Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    Obviously most of us agree that if Trump is guilty of collusion with Russia, he should be impeached and arrested.  The problem is, after all this time, no guilt has been legally established.  Meanwhile, all the focus on collusion provides much public distraction from issue like campaign finance (making it possible for someone like Trump to become president) or the wall.  Unless guilt is established soon, I would actually opt to focus on a good candidate to win 2020.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.


    Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

    If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?
    Well wacky Stone coordinating the release of stolen emails on behalf of the campaign is a criminal conspiracy.  The cyber theft is serious.  I don't know that Trump will be personally implicated since here doesn't use emails,  but members of his campaign would likely be,  including Stone.  You don't find that appalling and serious?
    So that's your smoking gun? That's the result of a 2 year investigation? Roger f'ing Stone talking to Wikileaks is it?

    If that's it, this is all a fail
    Talking and coordinating are very different.  You are using verbs that deliberately downplay a criminal conspiracy.  Second,  you continue to ignore the multitude of crimes that have been prosecuted.   Third,  you are listening to talking heads that need something to discuss 24/7. How about letting it play out before you render judgment? That would be novel. 
    I am not listening to any talking heads... I see headlines and I read between the lines... trust me, I dont waste my time listening to paid pundits who say anything to support their team

    Ok... coordinating... if that's all you've got, it's a fail and wont effect Trump in the slightest 

    I'm not ignoring the other prosecutions, they have absolutely nothing to do with Trump, collusion, or being compromised.... so yeah, they mean squat at the end of the day
    If you read the actual articles instead of just the headlines, maybe you’d know more. Like how the Stormy Daniels issue is unrelated to the Russia investigation. 


    Exactly. Someone's way out of their depth. They let the cat out of the bag when they bragged about how they ignore mainstream news.

    And let's not forget Manafort was giving detailed polling data to Russian agents. Yeah, nothing to see here, all a giant fail. Let's pack up and go home.
    I'm way out of my depth? You're an f'ing Canadian obsessed with American politics and have a Trump avatar... c'mon now poser, you don't really give AF, it's just entertainment to you... you don't add squat here, you just seem to follow me around and make wise ass comments in between nodding in agreement with the echo chamber

    And you can use my name, no need to be a coward when you talk smack

    Let me show you how to do it, nice and direct.... do you have a problem with me digning? If so, speak up 

    That goes for almost ALL of you.... you turn into a bunch of pricks when someone dare not agree or go with the bullshit echo chamber in here... you gang up, you talk shit, and you literally circle that person and try to bully them... been watching it, tried to call you guys out on it,  but now it's time to not play so nice... and it's always the same clowns... here's my advice, get off my jock... 

    Disagree with me respectfully, or keep it moving... otherwise I'm calling your ass out


    There is so much contradiction and humour in this post. Like I said, always good for a laugh.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.


    Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

    If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?
    Well wacky Stone coordinating the release of stolen emails on behalf of the campaign is a criminal conspiracy.  The cyber theft is serious.  I don't know that Trump will be personally implicated since here doesn't use emails,  but members of his campaign would likely be,  including Stone.  You don't find that appalling and serious?
    So that's your smoking gun? That's the result of a 2 year investigation? Roger f'ing Stone talking to Wikileaks is it?

    If that's it, this is all a fail
    Talking and coordinating are very different.  You are using verbs that deliberately downplay a criminal conspiracy.  Second,  you continue to ignore the multitude of crimes that have been prosecuted.   Third,  you are listening to talking heads that need something to discuss 24/7. How about letting it play out before you render judgment? That would be novel. 
    I am not listening to any talking heads... I see headlines and I read between the lines... trust me, I dont waste my time listening to paid pundits who say anything to support their team

    Ok... coordinating... if that's all you've got, it's a fail and wont effect Trump in the slightest 

    I'm not ignoring the other prosecutions, they have absolutely nothing to do with Trump, collusion, or being compromised.... so yeah, they mean squat at the end of the day
    If you read the actual articles instead of just the headlines, maybe you’d know more. Like how the Stormy Daniels issue is unrelated to the Russia investigation. 


    Exactly. Someone's way out of their depth. They let the cat out of the bag when they bragged about how they ignore mainstream news.

    And let's not forget Manafort was giving detailed polling data to Russian agents. Yeah, nothing to see here, all a giant fail. Let's pack up and go home.
    I'm way out of my depth? You're an f'ing Canadian obsessed with American politics and have a Trump avatar... c'mon now poser, you don't really give AF, it's just entertainment to you... you don't add squat here, you just seem to follow me around and make wise ass comments in between nodding in agreement with the echo chamber

    And you can use my name, no need to be a coward when you talk smack

    Let me show you how to do it, nice and direct.... do you have a problem with me digning? If so, speak up 

    That goes for almost ALL of you.... you turn into a bunch of pricks when someone dare not agree or go with the bullshit echo chamber in here... you gang up, you talk shit, and you literally circle that person and try to bully them... been watching it, tried to call you guys out on it,  but now it's time to not play so nice... and it's always the same clowns... here's my advice, get off my jock... 

    Disagree with me respectfully, or keep it moving... otherwise I'm calling your ass out


    I am fascinated with this direction as well.  
    mrussel1, you're totally cool in my book... one of the best posters here hands down, much better than me lol... you're the friendly neighborhood moderate and are always fair, pragmatic, and polite... and you disagree and make your points without being a jerk...  frankly I give you an A+ rating and put you in the AMT HOF

  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.


    Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

    If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?
    Well wacky Stone coordinating the release of stolen emails on behalf of the campaign is a criminal conspiracy.  The cyber theft is serious.  I don't know that Trump will be personally implicated since here doesn't use emails,  but members of his campaign would likely be,  including Stone.  You don't find that appalling and serious?
    So that's your smoking gun? That's the result of a 2 year investigation? Roger f'ing Stone talking to Wikileaks is it?

    If that's it, this is all a fail
    Talking and coordinating are very different.  You are using verbs that deliberately downplay a criminal conspiracy.  Second,  you continue to ignore the multitude of crimes that have been prosecuted.   Third,  you are listening to talking heads that need something to discuss 24/7. How about letting it play out before you render judgment? That would be novel. 
    I am not listening to any talking heads... I see headlines and I read between the lines... trust me, I dont waste my time listening to paid pundits who say anything to support their team

    Ok... coordinating... if that's all you've got, it's a fail and wont effect Trump in the slightest 

    I'm not ignoring the other prosecutions, they have absolutely nothing to do with Trump, collusion, or being compromised.... so yeah, they mean squat at the end of the day
    If you read the actual articles instead of just the headlines, maybe you’d know more. Like how the Stormy Daniels issue is unrelated to the Russia investigation. 


    Exactly. Someone's way out of their depth. They let the cat out of the bag when they bragged about how they ignore mainstream news.

    And let's not forget Manafort was giving detailed polling data to Russian agents. Yeah, nothing to see here, all a giant fail. Let's pack up and go home.
    I'm way out of my depth? You're an f'ing Canadian obsessed with American politics and have a Trump avatar... c'mon now poser, you don't really give AF, it's just entertainment to you... you don't add squat here, you just seem to follow me around and make wise ass comments in between nodding in agreement with the echo chamber

    And you can use my name, no need to be a coward when you talk smack

    Let me show you how to do it, nice and direct.... do you have a problem with me signing? If so, speak up 

    That goes for almost ALL of you.... you turn into a bunch of pricks when someone dare not agree or go with the bullshit echo chamber in here... you gang up, you talk shit, and you literally circle that person and try to bully them... been watching it, tried to call you guys out on it,  but now it's time to not play so nice... and it's always the same clowns... here's my advice, get off my jock... 

    Disagree with me respectfully, or keep it moving... otherwise I'm calling your ass out


    I’m not buying what you’re selling, sale denied. Okay, say you’re right. So what?
     
    He claims victory... is on the ballot in 2020 clean... and has a chance at re-election

    All the eggs have been put into the Mueller basket, and it's just not going to resonate with the average voter... and will likely energize the GOP heading into the election... 

    That's what
    I disagree.  Pelosi never argued impeachment and has aggressively kept the caucus in line about it.  She remembers the 90s. Democrats won't run on Russia. They didn't at the midterms. The danger right now is the party being painted as too socialist.  That's a much graver concern than a weak Mueller report. 
    She hasnt argued impeachment because they have nothing... which is my whole point I'm trying to make to the Muellerites in here 

    They didnt run on Russia, because again, they have nothing to run with that on

    I agree on the last part, far too many Americans think socialism is evil and dont realize we are almost there any damn way... I have the same concern.... but when the focus for 2 years has been Russia and the Mueller report, and it doesnt deliver, that's a huge fucking problem 
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.


    Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

    If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?
    Well wacky Stone coordinating the release of stolen emails on behalf of the campaign is a criminal conspiracy.  The cyber theft is serious.  I don't know that Trump will be personally implicated since here doesn't use emails,  but members of his campaign would likely be,  including Stone.  You don't find that appalling and serious?
    So that's your smoking gun? That's the result of a 2 year investigation? Roger f'ing Stone talking to Wikileaks is it?

    If that's it, this is all a fail
    Talking and coordinating are very different.  You are using verbs that deliberately downplay a criminal conspiracy.  Second,  you continue to ignore the multitude of crimes that have been prosecuted.   Third,  you are listening to talking heads that need something to discuss 24/7. How about letting it play out before you render judgment? That would be novel. 
    I am not listening to any talking heads... I see headlines and I read between the lines... trust me, I dont waste my time listening to paid pundits who say anything to support their team

    Ok... coordinating... if that's all you've got, it's a fail and wont effect Trump in the slightest 

    I'm not ignoring the other prosecutions, they have absolutely nothing to do with Trump, collusion, or being compromised.... so yeah, they mean squat at the end of the day
    If you read the actual articles instead of just the headlines, maybe you’d know more. Like how the Stormy Daniels issue is unrelated to the Russia investigation. 


    Exactly. Someone's way out of their depth. They let the cat out of the bag when they bragged about how they ignore mainstream news.

    And let's not forget Manafort was giving detailed polling data to Russian agents. Yeah, nothing to see here, all a giant fail. Let's pack up and go home.
    I'm way out of my depth? You're an f'ing Canadian obsessed with American politics and have a Trump avatar... c'mon now poser, you don't really give AF, it's just entertainment to you... you don't add squat here, you just seem to follow me around and make wise ass comments in between nodding in agreement with the echo chamber

    And you can use my name, no need to be a coward when you talk smack

    Let me show you how to do it, nice and direct.... do you have a problem with me digning? If so, speak up 

    That goes for almost ALL of you.... you turn into a bunch of pricks when someone dare not agree or go with the bullshit echo chamber in here... you gang up, you talk shit, and you literally circle that person and try to bully them... been watching it, tried to call you guys out on it,  but now it's time to not play so nice... and it's always the same clowns... here's my advice, get off my jock... 

    Disagree with me respectfully, or keep it moving... otherwise I'm calling your ass out


    There is so much contradiction and humour in this post. Like I said, always good for a laugh.
    Ahhhhhh, thanks for adding, again. 

    Dear Canadian.... I checked the Canadian politics thread... you have 2 posts in there in 2019, both smart remarks about meltdown with nothing else added

    Meanwhile you have 1000 posts about American politics and a f'ing lame Trump avatar 

    You're a poser bro, beat it
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.


    Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

    If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?
    Well wacky Stone coordinating the release of stolen emails on behalf of the campaign is a criminal conspiracy.  The cyber theft is serious.  I don't know that Trump will be personally implicated since here doesn't use emails,  but members of his campaign would likely be,  including Stone.  You don't find that appalling and serious?
    So that's your smoking gun? That's the result of a 2 year investigation? Roger f'ing Stone talking to Wikileaks is it?

    If that's it, this is all a fail
    Talking and coordinating are very different.  You are using verbs that deliberately downplay a criminal conspiracy.  Second,  you continue to ignore the multitude of crimes that have been prosecuted.   Third,  you are listening to talking heads that need something to discuss 24/7. How about letting it play out before you render judgment? That would be novel. 
    I am not listening to any talking heads... I see headlines and I read between the lines... trust me, I dont waste my time listening to paid pundits who say anything to support their team

    Ok... coordinating... if that's all you've got, it's a fail and wont effect Trump in the slightest 

    I'm not ignoring the other prosecutions, they have absolutely nothing to do with Trump, collusion, or being compromised.... so yeah, they mean squat at the end of the day
    If you read the actual articles instead of just the headlines, maybe you’d know more. Like how the Stormy Daniels issue is unrelated to the Russia investigation. 


    Exactly. Someone's way out of their depth. They let the cat out of the bag when they bragged about how they ignore mainstream news.

    And let's not forget Manafort was giving detailed polling data to Russian agents. Yeah, nothing to see here, all a giant fail. Let's pack up and go home.
    I'm way out of my depth? You're an f'ing Canadian obsessed with American politics and have a Trump avatar... c'mon now poser, you don't really give AF, it's just entertainment to you... you don't add squat here, you just seem to follow me around and make wise ass comments in between nodding in agreement with the echo chamber

    And you can use my name, no need to be a coward when you talk smack

    Let me show you how to do it, nice and direct.... do you have a problem with me digning? If so, speak up 

    That goes for almost ALL of you.... you turn into a bunch of pricks when someone dare not agree or go with the bullshit echo chamber in here... you gang up, you talk shit, and you literally circle that person and try to bully them... been watching it, tried to call you guys out on it,  but now it's time to not play so nice... and it's always the same clowns... here's my advice, get off my jock... 

    Disagree with me respectfully, or keep it moving... otherwise I'm calling your ass out


    There is so much contradiction and humour in this post. Like I said, always good for a laugh.
    Ahhhhhh, thanks for adding, again. 

    Dear Canadian.... I checked the Canadian politics thread... you have 2 posts in there in 2019, both smart remarks about meltdown with nothing else added

    Meanwhile you have 1000 posts about American politics and a f'ing lame Trump avatar 

    You're a poser bro, beat it
    You've figured me all out.

    Now how about stop the insults and chill out so this thread doesn't get closed.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.


    Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

    If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?
    Well wacky Stone coordinating the release of stolen emails on behalf of the campaign is a criminal conspiracy.  The cyber theft is serious.  I don't know that Trump will be personally implicated since here doesn't use emails,  but members of his campaign would likely be,  including Stone.  You don't find that appalling and serious?
    So that's your smoking gun? That's the result of a 2 year investigation? Roger f'ing Stone talking to Wikileaks is it?

    If that's it, this is all a fail
    Talking and coordinating are very different.  You are using verbs that deliberately downplay a criminal conspiracy.  Second,  you continue to ignore the multitude of crimes that have been prosecuted.   Third,  you are listening to talking heads that need something to discuss 24/7. How about letting it play out before you render judgment? That would be novel. 
    I am not listening to any talking heads... I see headlines and I read between the lines... trust me, I dont waste my time listening to paid pundits who say anything to support their team

    Ok... coordinating... if that's all you've got, it's a fail and wont effect Trump in the slightest 

    I'm not ignoring the other prosecutions, they have absolutely nothing to do with Trump, collusion, or being compromised.... so yeah, they mean squat at the end of the day
    If you read the actual articles instead of just the headlines, maybe you’d know more. Like how the Stormy Daniels issue is unrelated to the Russia investigation. 


    Exactly. Someone's way out of their depth. They let the cat out of the bag when they bragged about how they ignore mainstream news.

    And let's not forget Manafort was giving detailed polling data to Russian agents. Yeah, nothing to see here, all a giant fail. Let's pack up and go home.
    I'm way out of my depth? You're an f'ing Canadian obsessed with American politics and have a Trump avatar... c'mon now poser, you don't really give AF, it's just entertainment to you... you don't add squat here, you just seem to follow me around and make wise ass comments in between nodding in agreement with the echo chamber

    And you can use my name, no need to be a coward when you talk smack

    Let me show you how to do it, nice and direct.... do you have a problem with me digning? If so, speak up 

    That goes for almost ALL of you.... you turn into a bunch of pricks when someone dare not agree or go with the bullshit echo chamber in here... you gang up, you talk shit, and you literally circle that person and try to bully them... been watching it, tried to call you guys out on it,  but now it's time to not play so nice... and it's always the same clowns... here's my advice, get off my jock... 

    Disagree with me respectfully, or keep it moving... otherwise I'm calling your ass out


    I am fascinated with this direction as well.  
    mrussel1, you're totally cool in my book... one of the best posters here hands down, much better than me lol... you're the friendly neighborhood moderate and are always fair, pragmatic, and polite... and you disagree and make your points without being a jerk...  frankly I give you an A+ rating and put you in the AMT HOF

    Well I feel good.  Thanks. 
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Poser - a person who acts in an affected manner in order to impress others

    Insult, or fact........ you decide 
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.


    Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

    If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?
    Well wacky Stone coordinating the release of stolen emails on behalf of the campaign is a criminal conspiracy.  The cyber theft is serious.  I don't know that Trump will be personally implicated since here doesn't use emails,  but members of his campaign would likely be,  including Stone.  You don't find that appalling and serious?
    So that's your smoking gun? That's the result of a 2 year investigation? Roger f'ing Stone talking to Wikileaks is it?

    If that's it, this is all a fail
    Talking and coordinating are very different.  You are using verbs that deliberately downplay a criminal conspiracy.  Second,  you continue to ignore the multitude of crimes that have been prosecuted.   Third,  you are listening to talking heads that need something to discuss 24/7. How about letting it play out before you render judgment? That would be novel. 
    I am not listening to any talking heads... I see headlines and I read between the lines... trust me, I dont waste my time listening to paid pundits who say anything to support their team

    Ok... coordinating... if that's all you've got, it's a fail and wont effect Trump in the slightest 

    I'm not ignoring the other prosecutions, they have absolutely nothing to do with Trump, collusion, or being compromised.... so yeah, they mean squat at the end of the day
    If you read the actual articles instead of just the headlines, maybe you’d know more. Like how the Stormy Daniels issue is unrelated to the Russia investigation. 


    Exactly. Someone's way out of their depth. They let the cat out of the bag when they bragged about how they ignore mainstream news.

    And let's not forget Manafort was giving detailed polling data to Russian agents. Yeah, nothing to see here, all a giant fail. Let's pack up and go home.
    I'm way out of my depth? You're an f'ing Canadian obsessed with American politics and have a Trump avatar... c'mon now poser, you don't really give AF, it's just entertainment to you... you don't add squat here, you just seem to follow me around and make wise ass comments in between nodding in agreement with the echo chamber

    And you can use my name, no need to be a coward when you talk smack

    Let me show you how to do it, nice and direct.... do you have a problem with me digning? If so, speak up 

    That goes for almost ALL of you.... you turn into a bunch of pricks when someone dare not agree or go with the bullshit echo chamber in here... you gang up, you talk shit, and you literally circle that person and try to bully them... been watching it, tried to call you guys out on it,  but now it's time to not play so nice... and it's always the same clowns... here's my advice, get off my jock... 

    Disagree with me respectfully, or keep it moving... otherwise I'm calling your ass out


    I am fascinated with this direction as well.  
    mrussel1, you're totally cool in my book... one of the best posters here hands down, much better than me lol... you're the friendly neighborhood moderate and are always fair, pragmatic, and polite... and you disagree and make your points without being a jerk...  frankly I give you an A+ rating and put you in the AMT HOF

    Well I feel good.  Thanks. 
    No seriously, I'm not kissing your ass, definitely one of the best posters here, like I said much better than me lol
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.


    Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

    If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?
    Well wacky Stone coordinating the release of stolen emails on behalf of the campaign is a criminal conspiracy.  The cyber theft is serious.  I don't know that Trump will be personally implicated since here doesn't use emails,  but members of his campaign would likely be,  including Stone.  You don't find that appalling and serious?
    So that's your smoking gun? That's the result of a 2 year investigation? Roger f'ing Stone talking to Wikileaks is it?

    If that's it, this is all a fail
    Talking and coordinating are very different.  You are using verbs that deliberately downplay a criminal conspiracy.  Second,  you continue to ignore the multitude of crimes that have been prosecuted.   Third,  you are listening to talking heads that need something to discuss 24/7. How about letting it play out before you render judgment? That would be novel. 
    I am not listening to any talking heads... I see headlines and I read between the lines... trust me, I dont waste my time listening to paid pundits who say anything to support their team

    Ok... coordinating... if that's all you've got, it's a fail and wont effect Trump in the slightest 

    I'm not ignoring the other prosecutions, they have absolutely nothing to do with Trump, collusion, or being compromised.... so yeah, they mean squat at the end of the day
    If you read the actual articles instead of just the headlines, maybe you’d know more. Like how the Stormy Daniels issue is unrelated to the Russia investigation. 


    Exactly. Someone's way out of their depth. They let the cat out of the bag when they bragged about how they ignore mainstream news.

    And let's not forget Manafort was giving detailed polling data to Russian agents. Yeah, nothing to see here, all a giant fail. Let's pack up and go home.
    I'm way out of my depth? You're an f'ing Canadian obsessed with American politics and have a Trump avatar... c'mon now poser, you don't really give AF, it's just entertainment to you... you don't add squat here, you just seem to follow me around and make wise ass comments in between nodding in agreement with the echo chamber

    And you can use my name, no need to be a coward when you talk smack

    Let me show you how to do it, nice and direct.... do you have a problem with me digning? If so, speak up 

    That goes for almost ALL of you.... you turn into a bunch of pricks when someone dare not agree or go with the bullshit echo chamber in here... you gang up, you talk shit, and you literally circle that person and try to bully them... been watching it, tried to call you guys out on it,  but now it's time to not play so nice... and it's always the same clowns... here's my advice, get off my jock... 

    Disagree with me respectfully, or keep it moving... otherwise I'm calling your ass out



    Have you considered that when people disagree with you, it isn't a vast conspiracy, it's just that they disagree with you?
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Also, I don't think I'm the only one who finds it distasteful that we are apparently supposed to be sorted by nationality when we post. 
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    America’s long history of meddling in other countries’ elections
    https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/americas-long-history-of-meddling-in-other-countries-elections?fbclid=IwAR11_88hHsrgZOpCMc0UxAGtNROu3NSox5QEd7qrDch7JizkTxcsUdLY8u8

    Why should anyone care if the Russians meddled in US elections?  The US does nothing but meddle, interfere and bully the world.  Not to mention the sanctions imposed in Venezuela that I am sure has played a role in the near collapse of another country that apparently does not play ball like the rest of the American puppets.   And if you voted for W, then you supported a war criminal, if you voted twice for him, you knew he was a war criminal and there was no excuse.  Voting for W a 2nd time is far worse than voting for Trump...
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    edited February 2019
    Japan to push ahead with U.S. base relocation despite Okinawa referendum result

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-japan-okinawa-idUSKCN1QE06Q?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5c736e351adf640001efc10f&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR0GUoIa2raBGyPk8lc5gifEngbVJGzuzoEQmJocByGe9s8g8hOI-L0Aufc

    More US democracy spread world wide.  The people of Japan don't want you there, but the Japenese puppet government just ignores the democratic will of the people and poof we will build military base anyways.  
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  • brianlux
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    Also, I don't think I'm the only one who finds it distasteful that we are apparently supposed to be sorted by nationality when we post. 
    Say, that's a good point.  Just call me earthling!
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  • Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,810
    America’s long history of meddling in other countries’ elections
    https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/americas-long-history-of-meddling-in-other-countries-elections?fbclid=IwAR11_88hHsrgZOpCMc0UxAGtNROu3NSox5QEd7qrDch7JizkTxcsUdLY8u8

    Why should anyone care if the Russians meddled in US elections?  The US does nothing but meddle, interfere and bully the world.  Not to mention the sanctions imposed in Venezuela that I am sure has played a role in the near collapse of another country that apparently does not play ball like the rest of the American puppets.   And if you voted for W, then you supported a war criminal, if you voted twice for him, you knew he was a war criminal and there was no excuse.  Voting for W a 2nd time is far worse than voting for Trump...
    Ummm america should still care no? Why wouldn’t they? You don’t have to. Lots of weird other points made here that don’t really go together.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    America’s long history of meddling in other countries’ elections
    https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/americas-long-history-of-meddling-in-other-countries-elections?fbclid=IwAR11_88hHsrgZOpCMc0UxAGtNROu3NSox5QEd7qrDch7JizkTxcsUdLY8u8

    Why should anyone care if the Russians meddled in US elections?  The US does nothing but meddle, interfere and bully the world.  Not to mention the sanctions imposed in Venezuela that I am sure has played a role in the near collapse of another country that apparently does not play ball like the rest of the American puppets.   And if you voted for W, then you supported a war criminal, if you voted twice for him, you knew he was a war criminal and there was no excuse.  Voting for W a 2nd time is far worse than voting for Trump...
    Ummm america should still care no? Why wouldn’t they? You don’t have to. Lots of weird other points made here that don’t really go together.
    You can not go on and on about Russia when your government is doing the same and usually worse (not you personally).  It's the game that the superpowers are partaking in...but by far the US has committed plenty of war crimes the past 60 + years in their need to control and bully the world.  Also if Trump has committed treasonous acts like some say, why he is still in power, if the team of lawyers investigating him have any evidence that trump or his campaign were traitors, then why is Trump still in power?  You mean those lawyers who are investigating him found evidence of treason and did not get him removed from power would make absolute 0 sense.

    There are some Americans who seriously need to take a close in-depth look at their own country and the corruptness in both parties.  

    But 2hands is right about one thing, this is entertainment gold to me.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    America’s long history of meddling in other countries’ elections
    https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/americas-long-history-of-meddling-in-other-countries-elections?fbclid=IwAR11_88hHsrgZOpCMc0UxAGtNROu3NSox5QEd7qrDch7JizkTxcsUdLY8u8

    Why should anyone care if the Russians meddled in US elections?  The US does nothing but meddle, interfere and bully the world.  Not to mention the sanctions imposed in Venezuela that I am sure has played a role in the near collapse of another country that apparently does not play ball like the rest of the American puppets.   And if you voted for W, then you supported a war criminal, if you voted twice for him, you knew he was a war criminal and there was no excuse.  Voting for W a 2nd time is far worse than voting for Trump...
    Ummm america should still care no? Why wouldn’t they? You don’t have to. Lots of weird other points made here that don’t really go together.
    You can not go on and on about Russia when your government is doing the same and usually worse (not you personally).  It's the game that the superpowers are partaking in...but by far the US has committed plenty of war crimes the past 60 + years in their need to control and bully the world.  Also if Trump has committed treasonous acts like some say, why he is still in power, if the team of lawyers investigating him have any evidence that trump or his campaign were traitors, then why is Trump still in power?  You mean those lawyers who are investigating him found evidence of treason and did not get him removed from power would make absolute 0 sense.

    There are some Americans who seriously need to take a close in-depth look at their own country and the corruptness in both parties.  

    But 2hands is right about one thing, this is entertainment gold to me.
    There is a distinction though.. I don't blame Russia for trying it (although they are a gangster regime, let's be clear).  The important part is whether the Trump campaign was aware, complicit or conspired to be part of it.  I think you can admit that's a bridge too far.  
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.


    Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

    If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?
    Well wacky Stone coordinating the release of stolen emails on behalf of the campaign is a criminal conspiracy.  The cyber theft is serious.  I don't know that Trump will be personally implicated since here doesn't use emails,  but members of his campaign would likely be,  including Stone.  You don't find that appalling and serious?
    So that's your smoking gun? That's the result of a 2 year investigation? Roger f'ing Stone talking to Wikileaks is it?

    If that's it, this is all a fail
    Talking and coordinating are very different.  You are using verbs that deliberately downplay a criminal conspiracy.  Second,  you continue to ignore the multitude of crimes that have been prosecuted.   Third,  you are listening to talking heads that need something to discuss 24/7. How about letting it play out before you render judgment? That would be novel. 
    I am not listening to any talking heads... I see headlines and I read between the lines... trust me, I dont waste my time listening to paid pundits who say anything to support their team

    Ok... coordinating... if that's all you've got, it's a fail and wont effect Trump in the slightest 

    I'm not ignoring the other prosecutions, they have absolutely nothing to do with Trump, collusion, or being compromised.... so yeah, they mean squat at the end of the day
    If you read the actual articles instead of just the headlines, maybe you’d know more. Like how the Stormy Daniels issue is unrelated to the Russia investigation. 


    Exactly. Someone's way out of their depth. They let the cat out of the bag when they bragged about how they ignore mainstream news.

    And let's not forget Manafort was giving detailed polling data to Russian agents. Yeah, nothing to see here, all a giant fail. Let's pack up and go home.
    I'm way out of my depth? You're an f'ing Canadian obsessed with American politics and have a Trump avatar... c'mon now poser, you don't really give AF, it's just entertainment to you... you don't add squat here, you just seem to follow me around and make wise ass comments in between nodding in agreement with the echo chamber

    And you can use my name, no need to be a coward when you talk smack

    Let me show you how to do it, nice and direct.... do you have a problem with me signing? If so, speak up 

    That goes for almost ALL of you.... you turn into a bunch of pricks when someone dare not agree or go with the bullshit echo chamber in here... you gang up, you talk shit, and you literally circle that person and try to bully them... been watching it, tried to call you guys out on it,  but now it's time to not play so nice... and it's always the same clowns... here's my advice, get off my jock... 

    Disagree with me respectfully, or keep it moving... otherwise I'm calling your ass out


    I’m not buying what you’re selling, sale denied. Okay, say you’re right. So what?
     
    He claims victory... is on the ballot in 2020 clean... and has a chance at re-election

    All the eggs have been put into the Mueller basket, and it's just not going to resonate with the average voter... and will likely energize the GOP heading into the election... 

    That's what
    I disagree.  Pelosi never argued impeachment and has aggressively kept the caucus in line about it.  She remembers the 90s. Democrats won't run on Russia. They didn't at the midterms. The danger right now is the party being painted as too socialist.  That's a much graver concern than a weak Mueller report. 
    She hasnt argued impeachment because they have nothing... which is my whole point I'm trying to make to the Muellerites in here 

    They didnt run on Russia, because again, they have nothing to run with that on

    I agree on the last part, far too many Americans think socialism is evil and dont realize we are almost there any damn way... I have the same concern.... but when the focus for 2 years has been Russia and the Mueller report, and it doesnt deliver, that's a huge fucking problem 
    In one post, you say all their eggs are in the Russia basket. In another you admit they didn’t run on Russia (which is correct).


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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mrussel1 said:
    America’s long history of meddling in other countries’ elections
    https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/americas-long-history-of-meddling-in-other-countries-elections?fbclid=IwAR11_88hHsrgZOpCMc0UxAGtNROu3NSox5QEd7qrDch7JizkTxcsUdLY8u8

    Why should anyone care if the Russians meddled in US elections?  The US does nothing but meddle, interfere and bully the world.  Not to mention the sanctions imposed in Venezuela that I am sure has played a role in the near collapse of another country that apparently does not play ball like the rest of the American puppets.   And if you voted for W, then you supported a war criminal, if you voted twice for him, you knew he was a war criminal and there was no excuse.  Voting for W a 2nd time is far worse than voting for Trump...
    Ummm america should still care no? Why wouldn’t they? You don’t have to. Lots of weird other points made here that don’t really go together.
    You can not go on and on about Russia when your government is doing the same and usually worse (not you personally).  It's the game that the superpowers are partaking in...but by far the US has committed plenty of war crimes the past 60 + years in their need to control and bully the world.  Also if Trump has committed treasonous acts like some say, why he is still in power, if the team of lawyers investigating him have any evidence that trump or his campaign were traitors, then why is Trump still in power?  You mean those lawyers who are investigating him found evidence of treason and did not get him removed from power would make absolute 0 sense.

    There are some Americans who seriously need to take a close in-depth look at their own country and the corruptness in both parties.  

    But 2hands is right about one thing, this is entertainment gold to me.
    There is a distinction though.. I don't blame Russia for trying it (although they are a gangster regime, let's be clear).  The important part is whether the Trump campaign was aware, complicit or conspired to be part of it.  I think you can admit that's a bridge too far.  
    Agreed