pipe bomb explodes at military race in new jersey and now a bomb explodes in nyc

Cliffy6745

unsung said:

Enough to stop the program until it is fixed.

How many have come from refugee programs?

jeffbr

Well, we just learned that DHS granted citizenship to 858 illegals with final deportation orders due to an "information gap", but don't worry about the refugees. They're being vetted by a number of different agencies including... oh, wait, DHS. And I'm sure those agencies all share info efficiently and there won't be any further information gaps.

unsung

Cliffy6745 said:

unsung said:

Enough to stop the program until it is fixed.

How many have come from refugee programs?

Too many.

Quit asking stupid questions as if you know it isn't a problem. How did the Pulse shooter's family get here? Where's his wife at?

unsung

jeffbr said:

Well, we just learned that DHS granted citizenship to 858 illegals with final deportation orders due to an "information gap", but don't worry about the refugees. They're being vetted by a number of different agencies including... oh, wait, DHS. And I'm sure those agencies all share info efficiently and there won't be any further information gaps.

But but but how many did bad things?

Cliffy6745

unsung said:

Cliffy6745 said:

unsung said:

Enough to stop the program until it is fixed.

How many have come from refugee programs?

Too many.

Quit asking stupid questions as if you know it isn't a problem. How did the Pulse shooter's family get here? Where's his wife at?

No, quit making stupid comments as if refugees are the problem in the US. I believe his family immigrated here, not under refugee status, but I could be wrong. I am not aware of a single refugee committing one of these acts.

If you want to talk about general immigration, fine, but refugees have not been the problem and there is a significant difference.

bootlegger10

Go Beavers said:

bootlegger10 said:

Bentleyspop said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

benjs said:

unsung said:

Clinton wants to increase importation of "refugee" muslims by 500%.

These attacks will only be a more common occurance.

Refugees in quotation marks... Do you refute the fact that they are refugees?

many are useless POS...but they have probably been paid for long ago via the Clinton foundation.

Godfather.

calling some refugees......"useless POS"? I am struggling for words right now. This is one of the most offensive things I have ever seen anyone type here. And that says a lot.

There is a lot of fear, hate, and ignorance in the world.

And a surprising amount on here as well.

Namaste'

There sure is. I am not defending the "useless POS" and skittle comments. But, when you refer to "fear", there actually is something to fear here. Look at the terrorists attacks that occurred in Paris, Belgium, Nice, San Bernardino, Orlando, Minnesota, New York, New Jersey, etc....There is a legitimate reason for fear. The question is what the proper response is, but to say that there is nothing to fear is not true. Look at how terrorism has changed the world in the last 15 years. Certainly the West's response plays a role, but it has changed our lives in so many ways. If 100,000 refugees come to the USA there will be a terrorist among them, or one in the next generation. Some think that the collateral damage is fine, and others think that it is treasonous act. There is a middle ground but to say that there is nothing to fear is not true.

He didn't say there isn't anything to fear. You can be afraid if you want, but fear shouldn't drive the response, and that's what you're seeing. Also, the fear is way out of proportion to the actual threat.

So whose decision is it to sacrifice the lives of a nominal amount of USA citizens' lives in order to bring in 100,000 refugees where a couple will probably commit a terrorist attack at some point? I'm not saying we should completely shut the door, but lets be honest about this.

Cliffy6745

NONE OF YOU PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE KILLED BY A TERRORIST!

Go Beavers

bootlegger10 said:

Go Beavers said:

bootlegger10 said:

Bentleyspop said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

benjs said:

unsung said:

Clinton wants to increase importation of "refugee" muslims by 500%.

These attacks will only be a more common occurance.

Refugees in quotation marks... Do you refute the fact that they are refugees?

many are useless POS...but they have probably been paid for long ago via the Clinton foundation.

Godfather.

calling some refugees......"useless POS"? I am struggling for words right now. This is one of the most offensive things I have ever seen anyone type here. And that says a lot.

There is a lot of fear, hate, and ignorance in the world.

And a surprising amount on here as well.

Namaste'

There sure is. I am not defending the "useless POS" and skittle comments. But, when you refer to "fear", there actually is something to fear here. Look at the terrorists attacks that occurred in Paris, Belgium, Nice, San Bernardino, Orlando, Minnesota, New York, New Jersey, etc....There is a legitimate reason for fear. The question is what the proper response is, but to say that there is nothing to fear is not true. Look at how terrorism has changed the world in the last 15 years. Certainly the West's response plays a role, but it has changed our lives in so many ways. If 100,000 refugees come to the USA there will be a terrorist among them, or one in the next generation. Some think that the collateral damage is fine, and others think that it is treasonous act. There is a middle ground but to say that there is nothing to fear is not true.

He didn't say there isn't anything to fear. You can be afraid if you want, but fear shouldn't drive the response, and that's what you're seeing. Also, the fear is way out of proportion to the actual threat.

So whose decision is it to sacrifice the lives of a nominal amount of USA citizens' lives in order to bring in 100,000 refugees where a couple will probably commit a terrorist attack at some point? I'm not saying we should completely shut the door, but lets be honest about this.

First define the problem regarding terrorist refugees. Than improve the vetting if it's a concern. For the American's that are concerned, I suggest having fear in proportion to other risks that kill people, and encourage that something be done about that, as well (I mentioned driving earlier as something far more dangerous and worthy of intervention and concern).

Cliffy6745

bootlegger10 said:

Go Beavers said:

bootlegger10 said:

Bentleyspop said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

benjs said:

unsung said:

Clinton wants to increase importation of "refugee" muslims by 500%.

These attacks will only be a more common occurance.

Refugees in quotation marks... Do you refute the fact that they are refugees?

many are useless POS...but they have probably been paid for long ago via the Clinton foundation.

Godfather.

calling some refugees......"useless POS"? I am struggling for words right now. This is one of the most offensive things I have ever seen anyone type here. And that says a lot.

There is a lot of fear, hate, and ignorance in the world.

And a surprising amount on here as well.

Namaste'

There sure is. I am not defending the "useless POS" and skittle comments. But, when you refer to "fear", there actually is something to fear here. Look at the terrorists attacks that occurred in Paris, Belgium, Nice, San Bernardino, Orlando, Minnesota, New York, New Jersey, etc....There is a legitimate reason for fear. The question is what the proper response is, but to say that there is nothing to fear is not true. Look at how terrorism has changed the world in the last 15 years. Certainly the West's response plays a role, but it has changed our lives in so many ways. If 100,000 refugees come to the USA there will be a terrorist among them, or one in the next generation. Some think that the collateral damage is fine, and others think that it is treasonous act. There is a middle ground but to say that there is nothing to fear is not true.

He didn't say there isn't anything to fear. You can be afraid if you want, but fear shouldn't drive the response, and that's what you're seeing. Also, the fear is way out of proportion to the actual threat.

So whose decision is it to sacrifice the lives of a nominal amount of USA citizens' lives in order to bring in 100,000 refugees where a couple will probably commit a terrorist attack at some point? I'm not saying we should completely shut the door, but lets be honest about this.

Let's be honest about it. How many refugees in the US have committed a terrorist act? Refugees, not immigrants...

lukin2006

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

I don't think GF was calling all refugees 'useless POS'.

I believe he was calling the evil ones among them 'useless POS'.

Agreed ... no need to read into GF comments too much, I agree the radical Muslims coming here with bad intentions are evil pos.

lukin2006

Cliffy6745 said:

NONE OF YOU PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE KILLED BY A TERRORIST!

Thank you for the guarantee, I'm sure some here will sleep better at night with that guarantee...

Who on here feels threatened by terrorist?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Cliffy6745 said:

NONE OF YOU PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE KILLED BY A TERRORIST!

Oh. Okay. Pshew!

No need for any concern whatsoever.

Godfather.

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

I don't think GF was calling all refugees 'useless POS'.

I believe he was calling the evil ones among them 'useless POS'.

that's correct.

Godfather.

Cliffy6745

There is a list of about 345893485039458039453489703845348 other things that should be more concerning to your every day life than terrorism....

Godfather.

Degeneratefk said:

unsung said:

Clinton wants to increase importation of "refugee" muslims by 500%.

These attacks will only be a more common occurance.

How many of these attacks that have occurred in the US have been done by "foreign" muslims?

or born of foreign muslims and raised as muslims ?
this problem won't fix itself.

Godfather.

Go Beavers

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Cliffy6745 said:

NONE OF YOU PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE KILLED BY A TERRORIST!

Oh. Okay. Pshew!

No need for any concern whatsoever.

Your concern should be relative to the risk.

Cliffy6745

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Cliffy6745 said:

NONE OF YOU PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE KILLED BY A TERRORIST!

Oh. Okay. Pshew!

No need for any concern whatsoever.

Your concern should be relative to the risk.

Yes

Go Beavers

Godfather. said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

I don't think GF was calling all refugees 'useless POS'.

I believe he was calling the evil ones among them 'useless POS'.

that's correct.

Godfather.

So to clarify, you meant "most" of the evil ones are pos's, and some of the evil ones are not?

unsung

Cliffy6745 said:

There is a list of about 345893485039458039453489703845348 other things that should be more concerning to your every day life than terrorism....

And that's government alone...

unsung

Cliffy6745 said:

NONE OF YOU PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE KILLED BY A TERRORIST!

Except the Americans that have, or do we not count them?