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  • Kat said:

    Anyone bidding needs to be reminded that he stiffs his contractors.

    Not one red cent for that stupid wall.

    or rouble.
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  • All you republicans who were bent out of shape over Hilary's e-mails must be outraged Trump uses an unsecured Android & his staff use private email accounts, right?



    Right?

    The DHS estimates the total cost will be $21.6 billion. Most interestingly, they say they'll be handing out contracts by mid-April ... so, this is moving quickly.
    No one cares that the wall is being built?
    Interesting.

    I'll believe it when the first stone is laid.
    It does say something to his word though.
    President Trump is actively seeking builders for the wall and wants to possibly start in April.
    Where is the (pun intended) stonewalling from the opposition on this action?
    his word? you mean is word that is so good that he kept his promise to protect LBGTQ rights like he said he would? that he would repeal ACA on day 1?

    he is nothing but full of shit.
    Good call, let's talk about his word.

    Didn't he say he would release his taxes if he was elected?
  • If anyone thinks this won't be litigated for environmental impacts and from eminent domain issues, you probably also believe Trump won't be impeached.

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  • The dictatorship has begun people better wake up it starts with the press !!!

    If Obama administration would of banned any news outlets from WH briefings the GOP would of gone nuts !!!
    meh
    Everyone has a right what press they want to read or not.
    President Trump is no different.
    I personally don't care who he bans from his press conferences, it will make them work a lot harder for a real story.
    Dictatorship? - extreme reaction
    You should pay attention to the wall contracts that are being sought since other news outlets aren't.
    meh?? A president picking and choosing what media can attend press briefings at the white house because he doesn't like their coverage is meh?? That's insane.

    I can't believe I got sucked into responding to one of your trolling posts. I sure miss that "ignore user" option from the old forum.
  • Kat said:

    Anyone bidding needs to be reminded that he stiffs his contractors.

    Not one red cent for that stupid wall.

    or rouble.
    I think the time has passed to object to this.
    Read it carefully http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/design-build-structure.pdf
    Any contractor bidding for govt contracts know the monies will be there provided they bid right.
    The wall is coming folks.
  • The dictatorship has begun people better wake up it starts with the press !!!

    If Obama administration would of banned any news outlets from WH briefings the GOP would of gone nuts !!!
    meh
    Everyone has a right what press they want to read or not.
    President Trump is no different.
    I personally don't care who he bans from his press conferences, it will make them work a lot harder for a real story.
    Dictatorship? - extreme reaction
    You should pay attention to the wall contracts that are being sought since other news outlets aren't.
    you know that little thing called the US Constitution? Freedom of the Press is not about which paper you read.

    suppressing the press is the first step to dictatorships. that is a fact. however, he won't be able to pull off absolute power, if that's even his ultimate goal, not how the US is set up. he is going to fail miserably, and go down as a big orange stain on the US presidency.
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  • KatKat Posts: 4,866
    The 14 Characteristics of Fascism
    by Lawrence Britt
    Spring 2003
    Free Inquiry magazine


    Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt recently wrote an article about fascism ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20). Studying the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14 elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The excerpt is in accordance with the magazine's policy.

    The 14 characteristics are:

    1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
    Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

    2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
    Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

    3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
    The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

    4. Supremacy of the Military
    Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

    5. Rampant Sexism
    The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

    6. Controlled Mass Media
    Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

    7. Obsession with National Security
    Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

    8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
    Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

    9. Corporate Power is Protected
    The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

    10. Labor Power is Suppressed
    Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .

    11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
    Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

    12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
    Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

    13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
    Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

    14. Fraudulent Elections
    Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

    Copyright © 2003 Free Inquiry magazine
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  • The dictatorship has begun people better wake up it starts with the press !!!

    If Obama administration would of banned any news outlets from WH briefings the GOP would of gone nuts !!!
    meh
    Everyone has a right what press they want to read or not.
    President Trump is no different.
    I personally don't care who he bans from his press conferences, it will make them work a lot harder for a real story.
    Dictatorship? - extreme reaction
    You should pay attention to the wall contracts that are being sought since other news outlets aren't.
    meh?? A president picking and choosing what media can attend press briefings at the white house because he doesn't like their coverage is meh?? That's insane.

    I can't believe I got sucked into responding to one of your trolling posts. I sure miss that "ignore user" option from the old forum.
    You would not have uttered a peep if President Trump banned Fox news.
    Except for cheering.
    The irony.
  • The dictatorship has begun people better wake up it starts with the press !!!

    If Obama administration would of banned any news outlets from WH briefings the GOP would of gone nuts !!!
    meh
    Everyone has a right what press they want to read or not.
    President Trump is no different.
    I personally don't care who he bans from his press conferences, it will make them work a lot harder for a real story.
    Dictatorship? - extreme reaction
    You should pay attention to the wall contracts that are being sought since other news outlets aren't.
    meh?? A president picking and choosing what media can attend press briefings at the white house because he doesn't like their coverage is meh?? That's insane.

    I can't believe I got sucked into responding to one of your trolling posts. I sure miss that "ignore user" option from the old forum.
    You would not have uttered a peep if President Trump banned Fox news.
    Except for cheering.
    The irony.
    LOL. I'm not even going to bother getting into a back and forth here. Complete waste of time with a troll like yourself.

    Hey Kat- can we please have the 'ignore user" feature back?!?!?
  • Spot on Kat.
  • Kat said:

    Anyone bidding needs to be reminded that he stiffs his contractors.

    Not one red cent for that stupid wall.

    or rouble.
    I think the time has passed to object to this.
    Read it carefully http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/design-build-structure.pdf
    Any contractor bidding for govt contracts know the monies will be there provided they bid right.
    The wall is coming folks.
    you aren't understanding a fundamental portion of the process:

    CONGRESS. MUST. APPROVE.

    they very well may, but they also may not. there have been many GOP's that are waiving in support of it, since Mexico has called his bluff and is telling him to go fuck himself. and if he really thinks that charging the american people via added taxes on Mexican goods, he's even dumber than I previously gave him credit for.

    he obviously thinks that by adding taxes to mexican goods, americans simply won't buy said goods, thereby strong-arming mexico financially into paying for it. but americans aren't going to pay american-made prices, even if the same goods are available, which they aren't. he's only going to be hurting his own people. he's a idiot.
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  • The dictatorship has begun people better wake up it starts with the press !!!

    If Obama administration would of banned any news outlets from WH briefings the GOP would of gone nuts !!!
    meh
    Everyone has a right what press they want to read or not.
    President Trump is no different.
    I personally don't care who he bans from his press conferences, it will make them work a lot harder for a real story.
    Dictatorship? - extreme reaction
    You should pay attention to the wall contracts that are being sought since other news outlets aren't.
    meh?? A president picking and choosing what media can attend press briefings at the white house because he doesn't like their coverage is meh?? That's insane.

    I can't believe I got sucked into responding to one of your trolling posts. I sure miss that "ignore user" option from the old forum.
    You would not have uttered a peep if President Trump banned Fox news.
    Except for cheering.
    The irony.
    LOL. I'm not even going to bother getting into a back and forth here. Complete waste of time with a troll like yourself.

    Hey Kat- can we please have the 'ignore user" feature back?!?!?
    +1
  • KatKat Posts: 4,866

    The dictatorship has begun people better wake up it starts with the press !!!

    If Obama administration would of banned any news outlets from WH briefings the GOP would of gone nuts !!!
    meh
    Everyone has a right what press they want to read or not.
    President Trump is no different.
    I personally don't care who he bans from his press conferences, it will make them work a lot harder for a real story.
    Dictatorship? - extreme reaction
    You should pay attention to the wall contracts that are being sought since other news outlets aren't.
    meh?? A president picking and choosing what media can attend press briefings at the white house because he doesn't like their coverage is meh?? That's insane.

    I can't believe I got sucked into responding to one of your trolling posts. I sure miss that "ignore user" option from the old forum.
    You would not have uttered a peep if President Trump banned Fox news.
    Except for cheering.
    The irony.
    LOL. I'm not even going to bother getting into a back and forth here. Complete waste of time with a troll like yourself.

    Hey Kat- can we please have the 'ignore user" feature back?!?!?
    +1
    That was a different forum software. This one doesn't have it. Use your self control because we're all adults and just pass on by someone you don't want to read. I'm sorry...I wish we had that feature for you.
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  • Kat said:

    The dictatorship has begun people better wake up it starts with the press !!!

    If Obama administration would of banned any news outlets from WH briefings the GOP would of gone nuts !!!
    meh
    Everyone has a right what press they want to read or not.
    President Trump is no different.
    I personally don't care who he bans from his press conferences, it will make them work a lot harder for a real story.
    Dictatorship? - extreme reaction
    You should pay attention to the wall contracts that are being sought since other news outlets aren't.
    meh?? A president picking and choosing what media can attend press briefings at the white house because he doesn't like their coverage is meh?? That's insane.

    I can't believe I got sucked into responding to one of your trolling posts. I sure miss that "ignore user" option from the old forum.
    You would not have uttered a peep if President Trump banned Fox news.
    Except for cheering.
    The irony.
    LOL. I'm not even going to bother getting into a back and forth here. Complete waste of time with a troll like yourself.

    Hey Kat- can we please have the 'ignore user" feature back?!?!?
    +1
    That was a different forum software. This one doesn't have it. Use your self control because we're all adults and just pass on by someone you don't want to read. I'm sorry...I wish we had that feature for you.
    No worries, keep up the good work
  • Kat said:

    Anyone bidding needs to be reminded that he stiffs his contractors.

    Not one red cent for that stupid wall.

    or rouble.
    I think the time has passed to object to this.
    Read it carefully http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/design-build-structure.pdf
    Any contractor bidding for govt contracts know the monies will be there provided they bid right.
    The wall is coming folks.
    you aren't understanding a fundamental portion of the process:

    CONGRESS. MUST. APPROVE.

    they very well may, but they also may not. there have been many GOP's that are waiving in support of it, since Mexico has called his bluff and is telling him to go fuck himself. and if he really thinks that charging the american people via added taxes on Mexican goods, he's even dumber than I previously gave him credit for.

    he obviously thinks that by adding taxes to mexican goods, americans simply won't buy said goods, thereby strong-arming mexico financially into paying for it. but americans aren't going to pay american-made prices, even if the same goods are available, which they aren't. he's only going to be hurting his own people. he's a idiot.
    I understand that.
    It is Republican backed congress which will only make this funding approval a smoother process.
    If this story is already hitting the press why is there no opposition or redtape announced publicly by congress as well?
    The funding will be there they will tell you after the winning bid is accepted where it is coming from.
    Govt contracts are a shoe in.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,659

    The dictatorship has begun people better wake up it starts with the press !!!

    If Obama administration would of banned any news outlets from WH briefings the GOP would of gone nuts !!!
    meh
    Everyone has a right what press they want to read or not.
    President Trump is no different.
    I personally don't care who he bans from his press conferences, it will make them work a lot harder for a real story.
    Dictatorship? - extreme reaction
    You should pay attention to the wall contracts that are being sought since other news outlets aren't.
    meh?? A president picking and choosing what media can attend press briefings at the white house because he doesn't like their coverage is meh?? That's insane.

    I can't believe I got sucked into responding to one of your trolling posts. I sure miss that "ignore user" option from the old forum.
    You would not have uttered a peep if President Trump banned Fox news.
    Except for cheering.
    The irony.
    No, that's not true at all. Fox News has every right to be in any press briefing. Don't try to apply your morals and standards to me. I'm actually quite consistent philosophically.
  • So, any Trump supporters want to respond to Kat's post and point out why the Trump administration is not a fascist regime, based upon the 14 characteristics? BS? PJFan? Anyone?
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  • mrussel1 said:

    The dictatorship has begun people better wake up it starts with the press !!!

    If Obama administration would of banned any news outlets from WH briefings the GOP would of gone nuts !!!
    meh
    Everyone has a right what press they want to read or not.
    President Trump is no different.
    I personally don't care who he bans from his press conferences, it will make them work a lot harder for a real story.
    Dictatorship? - extreme reaction
    You should pay attention to the wall contracts that are being sought since other news outlets aren't.
    meh?? A president picking and choosing what media can attend press briefings at the white house because he doesn't like their coverage is meh?? That's insane.

    I can't believe I got sucked into responding to one of your trolling posts. I sure miss that "ignore user" option from the old forum.
    You would not have uttered a peep if President Trump banned Fox news.
    Except for cheering.
    The irony.
    No, that's not true at all. Fox News has every right to be in any press briefing. Don't try to apply your morals and standards to me. I'm actually quite consistent philosophically.
    I wasn't talking to you.
    However whatever Fox News reports from the press briefings would be referred to as faux news by you and others right?
    Fox news has every right to be at any press briefing? - ok, find some other supporters of that statement on here.

  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,659

    mrussel1 said:

    The dictatorship has begun people better wake up it starts with the press !!!

    If Obama administration would of banned any news outlets from WH briefings the GOP would of gone nuts !!!
    meh
    Everyone has a right what press they want to read or not.
    President Trump is no different.
    I personally don't care who he bans from his press conferences, it will make them work a lot harder for a real story.
    Dictatorship? - extreme reaction
    You should pay attention to the wall contracts that are being sought since other news outlets aren't.
    meh?? A president picking and choosing what media can attend press briefings at the white house because he doesn't like their coverage is meh?? That's insane.

    I can't believe I got sucked into responding to one of your trolling posts. I sure miss that "ignore user" option from the old forum.
    You would not have uttered a peep if President Trump banned Fox news.
    Except for cheering.
    The irony.
    No, that's not true at all. Fox News has every right to be in any press briefing. Don't try to apply your morals and standards to me. I'm actually quite consistent philosophically.
    I wasn't talking to you.
    However whatever Fox News reports from the press briefings would be referred to as faux news by you and others right?
    Fox news has every right to be at any press briefing? - ok, find some other supporters of that statement on here.

    Okay.. How many people here think that Fox had every right to be in Obama Press Briefings? How many thought they should be banned because they reported information in a way that was negative to the Obama administration?
  • The dictatorship has begun people better wake up it starts with the press !!!

    If Obama administration would of banned any news outlets from WH briefings the GOP would of gone nuts !!!
    meh
    Everyone has a right what press they want to read or not.
    President Trump is no different.
    I personally don't care who he bans from his press conferences, it will make them work a lot harder for a real story.
    Dictatorship? - extreme reaction
    You should pay attention to the wall contracts that are being sought since other news outlets aren't.
    meh?? A president picking and choosing what media can attend press briefings at the white house because he doesn't like their coverage is meh?? That's insane.

    Here is another response about what the Trump administration has to say about your insane comment.
    True or faux news?
    The president repeatedly slammed the "dishonest media" earlier Friday at the Conservative Political Action Conference, while also saying he respects the First Amendment.
    "I love the First Amendment; nobody loves it better than me. Nobody," he said.
    "But as you saw throughout the entire campaign, and even now, the fake news doesn't tell the truth," he continued. "I say it doesn't represent the people, it doesn't tell the never will represent the people, and we're going to do something about it."
    During the transition, Spicer himself also pledged to shake up the White House press corps once Trump took office.

    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/white-house-hand-picks-select-media-outlets-for-briefing/ar-AAnksO3?ocid=spartanntp
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,659

    So, any Trump supporters want to respond to Kat's post and point out why the Trump administration is not a fascist regime, based upon the 14 characteristics? BS? PJFan? Anyone?

    They aren't fascist. But they have fascist tendencies or fantasies. Like I said, you need the military and the people to accept it. Neither has at this point.
  • mrussel1 said:

    The dictatorship has begun people better wake up it starts with the press !!!

    If Obama administration would of banned any news outlets from WH briefings the GOP would of gone nuts !!!
    meh
    Everyone has a right what press they want to read or not.
    President Trump is no different.
    I personally don't care who he bans from his press conferences, it will make them work a lot harder for a real story.
    Dictatorship? - extreme reaction
    You should pay attention to the wall contracts that are being sought since other news outlets aren't.
    meh?? A president picking and choosing what media can attend press briefings at the white house because he doesn't like their coverage is meh?? That's insane.

    I can't believe I got sucked into responding to one of your trolling posts. I sure miss that "ignore user" option from the old forum.
    You would not have uttered a peep if President Trump banned Fox news.
    Except for cheering.
    The irony.
    No, that's not true at all. Fox News has every right to be in any press briefing. Don't try to apply your morals and standards to me. I'm actually quite consistent philosophically.
    I wasn't talking to you.
    However whatever Fox News reports from the press briefings would be referred to as faux news by you and others right?
    Fox news has every right to be at any press briefing? - ok, find some other supporters of that statement on here.

    Absolutely Fox News has every right and obligation to be at White House press briefings. Did Obama ban them after all the total BS they spread? No. In eight years they spewed total BS and Obama never banned them. CNN, WP, NYT, etc. report facts and get banned. What are they hiding? Why so afraid of the press? They're afraid of the money being followed and Russia, Russia, Russia because they used Putin's playbook to a T.

    Follow the money, impeach Trump.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    Kat said:

    The 14 Characteristics of Fascism
    by Lawrence Britt
    Spring 2003
    Free Inquiry magazine


    Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt recently wrote an article about fascism ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20). Studying the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14 elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The excerpt is in accordance with the magazine's policy.

    The 14 characteristics are:

    1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
    Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

    2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
    Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

    3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
    The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

    4. Supremacy of the Military
    Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

    5. Rampant Sexism
    The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

    6. Controlled Mass Media
    Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

    7. Obsession with National Security
    Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

    8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
    Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

    9. Corporate Power is Protected
    The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

    10. Labor Power is Suppressed
    Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .

    11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
    Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

    12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
    Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

    13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
    Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

    14. Fraudulent Elections
    Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

    Copyright © 2003 Free Inquiry magazine

    Good reminder. And without spending any time thinking about it, it is pretty easy to come up with examples of Trump's activity his first month in office that fits in these buckets.
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  • The dictatorship has begun people better wake up it starts with the press !!!

    If Obama administration would of banned any news outlets from WH briefings the GOP would of gone nuts !!!
    meh
    Everyone has a right what press they want to read or not.
    President Trump is no different.
    I personally don't care who he bans from his press conferences, it will make them work a lot harder for a real story.
    Dictatorship? - extreme reaction
    You should pay attention to the wall contracts that are being sought since other news outlets aren't.
    meh?? A president picking and choosing what media can attend press briefings at the white house because he doesn't like their coverage is meh?? That's insane.

    I can't believe I got sucked into responding to one of your trolling posts. I sure miss that "ignore user" option from the old forum.
    You would not have uttered a peep if President Trump banned Fox news.
    Except for cheering.
    The irony.
    bollocks.
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    jeffbr said:

    It looks like some CPAC attendees got punked and were given Russian flags to waive during Trump's speech there. :lol:



    this is the best. i only wish i could troll trumpsters this hard.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,430
    edited February 2017
    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    The dictatorship has begun people better wake up it starts with the press !!!

    If Obama administration would of banned any news outlets from WH briefings the GOP would of gone nuts !!!
    meh
    Everyone has a right what press they want to read or not.
    President Trump is no different.
    I personally don't care who he bans from his press conferences, it will make them work a lot harder for a real story.
    Dictatorship? - extreme reaction
    You should pay attention to the wall contracts that are being sought since other news outlets aren't.
    meh?? A president picking and choosing what media can attend press briefings at the white house because he doesn't like their coverage is meh?? That's insane.

    I can't believe I got sucked into responding to one of your trolling posts. I sure miss that "ignore user" option from the old forum.
    You would not have uttered a peep if President Trump banned Fox news.
    Except for cheering.
    The irony.
    No, that's not true at all. Fox News has every right to be in any press briefing. Don't try to apply your morals and standards to me. I'm actually quite consistent philosophically.
    I wasn't talking to you.
    However whatever Fox News reports from the press briefings would be referred to as faux news by you and others right?
    Fox news has every right to be at any press briefing? - ok, find some other supporters of that statement on here.

    Okay.. How many people here think that Fox had every right to be in Obama Press Briefings? How many thought they should be banned because they reported information in a way that was negative to the Obama administration?
    Fox has much right to be there as CNN, MSNBC & the rest of the established outlets.

    First amendment rights.

    First amendment rights.

    First amendment rights.

    (Edit for typo)
    Post edited by Merkin Baller on
  • mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    The dictatorship has begun people better wake up it starts with the press !!!

    If Obama administration would of banned any news outlets from WH briefings the GOP would of gone nuts !!!
    meh
    Everyone has a right what press they want to read or not.
    President Trump is no different.
    I personally don't care who he bans from his press conferences, it will make them work a lot harder for a real story.
    Dictatorship? - extreme reaction
    You should pay attention to the wall contracts that are being sought since other news outlets aren't.
    meh?? A president picking and choosing what media can attend press briefings at the white house because he doesn't like their coverage is meh?? That's insane.

    I can't believe I got sucked into responding to one of your trolling posts. I sure miss that "ignore user" option from the old forum.
    You would not have uttered a peep if President Trump banned Fox news.
    Except for cheering.
    The irony.
    No, that's not true at all. Fox News has every right to be in any press briefing. Don't try to apply your morals and standards to me. I'm actually quite consistent philosophically.
    I wasn't talking to you.
    However whatever Fox News reports from the press briefings would be referred to as faux news by you and others right?
    Fox news has every right to be at any press briefing? - ok, find some other supporters of that statement on here.

    Okay.. How many people here think that Fox had every right to be in Obama Press Briefings? How many thought they should be banned because they reported information in a way that was negative to the Obama administration?
    *raises hand at first question*

    sometimes Obama made snide remarks about Fox News. I thought they were funny, not because I'm a hypocrite, but because fox news is generally so openly biased in their reporting, it's borderline laughable. But trump is doing something completely different. obama made a joke here and there, but he never openly stated they were fake, or banned them from briefings.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited February 2017

    So, any Trump supporters want to respond to Kat's post and point out why the Trump administration is not a fascist regime, based upon the 14 characteristics? BS? PJFan? Anyone?

    Like I've stated before.
    The far left has gone too far with their fear and disbelief of their current President.
    This isn't happening and belongs with the comments from people about Hitler stuff.
    The leftists in your country are scaring themselves to death
  • KatKat Posts: 4,866
    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    The dictatorship has begun people better wake up it starts with the press !!!

    If Obama administration would of banned any news outlets from WH briefings the GOP would of gone nuts !!!
    meh
    Everyone has a right what press they want to read or not.
    President Trump is no different.
    I personally don't care who he bans from his press conferences, it will make them work a lot harder for a real story.
    Dictatorship? - extreme reaction
    You should pay attention to the wall contracts that are being sought since other news outlets aren't.
    meh?? A president picking and choosing what media can attend press briefings at the white house because he doesn't like their coverage is meh?? That's insane.

    I can't believe I got sucked into responding to one of your trolling posts. I sure miss that "ignore user" option from the old forum.
    You would not have uttered a peep if President Trump banned Fox news.
    Except for cheering.
    The irony.
    No, that's not true at all. Fox News has every right to be in any press briefing. Don't try to apply your morals and standards to me. I'm actually quite consistent philosophically.
    I wasn't talking to you.
    However whatever Fox News reports from the press briefings would be referred to as faux news by you and others right?
    Fox news has every right to be at any press briefing? - ok, find some other supporters of that statement on here.

    Okay.. How many people here think that Fox had every right to be in Obama Press Briefings? How many thought they should be banned because they reported information in a way that was negative to the Obama administration?
    The press *has* to be there. That's what protects our democracy...and that's slipping away, if people allow it. It's un-American to ban the press. It's a Russian thing, right?
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • The dictatorship has begun people better wake up it starts with the press !!!

    If Obama administration would of banned any news outlets from WH briefings the GOP would of gone nuts !!!
    meh
    Everyone has a right what press they want to read or not.
    President Trump is no different.
    I personally don't care who he bans from his press conferences, it will make them work a lot harder for a real story.
    Dictatorship? - extreme reaction
    You should pay attention to the wall contracts that are being sought since other news outlets aren't.
    meh?? A president picking and choosing what media can attend press briefings at the white house because he doesn't like their coverage is meh?? That's insane.

    I can't believe I got sucked into responding to one of your trolling posts. I sure miss that "ignore user" option from the old forum.
    You would not have uttered a peep if President Trump banned Fox news.
    Except for cheering.
    The irony.
    bollocks.
    bollocks to who?
    me, indifference or yourself?
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