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C'mon. It's basically calling Ryme stupid. That he is too "low-information" to know that there are already restrictions in place. What nonsense.mrussel1 said:
You went after him for being precise when the poster was imprecise. I'm just saying words matter, even missing words. No one knows what Ryme knows..not even you.BS44325 said:
This is beneath you.mrussel1 said:
Words matter. We didn't realize you were his interpreter. And I think you should be careful assuming that every Trump voter knew that there was an immigration, visa, and green card policy in place already. But you are already know that.BS44325 said:^^^
He clearly means "additional" restrictions. Of course you already know that. This is an example of the disingenuous left.0 -
BS44325 said:
Nope.Go Beavers said:I think surveys are showing a majority support the stopping of trump's EO.
https://morningconsult.com/2017/02/08/trump-approval-rating-slides-despite-support-travel-ban/
CNN poll has 53% opposing his EO.BS44325 said:
Nope.Go Beavers said:I think surveys are showing a majority support the stopping of trump's EO.
https://morningconsult.com/2017/02/08/trump-approval-rating-slides-despite-support-travel-ban/
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Embarrassing.dignin said:
Let's put this in perspective.BS44325 said:
Check the morning consult poll I linked to above. He's over 50% on the EO.mickeyrat said:
source for your assertion "a majority of voters" agree with this?BS44325 said:
What a hilarious post. Politically he wins on this no matter what. All that was defeated was a temporary 90 day travel ban that a majority of voters agrees with. Now the Democratic party has to run against tougher security measures and in support of a ridiculous court ruling that will clearly be overturned. Trump and the GOP can continue to run on judges and security which is a winner year after year. Lastly in a crazy turn of events a Ninth Circuit Judge has just requested an en banc review of the ruling by the entire court. This isn't the administration requesting a review but a Ninth Circuit judge him/herself. This shows concern of the weakness of their position and concern about legislation to break up the Ninth Circuit which has been discussed for years. The hysteria of the left continues to cloud the big picture and the Democrats would be insane to make opposition to the EO part of their platform. It is a massive loser.mrussel1 said:
We all have to be sure we call this a defeat... the news needs to position it as such. That will really irk him.my2hands said:Not going to appeal to SCOTUS... redraft coming
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/02/10/ninth-circuit-court-now-demands-it-be-protected-from-itself/
seems implausible given he garnered less than half of those who did in fact vote, much less the additional 90+million who were eligible but didnt vote at all.
Most Donald Trump supporters still think the 'Bowling Green Massacre' is real
Kellyanne Conway made up the terrorist attack in Kentucky to justify the President's travel ban on people from seven Muslim-majority countries
In a new poll, 51 per cent of Trump voters agreed that "the Bowling Green Massacre shows why Mr Trump’s immigration policy is needed".
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-supporters-bowling-green-massacre-real-kellyanne-conway-misspoke-masterminds-white-a7573701.html
And fuels the slack jawed yokel stereotype that Trump supporters become so indignant over."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
I don't know anything about him. He could see the world like GF for exampleBS44325 said:
C'mon. It's basically calling Ryme stupid. That he is too "low-information" to know that there are already restrictions in place. What nonsense.mrussel1 said:
You went after him for being precise when the poster was imprecise. I'm just saying words matter, even missing words. No one knows what Ryme knows..not even you.BS44325 said:
This is beneath you.mrussel1 said:
Words matter. We didn't realize you were his interpreter. And I think you should be careful assuming that every Trump voter knew that there was an immigration, visa, and green card policy in place already. But you are already know that.BS44325 said:^^^
He clearly means "additional" restrictions. Of course you already know that. This is an example of the disingenuous left.0 -
Maybe it's 1938 Italy?BS44325 said:
One of the great moment of insanity. People who believe we are in 1938 Germany are insane.HesCalledDyer said:Jim Jefferies telling Piers Morgan to fuck off on live television is one of the great moments in TV history.
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Good luck with that. The neocon view of the world is one of privileged white Christians, with little tolerance for anyone else. No thank you. When did I compare Putin's actions with The previous actions of the US?BS44325 said:
I don't think anybody has successfully called me out yet. I also have only spent my time defending the defensible. What I find "indefensible" is when Trump goes all Halifax/Polaris by comparing Putin's actions to previous US actions...that shit's just insane. Do I still think he's "brilliant"? Hmmm...I flip flop back and forth on that everyday. I mean clearly he is "brilliant" but what I an interested is in results and the two don't always go hand and hand. That being said I believe he is playing his cards right to have the best chance at achieveing results. Add to that his ability to resist the progressive/media rage that no other republican would have the intestinal fortitude to withstand and my belief in his abilities only increases.Halifax2TheMax said:
Typical of your response. Oh how the right hates being called out. And how they hate defending the indefensible. Y'all just wish us libs would disappear. You still think Trump is "brilliant" don't you?BS44325 said:
This is beneath you.mrussel1 said:
Words matter. We didn't realize you were his interpreter. And I think you should be careful assuming that every Trump voter knew that there was an immigration, visa, and green card policy in place already. But you are already know that.BS44325 said:^^^
He clearly means "additional" restrictions. Of course you already know that. This is an example of the disingenuous left.
Now if we can only do something about his Halifaxian worldview and move him in a more neocon direction...09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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No I don't "believe" there was a Bowling Green Massacre. Yes I believed all the democrats and George Tenant who said Iraq had WMD. The decision to invade I supported however for me that was based on more then just weapons...weapons were only a side point for me.tbergs said:
It doesn't read that way. If any president tries to sell that all of a sudden we need to ban certain countries with no known or suspected change in the national threat level that supports this expedited half-assed order, expect lots of questions and pushback. Trump sells it like there were no restrictions before and any terrorist could just get in the country unchecked. Not true. He also is trying to convince us that these 7 countries pose more of a threat than the one's who committed the most recent terror attacks on U.S. soil, all while making it clear that Christians will be given a pass in those countries.BS44325 said:^^^
He clearly means "additional" restrictions. Of course you already know that. This is an example of the disingenuous left.
Did you believe Bush and Cheney when they said Iraq had WMDs and we needed to invade? Do you believe there was a Bowling Green Massacre?
Back on topic though...what is being "sold" to you on restrictions was decided by the previous administration and congress. Those countries were chosen because they are for the most part failed states with weak national governments. That means documentation cannot be verified from those places when compared to Saudia Arabia and/or Pakistan. It is so logical and I will link this article again because clearly you didn't read it.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-72-terrorists-came-from-7-muslim-countries-trump-targeted/article/2614582
Mistake have been made and it would be negligent to not ensure these mistakes don't continue.0 -
Are you joking? You believe Bush and Cheney are war criminals. You have the same view on Iraq that Trump does (so he says). When O'Reilly called Putin "a killer" and Trump said "is the US any better?" that was straight out of the Halifax/Polaris view of American history. It's an indefensible position that you have defended since day one on these boards.Halifax2TheMax said:
Good luck with that. The neocon view of the world is one of privileged white Christians, with little tolerance for anyone else. No thank you. When did I compare Putin's actions with The previous actions of the US?BS44325 said:
I don't think anybody has successfully called me out yet. I also have only spent my time defending the defensible. What I find "indefensible" is when Trump goes all Halifax/Polaris by comparing Putin's actions to previous US actions...that shit's just insane. Do I still think he's "brilliant"? Hmmm...I flip flop back and forth on that everyday. I mean clearly he is "brilliant" but what I an interested is in results and the two don't always go hand and hand. That being said I believe he is playing his cards right to have the best chance at achieveing results. Add to that his ability to resist the progressive/media rage that no other republican would have the intestinal fortitude to withstand and my belief in his abilities only increases.Halifax2TheMax said:
Typical of your response. Oh how the right hates being called out. And how they hate defending the indefensible. Y'all just wish us libs would disappear. You still think Trump is "brilliant" don't you?BS44325 said:
This is beneath you.mrussel1 said:
Words matter. We didn't realize you were his interpreter. And I think you should be careful assuming that every Trump voter knew that there was an immigration, visa, and green card policy in place already. But you are already know that.BS44325 said:^^^
He clearly means "additional" restrictions. Of course you already know that. This is an example of the disingenuous left.
Now if we can only do something about his Halifaxian worldview and move him in a more neocon direction...0 -
Has anyone considered that the 7countries placed on the list was from intelligence that President Trump now knows?
Maybe there is more of a collective threat from those countries combined than the one that is not on the list and has committed the most recent terror attacks.0 -
What are you talking about? What attacks?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:Has anyone considered that the 7countries placed on the list was from intelligence that President Trump now knows?
Maybe there is more of a collective threat from those countries combined than the one that is not on the list and has committed the most recent terror attacks.will myself to find a home, a home within myself
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the next EO will probably include a broader range of countries. it will fail miserably as well.0
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I was responding in part to tbergs comment a few posts back "He also is trying to convince us that these 7 countries pose more of a threat than the one's who committed the most recent terror attacks on U.S. soil",Degeneratefk said:
What are you talking about? What attacks?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:Has anyone considered that the 7countries placed on the list was from intelligence that President Trump now knows?
Maybe there is more of a collective threat from those countries combined than the one that is not on the list and has committed the most recent terror attacks.
but I also had this thought before I read that comment.0 -
Absolutely. Plus current actions are about responding to future threats and not responding to yesterday's terrorist attacks. People on here talk about how Trump should only behave consistently with what has occurred in the past. That is ridiculous.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:Has anyone considered that the 7countries placed on the list was from intelligence that President Trump now knows?
Maybe there is more of a collective threat from those countries combined than the one that is not on the list and has committed the most recent terror attacks.0 -
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Our intelligence is very good and have caused many planned attacks to fail. That's why.Degeneratefk said:
What are you talking about? What attacks?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:Has anyone considered that the 7countries placed on the list was from intelligence that President Trump now knows?
Maybe there is more of a collective threat from those countries combined than the one that is not on the list and has committed the most recent terror attacks.
We don't hear about that because that's how they snub them.Post edited by RYME on0 -
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It hasn't failed...yet. There is only a halt on it until legality is determined. In the end it could very well be a success?vaggar99 said:0
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