Donald Trump

Go Beavers

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

Remember when "But Gorsuch..." was funny?

Ugh. Really?

Mitch McConnell and his hijacking of the supreme court for 11 months is responsible for Gorsuch, not the president. Any republican would've nominated someone with his credentials.

No kidding.

So what's the point of your post?

If you're a conservative, which I am, and believe in conservative principles, which I do, then these decisions that have rolled out over the last few days are meaningful to you. They are far more important and long lasting then anything Trump himself can actually do. It explains why a conservative can support Trump even if he can be a jackass as "jackassery" in time will evaporate while these decisions will probably last a lifetime. The dwindling number of #NeverTrump conservatives would have preferred the average GOP voter to throw away their vote against their long term interests. But more to the point... I happen to think Trump is accomplishing a lot but there was a time only a few short months ago where many were saying "But Gorsuch..." as a punch line. What I am saying is that even if it was the only thing Trump accomplished just by the fact that he was elected (and there is no guarantee another republican candidate would have won the blue states Trump won) then it would have been more then plenty. People who hate these 5-4 decisions are probably not laughing now.

What's conservative about separating families from the border or banning muslims from entering our country, or forcing American companies like Harley Davidson to produce their product overseas as a result of Trump's dumb trade war, or adding billions (trillions?) to the deficit? I think I am missing something here.

There is nothing conservative about Donald Trump. Nothing. The man is a carnival barking fraud conservative who just placates to gun lovers, despite not being a gun enthusiast; and Christians, despite never going to church and never displaying any of their supposed values.

Perhaps you're excited about Space Force!

Companies like Toyota, Mercedes, Subaru, etc., came to build factories here in the US not because of tariffs but because it was cheaper.  I do wonder if Harley Davidson was contemplating a move and this sealed the deal?

I agree with everything else.  Trump has always said, years ago, that if he ran for president he would run Republican.

if you are referring to that "interview" where he claimed he would run republican because they have the most gullible voters, that was proven false. he never said that. 

"I love the poorly educated" -direct quote. And whether he called them gullible or not, it's true. Him being president is all the proof you need.

But many where "the poorly educated" as a badge of honour. Phd's and MSc's are overrated in the real world. It is you who confuses "poorly educated" with "stupid".

For fucks sake look at the unemployment numbers. Poof! There goes your BS  argument in the real world! Look at lifetime earning potential and quality of life factors. Team Trump Treason and his ilk would have us return to serfdom. Better get off the pipe yo!

Return to serfdom? With those unemployment numbers and a growth rate pushing 4%? Who's on the pipe?

Thanks Obama.

Hilarious.

Ah, yes. 120 months or whatever of growth started on 1/20/17, right?

...just like the carnival barking leader you support would like for you to believe.

No. It started after hitting rock bottom in 2008 but it has taken off only recently.

What’s the ‘it’ that is taking off?

PJ_Soul

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

if you are referring to that "interview" where he claimed he would run republican because they have the most gullible voters, that was proven false. he never said that. 

"I love the poorly educated" -direct quote. And whether he called them gullible or not, it's true. Him being president is all the proof you need.

But many where "the poorly educated" as a badge of honour. Phd's and MSc's are overrated in the real world. It is you who confuses "poorly educated" with "stupid".

For fucks sake look at the unemployment numbers. Poof! There goes your BS  argument in the real world! Look at lifetime earning potential and quality of life factors. Team Trump Treason and his ilk would have us return to serfdom. Better get off the pipe yo!

Return to serfdom? With those unemployment numbers and a growth rate pushing 4%? Who's on the pipe?

Thanks Obama.

Hilarious.

Ah, yes. 120 months or whatever of growth started on 1/20/17, right?

...just like the carnival barking leader you support would like for you to believe.

No. It started after hitting rock bottom in 2008 but it has taken off only recently.

What’s the ‘it’ that is taking off?

Good question.
Here is what's gone on with the Dow under POTUS's. I see no "taking off" under Trump reflected here. The same can be said for any of the US exchanges.

http://www.macrotrends.net/2481/stock-market-performance-by-president

dignin

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

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vaggar99 said:

So you're a believer in his "private sector business skills"?

it takes a special kind of person to declare bankruptcy 6 times.  that has to be an elite group.

It takes a special kind of person to succeed out of bankruptcy that many times. That is a super elite group. Considering your country (and most) are teetering on the edge of bankruptcy that elite kind of skill might just come in handy.

His stupid reality show is what saved him. 

It sure did. Knowing when to pivot is key.

Haha. Nobody is believing the 3D stuff BS. Take that act somewhere else.

It's dark Russian money that saved his ass, and will ultimately ruin his ass in the end.

BS44325

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

vaggar99 said:

So you're a believer in his "private sector business skills"?

it takes a special kind of person to declare bankruptcy 6 times.  that has to be an elite group.

It takes a special kind of person to succeed out of bankruptcy that many times. That is a super elite group. Considering your country (and most) are teetering on the edge of bankruptcy that elite kind of skill might just come in handy.

His stupid reality show is what saved him. 

It sure did. Knowing when to pivot is key.

Haha. Nobody is believing the 3D stuff BS. Take that act somewhere else.

It's dark Russian money that saved his ass, and will ultimately ruin his ass in the end.

Right. The dark Russian money. That makes way more sense.

BS44325

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

Remember when "But Gorsuch..." was funny?

Ugh. Really?

Mitch McConnell and his hijacking of the supreme court for 11 months is responsible for Gorsuch, not the president. Any republican would've nominated someone with his credentials.

No kidding.

So what's the point of your post?

If you're a conservative, which I am, and believe in conservative principles, which I do, then these decisions that have rolled out over the last few days are meaningful to you. They are far more important and long lasting then anything Trump himself can actually do. It explains why a conservative can support Trump even if he can be a jackass as "jackassery" in time will evaporate while these decisions will probably last a lifetime. The dwindling number of #NeverTrump conservatives would have preferred the average GOP voter to throw away their vote against their long term interests. But more to the point... I happen to think Trump is accomplishing a lot but there was a time only a few short months ago where many were saying "But Gorsuch..." as a punch line. What I am saying is that even if it was the only thing Trump accomplished just by the fact that he was elected (and there is no guarantee another republican candidate would have won the blue states Trump won) then it would have been more then plenty. People who hate these 5-4 decisions are probably not laughing now.

What's conservative about separating families from the border or banning muslims from entering our country, or forcing American companies like Harley Davidson to produce their product overseas as a result of Trump's dumb trade war, or adding billions (trillions?) to the deficit? I think I am missing something here.

There is nothing conservative about Donald Trump. Nothing. The man is a carnival barking fraud conservative who just placates to gun lovers, despite not being a gun enthusiast; and Christians, despite never going to church and never displaying any of their supposed values.

Perhaps you're excited about Space Force!

Companies like Toyota, Mercedes, Subaru, etc., came to build factories here in the US not because of tariffs but because it was cheaper.  I do wonder if Harley Davidson was contemplating a move and this sealed the deal?

I agree with everything else.  Trump has always said, years ago, that if he ran for president he would run Republican.

if you are referring to that "interview" where he claimed he would run republican because they have the most gullible voters, that was proven false. he never said that. 

"I love the poorly educated" -direct quote. And whether he called them gullible or not, it's true. Him being president is all the proof you need.

But many where "the poorly educated" as a badge of honour. Phd's and MSc's are overrated in the real world. It is you who confuses "poorly educated" with "stupid".

For fucks sake look at the unemployment numbers. Poof! There goes your BS  argument in the real world! Look at lifetime earning potential and quality of life factors. Team Trump Treason and his ilk would have us return to serfdom. Better get off the pipe yo!

Return to serfdom? With those unemployment numbers and a growth rate pushing 4%? Who's on the pipe?

Thanks Obama.

Hilarious.

Ah, yes. 120 months or whatever of growth started on 1/20/17, right?

...just like the carnival barking leader you support would like for you to believe.

No. It started after hitting rock bottom in 2008 but it has taken off only recently.

What’s the ‘it’ that is taking off?

Growth. Read the thread.

dignin

It's been a slice America, but you're fucked now.

Justice Anthony Kennedy to retire from Supreme Court

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/27/politics/anthony-kennedy-retires/index.html

BS44325

dignin said:

It's been a slice America, but you're fucked now.

Justice Anthony Kennedy to retire from Supreme Court

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/27/politics/anthony-kennedy-retires/index.html

Poor RBG will have to work until she's 100.

Gern Blansten

dignin said:

It's been a slice America, but you're fucked now.

Justice Anthony Kennedy to retire from Supreme Court

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/27/politics/anthony-kennedy-retires/index.html

although his recent votes haven't helped much

dignin

Gern Blansten said:

dignin said:

It's been a slice America, but you're fucked now.

Justice Anthony Kennedy to retire from Supreme Court

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/27/politics/anthony-kennedy-retires/index.html

although his recent votes haven't helped much

True.

Meltdown99

The CNN article says that will set the Supreme Court up for conservatives for generations?  Is that correct?

BS44325

Meltdown99 said:

The CNN article says that will set the Supreme Court up for conservatives for generations?  Is that correct?

Likely. Kennedy was always known as "the swing vote" even though he has generally been more right then left. If he is replaced by a more "solid" conservative then the "swing" will disappear. That being said nobody is ever "solid"...Roberts was supposed to be solid and sided with the liberal judges on Obamacare.

mrussel1

dignin said:

It's been a slice America, but you're fucked now.

Justice Anthony Kennedy to retire from Supreme Court

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/27/politics/anthony-kennedy-retires/index.html

No date... maybe he'll wait for the mids?

Gern Blansten

Meltdown99 said:

The CNN article says that will set the Supreme Court up for conservatives for generations?  Is that correct?

depends on whether tRump wins a second term and how long RBG can hold out

I hope a Dem wins the WH in 2020 and adds two justices (total of 11)

PJ_Soul

If the SCOTUS worked the way it's supposed to, there wouldn't be all these split votes at all. Clearly those judges aren't doing their jobs properly (or at least about half of them aren't).

BS44325

PJ_Soul said:

If the SCOTUS worked the way it's supposed to, there wouldn't be all these split votes at all. Clearly those judges aren't doing their jobs properly (or at least about half of them aren't).

But the country is about 52-48 split on most issues so it is actually working perfectly.

BS44325

mrussel1 said:

dignin said:

It's been a slice America, but you're fucked now.

Justice Anthony Kennedy to retire from Supreme Court

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/27/politics/anthony-kennedy-retires/index.html

No date... maybe he'll wait for the mids?

Will probably be immediate as the last cases of the season have been decided.

NewJPage

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

Remember when "But Gorsuch..." was funny?

Ugh. Really?

Mitch McConnell and his hijacking of the supreme court for 11 months is responsible for Gorsuch, not the president. Any republican would've nominated someone with his credentials.

No kidding.

So what's the point of your post?

If you're a conservative, which I am, and believe in conservative principles, which I do, then these decisions that have rolled out over the last few days are meaningful to you. They are far more important and long lasting then anything Trump himself can actually do. It explains why a conservative can support Trump even if he can be a jackass as "jackassery" in time will evaporate while these decisions will probably last a lifetime. The dwindling number of #NeverTrump conservatives would have preferred the average GOP voter to throw away their vote against their long term interests. But more to the point... I happen to think Trump is accomplishing a lot but there was a time only a few short months ago where many were saying "But Gorsuch..." as a punch line. What I am saying is that even if it was the only thing Trump accomplished just by the fact that he was elected (and there is no guarantee another republican candidate would have won the blue states Trump won) then it would have been more then plenty. People who hate these 5-4 decisions are probably not laughing now.

What's conservative about separating families from the border or banning muslims from entering our country, or forcing American companies like Harley Davidson to produce their product overseas as a result of Trump's dumb trade war, or adding billions (trillions?) to the deficit? I think I am missing something here.

There is nothing conservative about Donald Trump. Nothing. The man is a carnival barking fraud conservative who just placates to gun lovers, despite not being a gun enthusiast; and Christians, despite never going to church and never displaying any of their supposed values.

Perhaps you're excited about Space Force!

Companies like Toyota, Mercedes, Subaru, etc., came to build factories here in the US not because of tariffs but because it was cheaper.  I do wonder if Harley Davidson was contemplating a move and this sealed the deal?

I agree with everything else.  Trump has always said, years ago, that if he ran for president he would run Republican.

if you are referring to that "interview" where he claimed he would run republican because they have the most gullible voters, that was proven false. he never said that. 

"I love the poorly educated" -direct quote. And whether he called them gullible or not, it's true. Him being president is all the proof you need.

But many where "the poorly educated" as a badge of honour. Phd's and MSc's are overrated in the real world. It is you who confuses "poorly educated" with "stupid".

For fucks sake look at the unemployment numbers. Poof! There goes your BS  argument in the real world! Look at lifetime earning potential and quality of life factors. Team Trump Treason and his ilk would have us return to serfdom. Better get off the pipe yo!

Return to serfdom? With those unemployment numbers and a growth rate pushing 4%? Who's on the pipe?

CBO just projected growth at 1.9

BS44325

Gern Blansten said:

Meltdown99 said:

The CNN article says that will set the Supreme Court up for conservatives for generations?  Is that correct?

depends on whether tRump wins a second term and how long RBG can hold out

I hope a Dem wins the WH in 2020 and adds two justices (total of 11)

2020 will be the "generational" election. Not likely RBG can stay on until 2024.

mrussel1

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Meltdown99 said:

The CNN article says that will set the Supreme Court up for conservatives for generations?  Is that correct?

depends on whether tRump wins a second term and how long RBG can hold out

I hope a Dem wins the WH in 2020 and adds two justices (total of 11)

2020 will be the "generational" election. Not likely RBG can stay on until 2024.

I'm done with baby boomers

BS44325

NewJPage said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

The Juggler said:

BS44325 said:

Remember when "But Gorsuch..." was funny?

Ugh. Really?

Mitch McConnell and his hijacking of the supreme court for 11 months is responsible for Gorsuch, not the president. Any republican would've nominated someone with his credentials.

No kidding.

So what's the point of your post?

If you're a conservative, which I am, and believe in conservative principles, which I do, then these decisions that have rolled out over the last few days are meaningful to you. They are far more important and long lasting then anything Trump himself can actually do. It explains why a conservative can support Trump even if he can be a jackass as "jackassery" in time will evaporate while these decisions will probably last a lifetime. The dwindling number of #NeverTrump conservatives would have preferred the average GOP voter to throw away their vote against their long term interests. But more to the point... I happen to think Trump is accomplishing a lot but there was a time only a few short months ago where many were saying "But Gorsuch..." as a punch line. What I am saying is that even if it was the only thing Trump accomplished just by the fact that he was elected (and there is no guarantee another republican candidate would have won the blue states Trump won) then it would have been more then plenty. People who hate these 5-4 decisions are probably not laughing now.

What's conservative about separating families from the border or banning muslims from entering our country, or forcing American companies like Harley Davidson to produce their product overseas as a result of Trump's dumb trade war, or adding billions (trillions?) to the deficit? I think I am missing something here.

There is nothing conservative about Donald Trump. Nothing. The man is a carnival barking fraud conservative who just placates to gun lovers, despite not being a gun enthusiast; and Christians, despite never going to church and never displaying any of their supposed values.

Perhaps you're excited about Space Force!

Companies like Toyota, Mercedes, Subaru, etc., came to build factories here in the US not because of tariffs but because it was cheaper.  I do wonder if Harley Davidson was contemplating a move and this sealed the deal?

I agree with everything else.  Trump has always said, years ago, that if he ran for president he would run Republican.

if you are referring to that "interview" where he claimed he would run republican because they have the most gullible voters, that was proven false. he never said that. 

"I love the poorly educated" -direct quote. And whether he called them gullible or not, it's true. Him being president is all the proof you need.

But many where "the poorly educated" as a badge of honour. Phd's and MSc's are overrated in the real world. It is you who confuses "poorly educated" with "stupid".

For fucks sake look at the unemployment numbers. Poof! There goes your BS  argument in the real world! Look at lifetime earning potential and quality of life factors. Team Trump Treason and his ilk would have us return to serfdom. Better get off the pipe yo!

Return to serfdom? With those unemployment numbers and a growth rate pushing 4%? Who's on the pipe?

Cbo's just projected growth at 1.9

And the Atlanta Fed is predicting 4.5

https://twitter.com/AtlantaFed/status/1011983445197774853