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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,133
    jeffbr said:

    Tiki said:

    I get my insurance through the ACA with a subsidy. No prescriptions, no dental, no vision. It's an insurance plan not a health plan.

    I have a $6500 deductible, and I pay (with the subsidy) the insurance company $325 a month.

    It's useless, unless you like propping up insurance companies. For them, I'm sure it's awesome.

    Has this changed since your new POTUS?
    I don't think anything has changed yet for anyone. And just to correct you, he not our POTUS, he's our SCROTUS (So Called Ruler Of The U.S.). Please refer to him as such going forward. Thanks.
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,435
    benjs said:

    jeffbr said:

    Tiki said:

    I get my insurance through the ACA with a subsidy. No prescriptions, no dental, no vision. It's an insurance plan not a health plan.

    I have a $6500 deductible, and I pay (with the subsidy) the insurance company $325 a month.

    It's useless, unless you like propping up insurance companies. For them, I'm sure it's awesome.

    Has this changed since your new POTUS?
    I don't think anything has changed yet for anyone. And just to correct you, he not our POTUS, he's our SCROTUS (So Called Ruler Of The U.S.). Please refer to him as such going forward. Thanks.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    benjs said:

    jeffbr said:

    Tiki said:

    I get my insurance through the ACA with a subsidy. No prescriptions, no dental, no vision. It's an insurance plan not a health plan.

    I have a $6500 deductible, and I pay (with the subsidy) the insurance company $325 a month.

    It's useless, unless you like propping up insurance companies. For them, I'm sure it's awesome.

    Has this changed since your new POTUS?
    I don't think anything has changed yet for anyone. And just to correct you, he not our POTUS, he's our SCROTUS (So Called Ruler Of The U.S.). Please refer to him as such going forward. Thanks.
    So-Called Ruler Of The United (Mostly) States... SCROTUMS.
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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    I'm pretty sure the Universal Health Care that Bernie Sanders was proposing, along the lines of what every other major country has, one that put an emphasis on actual care instead of keeping private insurance companies in business would be more preferable. What we'll get is Republican "health care savings accounts" and then when the disaster hits, ACA recipients will just be steamrolled.
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  • mrussel1 said:

    jeffbr said:

    Tiki said:

    I get my insurance through the ACA with a subsidy. No prescriptions, no dental, no vision. It's an insurance plan not a health plan.

    I have a $6500 deductible, and I pay (with the subsidy) the insurance company $325 a month.

    It's useless, unless you like propping up insurance companies. For them, I'm sure it's awesome.

    Has this changed since your new POTUS?
    I don't think anything has changed yet for anyone. And just to correct you, he not our POTUS, he's our SCROTUS (So Called Ruler Of The U.S.). Please refer to him as such going forward. Thanks.
    You see?
    This is fake news that you want to spew going forward.
    He is your POTUS.
    WTF are you talking about? You should really learn more about the US Constitution if you are going to opine on our system so often.

    Contrary to Trump's declaration that he would repeal the law on Day 1 (notice he didn't), he does not have that authority in the least. This was a legislative act and any change falls completely under the purview of Congress. He has no authority other than signing whatever comes out of congress.
    Until then people have to stop harping on the Trump administration until the new plan flies through republican backed congress.
    I'm sure President Trump has found out that he does not have the authority on this but his congress does.
    One month to repeal and implement a new plan just doesn't happen, it will take time.
  • CM189191 said:

    Tiki said:

    the premiums increased on Dec 31st, but that had nothing to do with Trump.

    HE HAS NO PLAN except to repeal and replace with something terrific..

    No plan yet revealed.
    He is working on it.
    Until then you are stuck with the old.
    It's only been a month.
    6 years
    67 attempts to repeal
    somehow these jackholes don't have a plan in place yet?

    also, premiums
    Slower Premium Growth Under Obama


    Health Care Costs Grow Dramatically Slower Than Expected After Obamacare
    Your graphs are like polls.
    Meaningless.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845

    CM189191 said:

    Tiki said:

    the premiums increased on Dec 31st, but that had nothing to do with Trump.

    HE HAS NO PLAN except to repeal and replace with something terrific..

    No plan yet revealed.
    He is working on it.
    Until then you are stuck with the old.
    It's only been a month.
    6 years
    67 attempts to repeal
    somehow these jackholes don't have a plan in place yet?

    also, premiums
    Slower Premium Growth Under Obama


    Health Care Costs Grow Dramatically Slower Than Expected After Obamacare
    Your graphs are like polls.
    Meaningless.
    Well, sure. Graphs only have meaning if you understand them.
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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    I don't think Trump understands how legislation or the US govt actually works.
    He understands how to be the boss of a very small company.
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  • CM189191 said:

    Tiki said:

    the premiums increased on Dec 31st, but that had nothing to do with Trump.

    HE HAS NO PLAN except to repeal and replace with something terrific..

    No plan yet revealed.
    He is working on it.
    Until then you are stuck with the old.
    It's only been a month.
    6 years
    67 attempts to repeal
    somehow these jackholes don't have a plan in place yet?

    also, premiums
    Slower Premium Growth Under Obama


    Health Care Costs Grow Dramatically Slower Than Expected After Obamacare
    Your graphs are like polls.
    Meaningless.
    Coming from someone who believes facts don't matter, sure.

    CM, please stop with the facts, please?
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  • CM189191 said:

    Tiki said:

    the premiums increased on Dec 31st, but that had nothing to do with Trump.

    HE HAS NO PLAN except to repeal and replace with something terrific..

    No plan yet revealed.
    He is working on it.
    Until then you are stuck with the old.
    It's only been a month.
    6 years
    67 attempts to repeal
    somehow these jackholes don't have a plan in place yet?

    also, premiums
    Slower Premium Growth Under Obama


    Health Care Costs Grow Dramatically Slower Than Expected After Obamacare
    Your graphs are like polls.
    Meaningless.
    Well, sure. Graphs only have meaning if you understand them.
    This graph can be stated in one word - inflation.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,656
    rssesq said:

    A word to the wise, do not be critical of Israel or dual citizenship holding members of congress in any way or the board mods will threaten you with BANISHMENT!

    A little oppression getting you down?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,656

    CM189191 said:

    Tiki said:

    the premiums increased on Dec 31st, but that had nothing to do with Trump.

    HE HAS NO PLAN except to repeal and replace with something terrific..

    No plan yet revealed.
    He is working on it.
    Until then you are stuck with the old.
    It's only been a month.
    6 years
    67 attempts to repeal
    somehow these jackholes don't have a plan in place yet?

    also, premiums
    Slower Premium Growth Under Obama


    Health Care Costs Grow Dramatically Slower Than Expected After Obamacare
    Your graphs are like polls.
    Meaningless.
    Well, sure. Graphs only have meaning if you understand them.
    Ha!
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Tiki said:

    I don't think Trump understands how legislation or the US govt actually works.
    He understands how to be the boss of a very small company.

  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,435

    CM189191 said:

    Tiki said:

    the premiums increased on Dec 31st, but that had nothing to do with Trump.

    HE HAS NO PLAN except to repeal and replace with something terrific..

    No plan yet revealed.
    He is working on it.
    Until then you are stuck with the old.
    It's only been a month.
    6 years
    67 attempts to repeal
    somehow these jackholes don't have a plan in place yet?

    also, premiums
    Slower Premium Growth Under Obama


    Health Care Costs Grow Dramatically Slower Than Expected After Obamacare
    Your graphs are like polls.
    Meaningless.
    Well, sure. Graphs only have meaning if you understand them.
    True. That usually helps.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,071
    This also applies more realistically to detaining illegals.
  • Tiki said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Tiki said:

    I get my insurance through the ACA with a subsidy. No prescriptions, no dental, no vision. It's an insurance plan not a health plan.

    I have a $6500 deductible, and I pay (with the subsidy) the insurance company $325 a month.

    It's useless, unless you like propping up insurance companies. For them, I'm sure it's awesome.

    To be fair, that could probably mean that you haven't had anything catastrophic happen to you. One car accident, ambulance trip and a surgery, and you're at 100 grand in a second. That's where it would help.
    Yes it's insurance against disaster, but not really a health plan.
    isn't it?

    In the event of something major... you've got coverage. And in the meantime... you're covered with the smaller items. No?

    The bigger question is the structure that allows for medical facilities and insurance leeches to charge so much. Health is an essential service. I'm really not too sure of allowing such price gouging on what ultimately is a monopoly.

    Doctors should be well paid- don't get me wrong. So should nurses. But I'm under the impression there are a lot of people far removed from patient care that have healthy bank accounts. Am I wrong?
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  • Seven people shot and killed yesterday in Chicago. What is going on there - totally out of control. Chicago needs help! Big interview tonight by Henry Kravis at The Business Council of Washington. Looking forward to it!
  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055

    Tiki said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Tiki said:

    I get my insurance through the ACA with a subsidy. No prescriptions, no dental, no vision. It's an insurance plan not a health plan.

    I have a $6500 deductible, and I pay (with the subsidy) the insurance company $325 a month.

    It's useless, unless you like propping up insurance companies. For them, I'm sure it's awesome.

    To be fair, that could probably mean that you haven't had anything catastrophic happen to you. One car accident, ambulance trip and a surgery, and you're at 100 grand in a second. That's where it would help.
    Yes it's insurance against disaster, but not really a health plan.
    isn't it?

    In the event of something major... you've got coverage. And in the meantime... you're covered with the smaller items. No?

    The bigger question is the structure that allows for medical facilities and insurance leeches to charge so much. Health is an essential service. I'm really not too sure of allowing such price gouging on what ultimately is a monopoly.

    Doctors should be well paid- don't get me wrong. So should nurses. But I'm under the impression there are a lot of people far removed from patient care that have healthy bank accounts. Am I wrong?
    smaller things get buried with that 6500 deduct. I never go to the doctor
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845

    Seven people shot and killed yesterday in Chicago. What is going on there - totally out of control. Chicago needs help! Big interview tonight by Henry Kravis at The Business Council of Washington. Looking forward to it!

    Is it you or Trump that's not feeling bold right now?
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  • Seven people shot and killed yesterday in Chicago. What is going on there - totally out of control. Chicago needs help! Big interview tonight by Henry Kravis at The Business Council of Washington. Looking forward to it!

    Trump is failing the residents of Chicago
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  • Tiki said:

    Tiki said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Tiki said:

    I get my insurance through the ACA with a subsidy. No prescriptions, no dental, no vision. It's an insurance plan not a health plan.

    I have a $6500 deductible, and I pay (with the subsidy) the insurance company $325 a month.

    It's useless, unless you like propping up insurance companies. For them, I'm sure it's awesome.

    To be fair, that could probably mean that you haven't had anything catastrophic happen to you. One car accident, ambulance trip and a surgery, and you're at 100 grand in a second. That's where it would help.
    Yes it's insurance against disaster, but not really a health plan.
    isn't it?

    In the event of something major... you've got coverage. And in the meantime... you're covered with the smaller items. No?

    The bigger question is the structure that allows for medical facilities and insurance leeches to charge so much. Health is an essential service. I'm really not too sure of allowing such price gouging on what ultimately is a monopoly.

    Doctors should be well paid- don't get me wrong. So should nurses. But I'm under the impression there are a lot of people far removed from patient care that have healthy bank accounts. Am I wrong?
    smaller things get buried with that 6500 deduct. I never go to the doctor
    A $6500 deductible is insane.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,749
    rssesq said:

    A word to the wise, do not be critical of Israel or dual citizenship holding members of congress in any way or the board mods will threaten you with BANISHMENT!

    I'm sure that being openly critical of "Israel and dual citizen holding members of Congress" won't get you banned.

    But making openly anti-Semitic comments on here and criticizing the mods just might.

    Shalom rr
  • Tiki said:

    Tiki said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Tiki said:

    I get my insurance through the ACA with a subsidy. No prescriptions, no dental, no vision. It's an insurance plan not a health plan.

    I have a $6500 deductible, and I pay (with the subsidy) the insurance company $325 a month.

    It's useless, unless you like propping up insurance companies. For them, I'm sure it's awesome.

    To be fair, that could probably mean that you haven't had anything catastrophic happen to you. One car accident, ambulance trip and a surgery, and you're at 100 grand in a second. That's where it would help.
    Yes it's insurance against disaster, but not really a health plan.
    isn't it?

    In the event of something major... you've got coverage. And in the meantime... you're covered with the smaller items. No?

    The bigger question is the structure that allows for medical facilities and insurance leeches to charge so much. Health is an essential service. I'm really not too sure of allowing such price gouging on what ultimately is a monopoly.

    Doctors should be well paid- don't get me wrong. So should nurses. But I'm under the impression there are a lot of people far removed from patient care that have healthy bank accounts. Am I wrong?
    smaller things get buried with that 6500 deduct. I never go to the doctor
    A $6500 deductible is insane.
    That's the one thing nobody in Washington ever talks about with ideas of revamping or whatever about the ACA.
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  • EM194007EM194007 Posts: 2,827
    Nice how the SF article leaves out that the person received a deportation order by a judge after multiple criminal convictions for domestic assault, driving while impaired, and violating a protective order. And was supposed to be on the plane.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/02/23/federal-agents-ask-domestic-flight-passengers-to-show-ids-in-search-for-undocumented-immigrant/?utm_term=.852646f6d42f

    If you were to do those things in a country your in illegally, they'd throw your ass in prison for a very, very long time.

    If your here illegally, and stay out of serious trouble, then leave them alone, IMO. But someone like this who had all those charges. Sorry, but don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited February 2017

    Seven people shot and killed yesterday in Chicago. What is going on there - totally out of control. Chicago needs help! Big interview tonight by Henry Kravis at The Business Council of Washington. Looking forward to it!

    Somebody needs to tell the president that tweeting doesn't actually accomplish anything.

    So called President. Sad!
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