Russia's Influence On The American Election

dignin

Post everything related to the influence Russia may have had on the American election here.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us/obama-russia-election-hack.html

Free

Let's eat it right up. It's all their fault!!!!

PJfanwillneverleave1

Zero

dignin

Free said:

Let's eat it right up. It's all their fault!!!!

Maybe you missed the "may have had" part. If you have any evidence to the contrary of their possible involvement, feel free to post it here.

Whether you like it or not, this is a huge story.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Now we're talking in "may have hads"?
Some people just can't accept the loss and are still in mourning.

dignin

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Now we're talking in "may have hads"?
Some people just can't accept the loss and are still in mourning.

Yeah, that's what we do here....we talk about current events.

Go troll somewhere else.

BS44325

dignin said:

Free said:

Let's eat it right up. It's all their fault!!!!

Maybe you missed the "may have had" part. If you have any evidence to the contrary of their possible involvement, feel free to post it here.

Whether you like it or not, this is a huge story.

While the unnamed CIA source details a "consensus view" the washington post article itself actually shows the absence of evidence.

“do not have specific intelligence showing officials in the Kremlin ‘directing’ the identified individuals to pass the Democratic emails to WikiLeaks"

So while assumptions are made there is actually very little "there there".

I'm sure you have read the whole thing

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.3b5068182693

dignin

Trump, mocking claim that Russia hacked election is at odds with GOP.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/10/us/politics/trump-mocking-claim-that-russia-hacked-election-at-odds-with-gop.html?action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

BS44325

dignin said:

Trump, mocking claim that Russia hacked election is at odds with GOP.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/10/us/politics/trump-mocking-claim-that-russia-hacked-election-at-odds-with-gop.html?action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

He should mock it because the concept that Hillary lost "because of" hacking is mockable. That doesn't mean hacking didn't occur but the idea that there is a straight line from that hack to Clinton's loss is silly. The rust belt didn't flip because of the Russians.

PJfanwillneverleave1

dignin said:

Trump, mocking claim that Russia hacked election is at odds with GOP.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/10/us/politics/trump-mocking-claim-that-russia-hacked-election-at-odds-with-gop.html?action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

From the article “These are the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction,” Mr. Trump’s team said, adding that the election was over and that it was time to “move on.”

This latest current event will pass like grease on Teflon.

BS44325

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

dignin said:

Trump, mocking claim that Russia hacked election is at odds with GOP.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/10/us/politics/trump-mocking-claim-that-russia-hacked-election-at-odds-with-gop.html?action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

From the article “These are the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction,” Mr. Trump’s team said, adding that the election was over and that it was time to “move on.”

This latest current event will pass like grease on Teflon.

The AMT is all over the place with it's faith in the CIA.

PJfanwillneverleave1

^^^
This election has scattered all the libs/radlibs. (and a lot on AMT)
They have no refuge and don't know how to function anymore.
They are becoming delusional.

dignin

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

Trump, mocking claim that Russia hacked election is at odds with GOP.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/10/us/politics/trump-mocking-claim-that-russia-hacked-election-at-odds-with-gop.html?action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

He should mock it because the concept that Hillary lost "because of" hacking is mockable. That doesn't mean hacking didn't occur but the idea that there is a straight line from that hack to Clinton's loss is silly. The rust belt didn't flip because of the Russians.

You are missing the point. This is about an outside force influencing the American election (according to the CIA). Not about who won or lost.

You are on the wrong side if you think this shouldn't be investigated. Go where the evidence leads you. If they find nothing, great, we can move on. Trump outright dismissing it is, not surprisingly, bad judgment.

BS44325

Where is the advocacy to see Obama get tough and/or respond to Russia? I have been calling for more resolve on the Putin thread way before this hacking event ever took place. It makes me wonder if anybody really cares about Russian aggression. The truth is that on the AMT it is the American right that is enemy number one and Russia is only of interest in how it may have helped in it's ascendence.

dignin

BS44325 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

dignin said:

Trump, mocking claim that Russia hacked election is at odds with GOP.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/10/us/politics/trump-mocking-claim-that-russia-hacked-election-at-odds-with-gop.html?action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

From the article “These are the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction,” Mr. Trump’s team said, adding that the election was over and that it was time to “move on.”

This latest current event will pass like grease on Teflon.

The AMT is all over the place with it's faith in the CIA.

So your argument is that the CIA has been wrong before, therefore they are always wrong? Got ya, that sounds like the smart path.

Guess Trump should just eliminate the CIA altogether.

PJfanwillneverleave1

^^^
You are pushing an investigation on what?
Unless you have something why investigate?
How about you start by saying how you think (not what the news says) Russia was involved.

questioning is not trolling

dignin

The CIA has concluded in a secret assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump win the presidency, rather than just to undermine confidence in the U.S. electoral system, according to officials briefed on the matter.

The CIA shared its latest assessment with key senators in a closed-door briefing on Capitol Hill last week, in which agency officials cited a growing body of intelligence from multiple sources. Agency briefers told the senators it was now “quite clear” that electing Trump was Russia’s goal, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_russiahack-745p:homepage/story&utm_term=.12269174754f

JimmyV

This is an issue that should cut beyond partisanship, particularly if you are an American citizen. If there is even a chance that a foreign government involved itself and influenced our election OF COURSE that possibility should be investigated. It shouldn't matter who won or who lost. Instead we quickly retreat to our safe, happy corners and hide behind our irrational hatred of Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton or the GOP, etc etc.

Let's find out what happened. There will be time enough and plenty of other venues to continue the same old partisan battles.

PJfanwillneverleave1

JimmyV said:

This is an issue that should cut beyond partisanship, particularly if you are an American citizen. If there is even a chance that a foreign government involved itself and influenced our election OF COURSE that possibility should be investigated. It shouldn't matter who won or who lost. Instead we quickly retreat to our safe, happy corners and hide behind our irrational hatred of Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton or the GOP, etc etc.

Let's find out what happened. There will be time enough and plenty of other venues to continue the same old partisan battles.

America liberals/radlibs are so divided now since President-elect Trump has won they can't stop yelling at the top of their lungs that it is Russias' fault.
It's exhausting listening to faux news on this non-issue.

dignin

Report: Russia hacked RNC, but did not leak info
Intelligence agencies conclude that Republicans were also targeted ahead of election, The New York Times says, though motivation remains unclear

http://www.timesofisrael.com/report-russia-hacked-rnc-but-did-not-leak-info/

So Putin probably has leverage on the GOP. I'm sure there's nothing to worry about.

dignin

JimmyV said:

This is an issue that should cut beyond partisanship, particularly if you are an American citizen. If there is even a chance that a foreign government involved itself and influenced our election OF COURSE that possibility should be investigated. It shouldn't matter who won or who lost. Instead we quickly retreat to our safe, happy corners and hide behind our irrational hatred of Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton or the GOP, etc etc.

Let's find out what happened. There will be time enough and plenty of other venues to continue the same old partisan battles.

Exactly.