie voter 

    The dude that shot up Pulse Night Club was Muslim, and gay 

    The dude who shot up the rally in Texas sniper style was a black American with military training

    Thst tweet generalizes a bit much for me

    There are enough crazy assholes to go around


    Stop talking facts bro. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,193
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Pretty sure the black church massacre in South Carolina happened while Obama was POTUS and Trump was only a leader on his failing TV show.

    The bomber dude was not white

    The white dude that shot up the softball game was a progressive Bernie voter 

    The dude that shot up Pulse Night Club was Muslim, and gay 

    The dude who shot up the rally in Texas sniper style was a black American with military training

    Thst tweet generalizes a bit much for me

    There are enough crazy assholes to go around


    What we have here is a bad case of the "both sides" argument, and another missed point. 




    Both sides are the same.
    Agreed. We might just yet be getting beers at the next pj show. 

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Pretty sure the black church massacre in South Carolina happened while Obama was POTUS and Trump was only a leader on his failing TV show.

    The bomber dude was not white

    The white dude that shot up the softball game was a progressive Bernie voter 

    The dude that shot up Pulse Night Club was Muslim, and gay 

    The dude who shot up the rally in Texas sniper style was a black American with military training

    Thst tweet generalizes a bit much for me

    There are enough crazy assholes to go around


    What we have here is a bad case of the "both sides" argument, and another missed point. 




    Both sides are the same.
    Agreed. We might just yet be getting beers at the next pj show. 


    No. I don't think that's happening yet.

    He was definitely tongue in cheek here lol.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,696
    mcgruff10 said:
    Stop cherry picking isolated incidents that don’t fit the whole picture, bro. 
    oh stop.  it's not like democrats don't use this tactic.
    You a mod now? If not, you don’t get to tell people to stop. 

    Hate crimes are up significantly in the US. In some cities, Jewish people make up more than 50% of the targets, while in others, it’s gay people, or Muslims. It is predominantly white people perpetrating these crimes. 
    There they go again.  The left accusing someone who shoots up a synagogue of being anti-Semitic.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,193
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Pretty sure the black church massacre in South Carolina happened while Obama was POTUS and Trump was only a leader on his failing TV show.

    The bomber dude was not white

    The white dude that shot up the softball game was a progressive Bernie voter 

    The dude that shot up Pulse Night Club was Muslim, and gay 

    The dude who shot up the rally in Texas sniper style was a black American with military training

    Thst tweet generalizes a bit much for me

    There are enough crazy assholes to go around


    What we have here is a bad case of the "both sides" argument, and another missed point. 




    Both sides are the same.
    Agreed. We might just yet be getting beers at the next pj show. 


    No. I don't think that's happening yet.

    He was definitely tongue in cheek here lol.
    One of the reasons why I do respect you so much is because you can remain objective and critique the right as well as the left.  I appreciate that.  
    Ok forget halifax yet again lol.
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  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    I don't know why some people feel that they need to be contrarian in every single discussion. If you have a point of view, that is exactly the reason for these threads. People are not stupid and we are able to have different opinions. But it is annoying to constantly have a voice come in to point out how stupid and wrong people's opinions are. If someone posts something extraordinarily troll like or stupid - yeah, but I don't think that educated adults have to be reprimanded for not understanding the real picture. Or for not focusing on the correct thing. This is not school and we do not need a teacher. We are all equal in our opinions and we all need to stop thinking that any one voice is more important or more enlightened than any other voice. Every person who contributes to the conversation is equal, mostly. 

    And Donald Trump does not embrace Republican values - the Congress is going ahead with their agenda while Trump tweets and rallies and spills state secrets but Trump does not have any ideology whatsoever except for Obama bad and tariffs - which, in the tariffs case, is not in the Republican party platform. Trump is for enriching Trump and whatever helps in that endeavor, he's on board. But he is completely ignorant of foreign affairs - which were always though of as the Republicans strong point. He is completely ignorant of most things, that is why he is so easy to manipulate. By foreign governments. 

    And it is okay to laugh at him for drinking water like a lizard or having toilet paper on his shoe. There is constant upheaval in this administration. Not daily, by multi-daily. A good chuckle now and again at the expense of a Trump isn't losing focus. It's being human for crying out loud. 

    I think it would be a decent thing if everyone accepted that other posters, regardless of their viewpoint, are thinking human beings who are not idiots. 
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited October 2018
    njnancy said:
    Mass murderers are almost always male and largely white, though not always. Here is an article that discusses commonalities in mass killers up to Las Vegas shooting - there is a link to a database that breaks down every mass killing since I believe 1982 and shows the stats on the killer and those killed. 

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/17/us/mass-murderers.html
    I don't agree with the funny use of language here by the NY Times...

     Mass Shootings... no argument of it being male dominant, 

    But here is the problem... 54% of mass shootings in USA are committed by a white person... and whites account for more than 54% of the population, especially going back to 1982 which is the data sample I believe... very simply, the data suggests whites are less likely to commit a mass shooting percentage/per capita wise than other demographics... whites are actually underrepresented in mass shootings, according to the data

    As an added note, whites only committed 44% of homicides in 2016 while being 70%+ of the population

    As NY times cites, these numbers come from the very progressive Mother Jones publication... and the FBI

     plenty of kooks to go around

    but yeah, racism... 

    https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/oct/06/newsweek/are-white-males-responsible-more-mass-shootings-an/

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map/

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/table-21
  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    my2hands said:
    njnancy said:
    Mass murderers are almost always male and largely white, though not always. Here is an article that discusses commonalities in mass killers up to Las Vegas shooting - there is a link to a database that breaks down every mass killing since I believe 1982 and shows the stats on the killer and those killed. 

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/17/us/mass-murderers.html
    I don't agree with the funny use of language here by the NY Times...

     Mass Shootings... no argument of it being male dominant, 

    But here is the problem... 54% of mass shootings in USA are committed by a white person... and whites account for more than 54% of the population, especially going back to 1982 which is the data sample I believe... very simply, the data suggests whites are less likely to commit a mass shooting percentage/per capita wise than other demographics... whites are actually underrepresented in mass shootings, according to the data

    As an added note, whites only committed 44% of homicides in 2016 while being 70%+ of the population

    As NY times cites, these numbers come from the very progressive Mother Jones publication... and the FBI

     plenty of kooks to go around

    but yeah, racism... 

    https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/oct/06/newsweek/are-white-males-responsible-more-mass-shootings-an/

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map/

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/table-21
    So sorry for not meeting your high standards for posting. 
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