THE DEBATES 2016

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,657
    Jason P said:

    Apparently the clown was right about having a defective mic. This will only add fire to the paranoia.

    theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/trump-was-apparently-right-about-the-debate-microphone/502484/

    We've already covered this. ;)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    PJ_Soul said:

    Jason P said:

    Apparently the clown was right about having a defective mic. This will only add fire to the paranoia.

    theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/trump-was-apparently-right-about-the-debate-microphone/502484/

    We've already covered this. ;)
    My computer must have found a tear in the space time continuum!
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,657
    edited September 2016
    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Jason P said:

    Apparently the clown was right about having a defective mic. This will only add fire to the paranoia.

    theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/trump-was-apparently-right-about-the-debate-microphone/502484/

    We've already covered this. ;)
    My computer must have found a tear in the space time continuum!
    :lol: Gotta love jokes that allude to Star Trek: TNG. My favorite! :glasses:
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,539
    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Jason P said:

    Apparently the clown was right about having a defective mic. This will only add fire to the paranoia.

    theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/trump-was-apparently-right-about-the-debate-microphone/502484/

    We've already covered this. ;)
    My computer must have found a tear in the space time continuum!
    Trumps's ten year old is messing with the cyber.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:

    I dont make very much at all. I dont think people should be making $15 an hour to START. Maybe there shoukd be minimum increases based on length of employment, etc, but $15 for an entry level job is too much. Or maybe base the starting wage on local economics, as pj soul eluded to.

    Even for those with college degrees? $15/ hour would be less than $32k/ year.
    Pay them $200/hr.
    Why not 0.25$

    Libertarian wages for everyone!
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    If they could get people to work for it I'm good with it.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:

    If they could get people to work for it I'm good with it.

    :dizzy:

    You wouldn't be when your options were 25 cents an hour or no job.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    In a free society who are you to tell me what I should make or earn? You don't own me. I own me.

    Your entire argument in raising a min wage reeks of desperation and zero understanding of economics. Why do you think the government wants it raised? Do you seriously believe that it is so people can have more money?
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Please take the time to watch the whole video....you might be glad you did.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZYjgicQOJU

    Godfather.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:

    In a free society who are you to tell me what I should make or earn? You don't own me. I own me.

    Your entire argument in raising a min wage reeks of desperation and zero understanding of economics. Why do you think the government wants it raised? Do you seriously believe that it is so people can have more money?

    A free society lol. That's rich. You don't advocate a free society, you advocate a slave society. You advocate a utopia where capital holds more power than government and they magically hold back on using that power to subjugate labor out of the good of their hearts.
    Zero understanding of economics lol
    That's even richer! Your system failed. Miserably. As bad as communism, if not worse.

    Why does the government want minimum wage raised? Well, only half the government does, and maybe, just maybe, it's because that is the will of the electorate??? Shocking thought, that politicians want to be re-elected. Nahhh, it must be a conspiracy to keep black people in the ghetto, yeah, that makes more sense.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Alec Baldwin nails Donald Trump’s debate performance in SNL cold open

    http://www.vox.com/2016/10/2/13135700/snl-trump-clinton-baldwin
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Go take an economic class.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:

    Go take an economic class.

    Learn how to defend your position.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    Go take an economic class.

    Learn how to defend your position.
    I have.

    Stop being a statist, it's unbecoming.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited October 2016
    unsung said:

    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    Go take an economic class.

    Learn how to defend your position.
    I have.

    Stop being a statist, it's unbecoming.
    That's a joke right? You haven't made even a cursory defense.
    You act like it's all so simple that everyone who doesn't get it is a fool, and yet you can't answer the simplest questions.
    You say "muh roads" but you can't explain the rebuttal.
    You say "societes can't exist without government?" sarcastically but, you can't name one that has.

    You don't have rebuttal for anything, you have only catchphrases.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    It's not really worth my time discussing anything with you because no matter what I can't convince a bootlicker not to like the taste of leather.

    The mere idea that people can't run their own lives without a ruling class to tell them what to do is ludicrous and despite my attempts to illustrate such you prefer to come back with stupid replies like "move to Somalia".

    In other words you bore me.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:

    It's not really worth my time discussing anything with you because no matter what I can't convince a bootlicker not to like the taste of leather.

    The mere idea that people can't run their own lives without a ruling class to tell them what to do is ludicrous and despite my attempts to illustrate such you prefer to come back with stupid replies like "move to Somalia".

    In other words you bore me.

    That's some serious arrogance from someone who can't answer simple questions.
    That's a typical libertarian response, in my experience.
    Maybe someday a libertarian will deign to come down from their lofty domain and prove that they can answer simple questions with tangible answers grounded in reality, but until then, I will have to assume none are capable of doing so.

    Calling me a bootlicker is a bit offensive isn't it?
    I'd bet real money that my life is more than twice as self-sufficient asyours, but I suppose it isn't worth the pissing contest.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    It isn't, you'd probably lose that bet.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,539
    unsung said:

    It's not really worth my time discussing anything with you because no matter what I can't convince a bootlicker not to like the taste of leather.

    The mere idea that people can't run their own lives without a ruling class to tell them what to do is ludicrous and despite my attempts to illustrate such you prefer to come back with stupid replies like "move to Somalia".

    In other words you bore me.

    You're trying to deny basic human nature. If left alone with no government, say on Monday it was completely eliminated. After our 4 day Libertarian party, we're all going to start organizing in groups, and people being people, we'll sometimes do things to step on others toes. Naturally we're going to come up with a set of rules and a way to enforce these rules. All animals do this. What the rules are and how they are enforced is where the debate needs to happen. You go so far out there that you're trying to say everyone makes there own rules. I'm assuming this a big part of your own identity which is why you hold onto it so strongly.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Where do you guys keep coming up with this Libertarian thing? Because I'm not a Democrat or Republican I'm a Libertarian now? If I were I'd vote for Johnson, but I'm not voting.