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  • The Juggler
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    my2hands said:
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    mrussel1 said:
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    dignin said:
    The Juggler said:ng to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?
    Well wacky Stone coordinating the release of stolen emails on behalf of the campaign is a criminal conspiracy.  The cyber theft is serious.  I don't know that Trump will be personally implicated since here doesn't use emails,  but members of his campaign would likely be,  including Stone.  You don't find that appalling and serious?
    So that's your smoking gun? That's the result of a 2 year investigation? Roger f'ing Stone talking to Wikileaks is it?

    If that's it, this is all a fail
    Talking and coordinating are very different.  You are using verbs that deliberately downplay a criminal conspiracy.  Second,  you continue to ignore the multitude of crimes that have been prosecuted.   Third,  you are listening to talking heads that need something to discuss 24/7. How about letting it play out before you render judgment? That would be novel. 
    I am not listening to any talking heads... I see headlines and I read between the lines... trust me, I dont waste my time listening to paid pundits who say anything to support their team

    Ok... coordinating... if that's all you've got, it's a fail and wont effect Trump in the slightest 

    I'm not ignoring the other prosecutions, they have absolutely nothing to do with Trump, collusion, or being compromised.... so yeah, they mean squat at the end of the day
    If you read the actual articles instead of just the headlines, maybe you’d know more. Like how the Stormy Daniels issue is unrelated to the Russia investigation. 


    Exactly. Someone's way out of their depth. They let the cat out of the bag when they bragged about how they ignore mainstream news.

    And let's not forget Manafort was giving detailed polling data to Russian agents. Yeah, nothing to see here, all a giant fail. Let's pack up and go home.
    I'm way out of my depth? You're an f'ing Canadian obsessed with American politics and have a Trump avatar... c'mon now poser, you don't really give AF, it's just entertainment to you... you don't add squat here, you just seem to follow me around and make wise ass comments in between nodding in agreement with the echo chamber

    And you can use my name, no need to be a coward when you talk smack

    Let me show you how to do it, nice and direct.... do you have a problem with me signing? If so, speak up 

    That goes for almost ALL of you.... you turn into a bunch of pricks when someone dare not agree or go with the bullshit echo chamber in here... you gang up, you talk shit, and you literally circle that person and try to bully them... been watching it, tried to call you guys out on it,  but now it's time to not play so nice... and it's always the same clowns... here's my advice, get off my jock... 

    Disagree with me respectfully, or keep it moving... otherwise I'm calling your ass out


    I’m not buying what you’re selling, sale denied. Okay, say you’re right. So what?
     
    He claims victory... is on the ballot in 2020 clean... and has a chance at re-election

    All the eggs have been put into the Mueller basket, and it's just not going to resonate with the average voter... and will likely energize the GOP heading into the election... 

    That's what
    I disagree.  Pelosi never argued impeachment and has aggressively kept the caucus in line about it.  She remembers the 90s. Democrats won't run on Russia. They didn't at the midterms. The danger right now is the party being painted as too socialist.  That's a much graver concern than a weak Mueller report. 
    She hasnt argued impeachment because they have nothing... which is my whole point I'm trying to make to the Muellerites in here 

    They didnt run on Russia, because again, they have nothing to run with that on

    I agree on the last part, far too many Americans think socialism is evil and dont realize we are almost there any damn way... I have the same concern.... but when the focus for 2 years has been Russia and the Mueller report, and it doesnt deliver, that's a huge fucking problem 
    In one post, you say all their eggs are in the Russia basket. In another you admit they didn’t run on Russia (which is correct).


    You are all over the map, fella. 
    Was Trump on the ballot? Was the investigation completed? When it gets completed, if Trump isnt touched, you can expect a massive fucking victory lap by him that will.ladt through November 2020

    You're one of the main cheerleaders in here going on and on and on about this report.... pretty sure you've also gleefully waited for impeachment as a result of this investigation..... so I think it's fair to say you personally have a lot of eggs in the Mueller basket, just like the rest of us.... and now you are even starting to hedge your bet on this, because you know my concerns just might be valid

    Also........ you voted for W twice........ sooooo, yeah. Talk about being all over the map 🤣
    Do you think this is the only investigation?

    Two years ago I said it would probably be something related to money laundering that would ultimately bring him down. Guess what the SDNY is looking into? Mueller gets the headlines but there’s a reason why people say he has more to worry about with what the SDNY finds. 

    Read the articles, not just the headlines. 
    Riggggght..... more investigations.... that will last until the election.... and likely prove nothing

    So you've assumed the past two years that the Russia investigation wouldn't show he colluded and compromised, and that it wouldn't bring him down. 

    What is it...  is he a stooge for Putin, or just a crooked business guy?

    You're hedging your bet

    You should have read more articles in the Bush years
    Why can’t it be both? The investigations have been ongoing. They’re not just gonna stop all of a sudden. 

    All due respect, I don’t think someone who believes Stormy Daniels was part of the Russia investigation is equipped to have this conversation. It’s almost as bad as your takes on the midterms. Brutal.

    Read more than just headlines please. 
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  • my2hands
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    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    The Juggler said:ng to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?
    Well wacky Stone coordinating the release of stolen emails on behalf of the campaign is a criminal conspiracy.  The cyber theft is serious.  I don't know that Trump will be personally implicated since here doesn't use emails,  but members of his campaign would likely be,  including Stone.  You don't find that appalling and serious?
    So that's your smoking gun? That's the result of a 2 year investigation? Roger f'ing Stone talking to Wikileaks is it?

    If that's it, this is all a fail
    Talking and coordinating are very different.  You are using verbs that deliberately downplay a criminal conspiracy.  Second,  you continue to ignore the multitude of crimes that have been prosecuted.   Third,  you are listening to talking heads that need something to discuss 24/7. How about letting it play out before you render judgment? That would be novel. 
    I am not listening to any talking heads... I see headlines and I read between the lines... trust me, I dont waste my time listening to paid pundits who say anything to support their team

    Ok... coordinating... if that's all you've got, it's a fail and wont effect Trump in the slightest 

    I'm not ignoring the other prosecutions, they have absolutely nothing to do with Trump, collusion, or being compromised.... so yeah, they mean squat at the end of the day
    If you read the actual articles instead of just the headlines, maybe you’d know more. Like how the Stormy Daniels issue is unrelated to the Russia investigation. 


    Exactly. Someone's way out of their depth. They let the cat out of the bag when they bragged about how they ignore mainstream news.

    And let's not forget Manafort was giving detailed polling data to Russian agents. Yeah, nothing to see here, all a giant fail. Let's pack up and go home.
    I'm way out of my depth? You're an f'ing Canadian obsessed with American politics and have a Trump avatar... c'mon now poser, you don't really give AF, it's just entertainment to you... you don't add squat here, you just seem to follow me around and make wise ass comments in between nodding in agreement with the echo chamber

    And you can use my name, no need to be a coward when you talk smack

    Let me show you how to do it, nice and direct.... do you have a problem with me signing? If so, speak up 

    That goes for almost ALL of you.... you turn into a bunch of pricks when someone dare not agree or go with the bullshit echo chamber in here... you gang up, you talk shit, and you literally circle that person and try to bully them... been watching it, tried to call you guys out on it,  but now it's time to not play so nice... and it's always the same clowns... here's my advice, get off my jock... 

    Disagree with me respectfully, or keep it moving... otherwise I'm calling your ass out


    I’m not buying what you’re selling, sale denied. Okay, say you’re right. So what?
     
    He claims victory... is on the ballot in 2020 clean... and has a chance at re-election

    All the eggs have been put into the Mueller basket, and it's just not going to resonate with the average voter... and will likely energize the GOP heading into the election... 

    That's what
    I disagree.  Pelosi never argued impeachment and has aggressively kept the caucus in line about it.  She remembers the 90s. Democrats won't run on Russia. They didn't at the midterms. The danger right now is the party being painted as too socialist.  That's a much graver concern than a weak Mueller report. 
    She hasnt argued impeachment because they have nothing... which is my whole point I'm trying to make to the Muellerites in here 

    They didnt run on Russia, because again, they have nothing to run with that on

    I agree on the last part, far too many Americans think socialism is evil and dont realize we are almost there any damn way... I have the same concern.... but when the focus for 2 years has been Russia and the Mueller report, and it doesnt deliver, that's a huge fucking problem 
    In one post, you say all their eggs are in the Russia basket. In another you admit they didn’t run on Russia (which is correct).


    You are all over the map, fella. 
    Was Trump on the ballot? Was the investigation completed? When it gets completed, if Trump isnt touched, you can expect a massive fucking victory lap by him that will.ladt through November 2020

    You're one of the main cheerleaders in here going on and on and on about this report.... pretty sure you've also gleefully waited for impeachment as a result of this investigation..... so I think it's fair to say you personally have a lot of eggs in the Mueller basket, just like the rest of us.... and now you are even starting to hedge your bet on this, because you know my concerns just might be valid

    Also........ you voted for W twice........ sooooo, yeah. Talk about being all over the map 🤣
    Do you think this is the only investigation?

    Two years ago I said it would probably be something related to money laundering that would ultimately bring him down. Guess what the SDNY is looking into? Mueller gets the headlines but there’s a reason why people say he has more to worry about with what the SDNY finds. 

    Read the articles, not just the headlines. 
    Riggggght.....
    Why can’t it be both? The investigations have been ongoing. They’re not just gonna stop all of a sudden. 

    All due respect, I don’t think someone who believes Stormy Daniels was part of the Russia investigation is equipped to have this conversation. It’s almost as bad as your takes on the midterms. Brutal.

    Read more than just headlines please. 
    Oh lord, you guys and your semantics... nice trick on trying to find a small slight to discredit someone

    Please forgive me for confusing all of the different investigations/scandals of the past 2+ years and not keeping an exactly accurate accounting in my journal of said scandals... 

    The raid on Cohens office is widely thought to have happened as a result of findings from the Mueller investigation... I'm pretty sure the Stormy hush money was transferred to Cohens shell in Delaware by a Russian... sooooo, yeah, they are certainly connected....

    but thanks for being a condescending jerk, meanwhile you supported war criminals, so save the lectures 
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  • The Juggler
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    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    The Juggler said:ng to do with Trump or the campaign, 
    So that's your smoking gun? That's the result of a 2 year investigation? Roger f'ing Stone talking to Wikileaks is it?

    If that's it, this is all a fail
    Talking and coordinating are very different.  You are using verbs that deliberately downplay a criminal conspiracy.  Second,  you continue to ignore the multitude of crimes that have been prosecuted.   Third,  you are listening to talking heads that need something to discuss 24/7. How about letting it play out before you render judgment? That would be novel. 
    I am not listening to any talking heads... I see headlines and I read between the lines... trust me, I dont waste my time listening to paid pundits who say anything to support their team

    Ok... coordinating... if that's all you've got, it's a fail and wont effect Trump in the slightest 

    I'm not ignoring the other prosecutions, they have absolutely nothing to do with Trump, collusion, or being compromised.... so yeah, they mean squat at the end of the day
    If you read the actual articles instead of just the headlines, maybe you’d know more. Like how the Stormy Daniels issue is unrelated to the Russia investigation. 


    Exactly. Someone's way out of their depth. They let the cat out of the bag when they bragged about how they ignore mainstream news.

    And let's not forget Manafort was giving detailed polling data to Russian agents. Yeah, nothing to see here, all a giant fail. Let's pack up and go home.
    I'm way out of my depth? You're an f'ing Canadian obsessed with American politics and have a Trump avatar... c'mon now poser, you don't really give AF, it's just entertainment to you... you don't add squat here, you just seem to follow me around and make wise ass comments in between nodding in agreement with the echo chamber

    And you can use my name, no need to be a coward when you talk smack

    Let me show you how to do it, nice and direct.... do you have a problem with me signing? If so, speak up 

    That goes for almost ALL of you.... you turn into a bunch of pricks when someone dare not agree or go with the bullshit echo chamber in here... you gang up, you talk shit, and you literally circle that person and try to bully them... been watching it, tried to call you guys out on it,  but now it's time to not play so nice... and it's always the same clowns... here's my advice, get off my jock... 

    Disagree with me respectfully, or keep it moving... otherwise I'm calling your ass out


    I’m not buying what you’re selling, sale denied. Okay, say you’re right. So what?
     
    He claims victory... is on the ballot in 2020 clean... and has a chance at re-election

    All the eggs have been put into the Mueller basket, and it's just not going to resonate with the average voter... and will likely energize the GOP heading into the election... 

    That's what
    I disagree.  Pelosi never argued impeachment and has aggressively kept the caucus in line about it.  She remembers the 90s. Democrats won't run on Russia. They didn't at the midterms. The danger right now is the party being painted as too socialist.  That's a much graver concern than a weak Mueller report. 
    She hasnt argued impeachment because they have nothing... which is my whole point I'm trying to make to the Muellerites in here 

    They didnt run on Russia, because again, they have nothing to run with that on

    I agree on the last part, far too many Americans think socialism is evil and dont realize we are almost there any damn way... I have the same concern.... but when the focus for 2 years has been Russia and the Mueller report, and it doesnt deliver, that's a huge fucking problem 
    In one post, you say all their eggs are in the Russia basket. In another you admit they didn’t run on Russia (which is correct).


    You are all over the map, fella. 
    Was Trump on the ballot? Was the investigation completed? When it gets completed, if Trump isnt touched, you can expect a massive fucking victory lap by him that will.ladt through November 2020

    You're one of the main cheerleaders in here going on and on and on about this report.... pretty sure you've also gleefully waited for impeachment as a result of this investigation..... so I think it's fair to say you personally have a lot of eggs in the Mueller basket, just like the rest of us.... and now you are even starting to hedge your bet on this, because you know my concerns just might be valid

    Also........ you voted for W twice........ sooooo, yeah. Talk about being all over the map 🤣
    Do you think this is the only investigation?

    Two years ago I said it would probably be something related to money laundering that would ultimately bring him down. Guess what the SDNY is looking into? Mueller gets the headlines but there’s a reason why people say he has more to worry about with what the SDNY finds. 

    Read the articles, not just the headlines. 
    Riggggght.....
    Why can’t it be both? The investigations have been ongoing. They’re not just gonna stop all of a sudden. 

    All due respect, I don’t think someone who believes Stormy Daniels was part of the Russia investigation is equipped to have this conversation. It’s almost as bad as your takes on the midterms. Brutal.

    Read more than just headlines please. 
    Oh lord, you guys and your semantics... nice trick on trying to find a small slight to discredit someone

    Please forgive me for confusing all of the different investigations/scandals of the past 2+ years and not keeping an exactly accurate accounting in my journal of said scandals... 

    The raid on Cohens office is widely thought to have happened as a result of findings from the Mueller investigation... I'm pretty sure the Stormy hush money was transferred to Cohens shell in Delaware by a Russian... sooooo, yeah, they are certainly connected....

    but thanks for being a condescending jerk, meanwhile you supported war criminals, so save the lectures 
    It’s easy to get confused. There’s so many investigations that’s part of the problem. Also why you should read more than just the headlines though...
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  • When you're bored, read this.

    https://www.justice.gov/file/1115596/download
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  • This helps with understanding as well.

    https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117

    As long as you realize they are connected

    And stop with the headlines garbage, you're taking something out of context and applying it broadly... my comment on the headlines was strictly about the Mueller report being brief, and how that's supposed to be a good thing because it will he a road map to other investigations... like I said, preparing folks for a soft landing that it might be a dud

    But feel free to continue with your schtick if it makes you feel superior

    Probably supported water boarding, black rendition sites, and Guantanamo didn't you? 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,812
    my2hands said:
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    mrussel1 said:
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    dignin said:
    The Juggler said:ng to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?
    Well wacky Stone coordinating the release of stolen emails on behalf of the campaign is a criminal conspiracy.  The cyber theft is serious.  I don't know that t appalling and serious?
    So that's your smoking gun? That's the result of a 2 year investigation? Roger f'ing Stone talking to Wikileaks is it?

    If that's it, this is all a fail
    Talking and coordinating are very different.  You are using verbs that deliberately downplay a criminal conspiracy.  Second,  you continue to ignore the multitude of crimes that have been prosecuted.   Third,  you are listening to talking heads that need something to discuss 24/7. How about letting it play out before you render judgment? That would be novel. 
    I am not listening to any talking heads... I see headlines and I read between the lines... trust me, I dont waste my time listening to paid pundits who say anything to support their team

    Ok... coordinating... if that's all you've got, it's a fail and wont effect Trump in the slightest 

    I'm not ignoring the other prosecutions, they have absolutely nothing to do with Trump, collusion, or being compromised.... so yeah, they mean squat at the end of the day
    If you read the actual articles instead of just the headlines, maybe you’d know more. Like how the Stormy Daniels issue is unrelated to the Russia investigation. 


    Exactly. Someone's way out of their depth. They let the cat out of the bag when they bragged about how they ignore mainstream news.

    And let's not forget Manafort was giving detailed polling data to Russian agents. Yeah, nothing to see here, all a giant fail. Let's pack up and go home.
    I'm way out of my depth? You're an f'ing Canadian obsessed with American politics and have a Trump avatar... c'mon now poser, you don't really give AF, it's just entertainment to you... you don't add squat here, you just seem to follow me around and make wise ass comments in between nodding in agreement with the echo chamber

    And you can use my name, no need to be a coward when you talk smack

    Let me show you how to do it, nice and direct.... do you have a problem with me signing? If so, speak up 

    That goes for almost ALL of you.... you turn into a bunch of pricks when someone dare not agree or go with the bullshit echo chamber in here... you gang up, you talk shit, and you literally circle that person and try to bully them... been watching it, tried to call you guys out on it,  but now it's time to not play so nice... and it's always the same clowns... here's my advice, get off my jock... 

    Disagree with me respectfully, or keep it moving... otherwise I'm calling your ass out


    I’m not buying what you’re selling, sale denied. Okay, say you’re right. So what?
     
    He claims victory... is on the ballot in 2020 clean... and has a chance at re-election

    All the eggs have been put into the Mueller basket, and it's just not going to resonate with the average voter... and will likely energize the GOP heading into the election... 

    That's what
    I disagree.  Pelosi never argued impeachment and has aggressively kept the caucus in line about it.  She remembers the 90s. Democrats won't run on Russia. They didn't at the midterms. The danger right now is the party being painted as too socialist.  That's a much graver concern than a weak Mueller report. 
    She hasnt argued impeachment because they have nothing... which is my whole point I'm trying to make to the Muellerites in here 

    They didnt run on Russia, because again, they have nothing to run with that on

    I agree on the last part, far too many Americans think socialism is evil and dont realize we are almost there any damn way... I have the same concern.... but when the focus for 2 years has been Russia and the Mueller report, and it doesnt deliver, that's a huge fucking problem 
    In one post, you say all their eggs are in the Russia basket. In another you admit they didn’t run on Russia (which is correct).


    You are all over the map, fella. 
    Was Trump on the ballot? Was the investigation completed? When it gets completed, if Trump isnt touched, you can expect a massive fucking victory lap by him that will.ladt through November 2020

    You're one of the main cheerleaders in here going on and on and on about this report.... pretty sure you've also gleefully waited for impeachment as a result of this investigation..... so I think it's fair to say you personally have a lot of eggs in the Mueller basket, just like the rest of us.... and now you are even starting to hedge your bet on this, because you know my concerns just might be valid

    Also........ you voted for W twice........ sooooo, yeah. Talk about being all over the map 🤣
    Do you think this is the only investigation?

    Two years ago I said it would probably be something related to money laundering that would ultimately bring him down. Guess what the SDNY is looking into? Mueller gets the headlines but there’s a reason why people say he has more to worry about with what the SDNY finds. 

    Read the articles, not just the headlines. 
    Riggggght.....
    Why can’t it be both? The investigations have been ongoing. They’re not just gonna stop all of a sudden. 

    All due respect, I don’t think someone who believes Stormy Daniels was part of the Russia investigation is equipped to have this conversation. It’s almost as bad as your takes on the midterms. Brutal.

    Read more than just headlines please. 
    Oh lord, you guys and your semantics... nice trick on trying to find a small slight to discredit someone

    Please forgive me for confusing all of the different investigations/scandals of the past 2+ years and not keeping an exactly accurate accounting in my journal of said scandals... 

    The raid on Cohens office is widely thought to have happened as a result of findings from the Mueller investigation... I'm pretty sure the Stormy hush money was transferred to Cohens shell in Delaware by a Russian... sooooo, yeah, they are certainly connected....

    but thanks for being a condescending jerk, meanwhile you supported war criminals, so save the lectures 
    There is likely damning evidence that Trump committed seven felonies and one misdemeanor.

    Please explain how in any way shape or form that "Trump isn't touched"
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117

    "Likely"... powerful word


    We'll see
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,812
    Barr is AG for one week and the right is on fire about shutting down the Mueller investigation.


    An open question to the righties: there has been a couple of judges that have seen what is under those annoying black bars on Mueller's court filings, from the hundreds of pages of redactions. Judges presiding over Flynn, Manafort and Cohen, et al.

    Have you taken the time to see how pissed off these judges are after they read the fully unredacted documents?

    One simple line of advice, pay less attention to your party loyalty and more attention to this. Thanks.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Barr is AG for one week and the right is on fire about shutting down the Mueller investigation.


    An open question to the righties: there has been a couple of judges that have seen what is under those annoying black bars on Mueller's court filings, from the hundreds of pages of redactions. Judges presiding over Flynn, Manafort and Cohen, et al.

    Have you taken the time to see how pissed off these judges are after they read the fully unredacted documents?

    One simple line of advice, pay less attention to your party loyalty and more attention to this. Thanks.

    there are no "righties" here anymore.... they have all been belittled, harassed, and chased away
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,809
    I was going to ask who he/she was referring to with "righties"...

    We have very few if any left.  The board has gone ape shit.  It's not about discussing anything it's about posting a link to your favorite anti-trump article and then letting everyone chime in with name calling and other rah rah bullshit.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Wow. Trying to get another thread locked again.

    We get it, your feelings got hurt. Pick yourselves up, dust yourselves off.

    And if you can't, it's probably time to move on.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Nice addition, as usual.

    You're part of the problem mentioned above
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    *waits for more passive aggressive condescension*
  • Kat
    Kat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,955
    Knock. it. off. 
    Discuss the topic, not each other.
    Admin
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,809
    dignin said:
    Wow. Trying to get another thread locked again.

    We get it, your feelings got hurt. Pick yourselves up, dust yourselves off.

    And if you can't, it's probably time to move on.
    Honest question - who still posts here very often that is even a little right of center. It’s a pretty short list and seems to be getting shorter 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    edited February 2019