The Podesta Emails

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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited October 2016
    Great speech about secrecy by JFK in 1961, if you don't know much about him other then his assassination, he had serious issues with war the Fed reserve and world banks.

    https://www.jfklibrary.org/Research/Research-Aids/JFK-Speeches/American-Newspaper-Publishers-Association_19610427.aspx
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    edited October 2016
    JC29856 said:

    Julian Assange's internet link has been intentionally severed by a state party. We have activated the appropriate contingency plans.

    pre-commitment 1: John Kerry 4bb96075acadc3d80b5ac872874c3037a386f4f595fe99e687439aabd0219809

    pre-commitment 2: Ecuador
    eae5c9b064ed649ba468f0800abf8b56ae5cfe355b93b1ce90a1b92a48a9ab72

    pre-commitment 3: UK FCO f33a6de5c627e3270ed3e02f62cd0c857467a780cf6123d2172d80d02a072f74


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_scheme

    JC, does this mean they shut the site down, because it's not down. I saw the message on Twitter, I read the Wikipedia link. Could you elaborate just a little on this. What does John K. , Ecuador, UK FCo have to do with it?
    I say we respond with donations? Reach out to people and get a shit load of people to give a small donation- like we would do with Sanders.
    Thoughts?
    Thanks man...

    edit: just read this http://bigstory.ap.org/article/6f997f97c5f140a29f385ea05f1b642c/wikileaks-assanges-internet-link-severed-state-actor

    Post edited by Boxes&Books on
  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    tonifig8 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Julian Assange's internet link has been intentionally severed by a state party. We have activated the appropriate contingency plans.

    pre-commitment 1: John Kerry 4bb96075acadc3d80b5ac872874c3037a386f4f595fe99e687439aabd0219809

    pre-commitment 2: Ecuador
    eae5c9b064ed649ba468f0800abf8b56ae5cfe355b93b1ce90a1b92a48a9ab72

    pre-commitment 3: UK FCO f33a6de5c627e3270ed3e02f62cd0c857467a780cf6123d2172d80d02a072f74


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_scheme

    JC, does this mean they shut the site down, because it's not down. I saw the message on Twitter, I read the Wikipedia link. Could you elaborate just a little on this. What does John K. , Ecuador, UK FCo have to do with it?
    I say we respond with donations? Reach out to people and get a shit load of people to give a small donation- like we would do with Sanders.
    Thoughts?
    Thanks man...

    edit: just read this http://bigstory.ap.org/article/6f997f97c5f140a29f385ea05f1b642c/wikileaks-assanges-internet-link-severed-state-actor

    There were "rumors" that those triggered tweets were released because Assange was killed, but WikiLeaks posted that he was alive and well....needless to say this is interesting
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    pjalive21 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Julian Assange's internet link has been intentionally severed by a state party. We have activated the appropriate contingency plans.

    pre-commitment 1: John Kerry 4bb96075acadc3d80b5ac872874c3037a386f4f595fe99e687439aabd0219809

    pre-commitment 2: Ecuador
    eae5c9b064ed649ba468f0800abf8b56ae5cfe355b93b1ce90a1b92a48a9ab72

    pre-commitment 3: UK FCO f33a6de5c627e3270ed3e02f62cd0c857467a780cf6123d2172d80d02a072f74


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_scheme

    JC, does this mean they shut the site down, because it's not down. I saw the message on Twitter, I read the Wikipedia link. Could you elaborate just a little on this. What does John K. , Ecuador, UK FCo have to do with it?
    I say we respond with donations? Reach out to people and get a shit load of people to give a small donation- like we would do with Sanders.
    Thoughts?
    Thanks man...

    edit: just read this http://bigstory.ap.org/article/6f997f97c5f140a29f385ea05f1b642c/wikileaks-assanges-internet-link-severed-state-actor

    There were "rumors" that those triggered tweets were released because Assange was killed, but WikiLeaks posted that he was alive and well....needless to say this is interesting
    Why do they all of a sudden want to silence him?

    Still with Her!
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,961
    tonifig8 said:

    pjalive21 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Julian Assange's internet link has been intentionally severed by a state party. We have activated the appropriate contingency plans.

    pre-commitment 1: John Kerry 4bb96075acadc3d80b5ac872874c3037a386f4f595fe99e687439aabd0219809

    pre-commitment 2: Ecuador
    eae5c9b064ed649ba468f0800abf8b56ae5cfe355b93b1ce90a1b92a48a9ab72

    pre-commitment 3: UK FCO f33a6de5c627e3270ed3e02f62cd0c857467a780cf6123d2172d80d02a072f74


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_scheme

    JC, does this mean they shut the site down, because it's not down. I saw the message on Twitter, I read the Wikipedia link. Could you elaborate just a little on this. What does John K. , Ecuador, UK FCo have to do with it?
    I say we respond with donations? Reach out to people and get a shit load of people to give a small donation- like we would do with Sanders.
    Thoughts?
    Thanks man...

    edit: just read this http://bigstory.ap.org/article/6f997f97c5f140a29f385ea05f1b642c/wikileaks-assanges-internet-link-severed-state-actor

    There were "rumors" that those triggered tweets were released because Assange was killed, but WikiLeaks posted that he was alive and well....needless to say this is interesting
    Why do they all of a sudden want to silence him?

    Still with Her!
    maybe because he is accused of rape and wanted by the swedish authorities?
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    edited October 2016
    pjhawks said:

    tonifig8 said:

    pjalive21 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Julian Assange's internet link has been intentionally severed by a state party. We have activated the appropriate contingency plans.

    pre-commitment 1: John Kerry 4bb96075acadc3d80b5ac872874c3037a386f4f595fe99e687439aabd0219809

    pre-commitment 2: Ecuador
    eae5c9b064ed649ba468f0800abf8b56ae5cfe355b93b1ce90a1b92a48a9ab72

    pre-commitment 3: UK FCO f33a6de5c627e3270ed3e02f62cd0c857467a780cf6123d2172d80d02a072f74


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_scheme

    JC, does this mean they shut the site down, because it's not down. I saw the message on Twitter, I read the Wikipedia link. Could you elaborate just a little on this. What does John K. , Ecuador, UK FCo have to do with it?
    I say we respond with donations? Reach out to people and get a shit load of people to give a small donation- like we would do with Sanders.
    Thoughts?
    Thanks man...

    edit: just read this http://bigstory.ap.org/article/6f997f97c5f140a29f385ea05f1b642c/wikileaks-assanges-internet-link-severed-state-actor

    There were "rumors" that those triggered tweets were released because Assange was killed, but WikiLeaks posted that he was alive and well....needless to say this is interesting
    Why do they all of a sudden want to silence him?

    Still with Her!
    maybe because he is accused of rape and wanted by the swedish authorities?
    Oh fuck! That's right! Now I get it. This alleged rape happened years ago... And now they are finally acting on it? Shit they must have been really backed up.

    Still with Her!
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    tonifig8 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Julian Assange's internet link has been intentionally severed by a state party. We have activated the appropriate contingency plans.

    pre-commitment 1: John Kerry 4bb96075acadc3d80b5ac872874c3037a386f4f595fe99e687439aabd0219809

    pre-commitment 2: Ecuador
    eae5c9b064ed649ba468f0800abf8b56ae5cfe355b93b1ce90a1b92a48a9ab72

    pre-commitment 3: UK FCO f33a6de5c627e3270ed3e02f62cd0c857467a780cf6123d2172d80d02a072f74


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_scheme

    JC, does this mean they shut the site down, because it's not down. I saw the message on Twitter, I read the Wikipedia link. Could you elaborate just a little on this. What does John K. , Ecuador, UK FCo have to do with it?
    I say we respond with donations? Reach out to people and get a shit load of people to give a small donation- like we would do with Sanders.
    Thoughts?
    Thanks man...

    edit: just read this http://bigstory.ap.org/article/6f997f97c5f140a29f385ea05f1b642c/wikileaks-assanges-internet-link-severed-state-actor

    Someone within the UK cut off internet access to assange, basically pulled the plug on him. There are other ways wikileaks can communicate but not Assange directly without internet.
    About the hash tweet:
    Could be a number of things, if you're not familiar with IT and how Assange set up his contingency plans it's difficult to explain.
    Assange has to code in every 12 or 24 hours in order to not set off a string of contingencies which make public "all he has", those hash tweets verify that the information that was made public was not edited or altered when checked against what was released. I'm not sure why he only tweeted 3 on Kerry Ecuador and UK FCO, unless twitter is withholding the other tweets. Right now the Ecuador embassy will not say a word about the internet to Assange or whether or not Assange is still there or alive.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    tonifig8 said:

    dignin said:

    I appreciate the determination JC has going through all of this, but I have to agree with others, this seems much ado about nothing. Anyone with even a remote understanding of how politics are done can see this is all par for the course.

    Maybe in the coming days there will be something more condemning and of interest. We will see.

    This comment is good for the clintonites, but not the rest of us.
    :dizzy:
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  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    edited October 2016
    JC29856 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Julian Assange's internet link has been intentionally severed by a state party. We have activated the appropriate contingency plans.

    pre-commitment 1: John Kerry 4bb96075acadc3d80b5ac872874c3037a386f4f595fe99e687439aabd0219809

    pre-commitment 2: Ecuador
    eae5c9b064ed649ba468f0800abf8b56ae5cfe355b93b1ce90a1b92a48a9ab72

    pre-commitment 3: UK FCO f33a6de5c627e3270ed3e02f62cd0c857467a780cf6123d2172d80d02a072f74


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_scheme

    JC, does this mean they shut the site down, because it's not down. I saw the message on Twitter, I read the Wikipedia link. Could you elaborate just a little on this. What does John K. , Ecuador, UK FCo have to do with it?
    I say we respond with donations? Reach out to people and get a shit load of people to give a small donation- like we would do with Sanders.
    Thoughts?
    Thanks man...

    edit: just read this http://bigstory.ap.org/article/6f997f97c5f140a29f385ea05f1b642c/wikileaks-assanges-internet-link-severed-state-actor

    Someone within the UK cut off internet access to assange, basically pulled the plug on him. There are other ways wikileaks can communicate but not Assange directly without internet.
    About the hash tweet:
    Could be a number of things, if you're not familiar with IT and how Assange set up his contingency plans it's difficult to explain.
    Assange has to code in every 12 or 24 hours in order to not set off a string of contingencies which make public "all he has", those hash tweets verify that the information that was made public was not edited or altered when checked against what was released. I'm not sure why he only tweeted 3 on Kerry Ecuador and UK FCO, unless twitter is withholding the other tweets. Right now the Ecuador embassy will not say a word about the internet to Assange or whether or not Assange is still there or alive.
    Thanks for the reply. I got a bunch of info on this already. Some crazy shit man. I guess there was a rumor of him also being killed.
    Apparently they want him dead because he has been accused of raping some women in another country. So now they want him dead and are cutting his internet access....

    starting up a donation campaign. Let's respond.
    Post edited by Boxes&Books on
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,469
    tonifig8 said:

    JC29856 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Julian Assange's internet link has been intentionally severed by a state party. We have activated the appropriate contingency plans.

    pre-commitment 1: John Kerry 4bb96075acadc3d80b5ac872874c3037a386f4f595fe99e687439aabd0219809

    pre-commitment 2: Ecuador
    eae5c9b064ed649ba468f0800abf8b56ae5cfe355b93b1ce90a1b92a48a9ab72

    pre-commitment 3: UK FCO f33a6de5c627e3270ed3e02f62cd0c857467a780cf6123d2172d80d02a072f74


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_scheme

    JC, does this mean they shut the site down, because it's not down. I saw the message on Twitter, I read the Wikipedia link. Could you elaborate just a little on this. What does John K. , Ecuador, UK FCo have to do with it?
    I say we respond with donations? Reach out to people and get a shit load of people to give a small donation- like we would do with Sanders.
    Thoughts?
    Thanks man...

    edit: just read this http://bigstory.ap.org/article/6f997f97c5f140a29f385ea05f1b642c/wikileaks-assanges-internet-link-severed-state-actor

    Someone within the UK cut off internet access to assange, basically pulled the plug on him. There are other ways wikileaks can communicate but not Assange directly without internet.
    About the hash tweet:
    Could be a number of things, if you're not familiar with IT and how Assange set up his contingency plans it's difficult to explain.
    Assange has to code in every 12 or 24 hours in order to not set off a string of contingencies which make public "all he has", those hash tweets verify that the information that was made public was not edited or altered when checked against what was released. I'm not sure why he only tweeted 3 on Kerry Ecuador and UK FCO, unless twitter is withholding the other tweets. Right now the Ecuador embassy will not say a word about the internet to Assange or whether or not Assange is still there or alive.
    Thanks for the reply. I got a bunch of info on this already. Some crazy shit man. I guess there was a rumor of him also being killed.
    Apparently they want him dead because he has been accused of rapping some women in another country. So now they want him dead and are cutting his internet access....

    starting up a donation campaign. Let's respond.
    so much for free speech...can't even rap at someone
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  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672

    tonifig8 said:

    JC29856 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Julian Assange's internet link has been intentionally severed by a state party. We have activated the appropriate contingency plans.

    pre-commitment 1: John Kerry 4bb96075acadc3d80b5ac872874c3037a386f4f595fe99e687439aabd0219809

    pre-commitment 2: Ecuador
    eae5c9b064ed649ba468f0800abf8b56ae5cfe355b93b1ce90a1b92a48a9ab72

    pre-commitment 3: UK FCO f33a6de5c627e3270ed3e02f62cd0c857467a780cf6123d2172d80d02a072f74


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_scheme

    JC, does this mean they shut the site down, because it's not down. I saw the message on Twitter, I read the Wikipedia link. Could you elaborate just a little on this. What does John K. , Ecuador, UK FCo have to do with it?
    I say we respond with donations? Reach out to people and get a shit load of people to give a small donation- like we would do with Sanders.
    Thoughts?
    Thanks man...

    edit: just read this http://bigstory.ap.org/article/6f997f97c5f140a29f385ea05f1b642c/wikileaks-assanges-internet-link-severed-state-actor

    Someone within the UK cut off internet access to assange, basically pulled the plug on him. There are other ways wikileaks can communicate but not Assange directly without internet.
    About the hash tweet:
    Could be a number of things, if you're not familiar with IT and how Assange set up his contingency plans it's difficult to explain.
    Assange has to code in every 12 or 24 hours in order to not set off a string of contingencies which make public "all he has", those hash tweets verify that the information that was made public was not edited or altered when checked against what was released. I'm not sure why he only tweeted 3 on Kerry Ecuador and UK FCO, unless twitter is withholding the other tweets. Right now the Ecuador embassy will not say a word about the internet to Assange or whether or not Assange is still there or alive.
    Thanks for the reply. I got a bunch of info on this already. Some crazy shit man. I guess there was a rumor of him also being killed.
    Apparently they want him dead because he has been accused of rapping some women in another country. So now they want him dead and are cutting his internet access....

    starting up a donation campaign. Let's respond.
    so much for free speech...can't even rap at someone
    oh man that's a good one. Here let me correct myself.
    Way to protect the queen. You're doing an awesome job, germ
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    Expand the surveillance state
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    JC, do you have the leak that talks about the mole inside Sanders campaign? I believe she was in contact with the Clinton people throughout the primaries. Any info on this? I think her name is Sarah
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Assange has vowed not to be taken, he may have committed suicide when it was obvious "they" were coming for him. The dead man switch will allegedly unleash the trove of information including videos staring Hilliary and her campaign staff, Hilliary's deleted emails that purportedly implicate the highest level and on down and the plots to extradite and or kill Assange. The files are tagged INACTITP which is a acronym for its not a conspiracy theory if theres proof.
    If true Im not sure why the US would allow someone the time and resources to carry this out.
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672

    State Department's Kennedy pressured FBI to unclassify Clinton emails: FBI documents

    Undersecretary of State Patrick Kennedy pressured the FBI to unclassify certain emails from Hillary Clinton's private server that were previously deemed classified, according to FBI documents released Monday that cited redacted sources.
    In the documents, an unnamed person interviewed by the FBI said Kennedy contacted the FBI to ask for the change in classification in "exchange for a 'quid pro quo.'"
    Whether or not Clinton sent classified emails from her private server that could have jeopardized national security has become a key issue ahead of the U.S. presidential election on Nov. 8, when Clinton will face Republican nominee Donald Trump.
    (Reporting by Julia Edwards, Editing by Franklin Paul)
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,469
    JC29856 said:

    Assange has vowed not to be taken, he may have committed suicide when it was obvious "they" were coming for him. The dead man switch will allegedly unleash the trove of information including videos staring Hilliary and her campaign staff, Hilliary's deleted emails that purportedly implicate the highest level and on down and the plots to extradite and or kill Assange. The files are tagged INACTITP which is a acronym for its not a conspiracy theory if theres proof.
    If true Im not sure why the US would allow someone the time and resources to carry this out.

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760
    edited October 2016
    tonifig8 said:

    dignin said:

    tonifig8 said:

    dignin said:

    I appreciate the determination JC has going through all of this, but I have to agree with others, this seems much ado about nothing. Anyone with even a remote understanding of how politics are done can see this is all par for the course.

    Maybe in the coming days there will be something more condemning and of interest. We will see.

    This comment is good for the clintonites, but not the rest of us.
    Hey, a guy has to make a living. You know, since I'm on the Clinton campaign payroll.

    I would like to add that she has been fundraising and polling so well these days, I've gotten a raise! Hope all the rest of you got your raise as well!
    What does you working for Clinton have anything to do with my comment? Clintonites are fearless and devoted sheep that will surrender for their queen. Not employes, well I guess employes are sort of the same, except they get paid.

    She's spent well over 8 million and counting on social media- who knows who her staff is. I just recognize the clintonites.
    I'm not a Clintonite, but still agree that the emails so far are much ado about nothing, as digin so aptly put it. I don't see why anti-Clintonites would be any more interested in the emails so far. Again as digin said, we're all on tenterhooks waiting for something interesting to come out... but so far, these emails seem more like spam in this thread, and not information that is worth page after page of posts for everyone to filter through. Just a link to all of the emails would be sufficient, no? So that we can all just go and see for ourselves? (no, I'm not telling you what to do - just offering my viewpoint).
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,469
    PJ_Soul said:

    tonifig8 said:

    dignin said:

    tonifig8 said:

    dignin said:

    I appreciate the determination JC has going through all of this, but I have to agree with others, this seems much ado about nothing. Anyone with even a remote understanding of how politics are done can see this is all par for the course.

    Maybe in the coming days there will be something more condemning and of interest. We will see.

    This comment is good for the clintonites, but not the rest of us.
    Hey, a guy has to make a living. You know, since I'm on the Clinton campaign payroll.

    I would like to add that she has been fundraising and polling so well these days, I've gotten a raise! Hope all the rest of you got your raise as well!
    What does you working for Clinton have anything to do with my comment? Clintonites are fearless and devoted sheep that will surrender for their queen. Not employes, well I guess employes are sort of the same, except they get paid.

    She's spent well over 8 million and counting on social media- who knows who her staff is. I just recognize the clintonites.
    I'm not a Clintonite, but still agree that the emails so far as much ado about nothing, as digin so aptly put it. I don't see why anti-Clintonites would be any more interested in the emails so far. Again as digin said, we're all on tenterhooks waiting for something interesting to come out... but so far, these emails seem more like spam in this thread, and not information that is worth page after page of posts for everyone to filter through. Just a link to all of the emails would be sufficient, no? So that we can all just go and see for ourselves? (no, I'm not telling you what to do - just offering my viewpoint).
    Exactly....or just wait for a legitimate news organization to report on something interesting
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760
    edited October 2016
    pjalive21 said:
    Both articles say that she DIDN'T know about the foreign donors, and I don't see anything that makes those working for her dirty, as far as this particular topic goes.... It seems that it was all on the up and up. There must be some explanation as to why you posted two articles with a comment that literally contradicts what the articles say. What am I missing here?
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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