Something about teacher's pay...

PJ_Soul

Bentleyspop said:

mcgruff10 said:

Oh and my bad, I am $63.5 this year and my wife is at $69. What I said was next years salaries. 

There are a lot of people in this country, and a few on here, who believe that you and your wife are overpaid and underworked.

Which shows their ignorance.

PJ_Soul

pjhawks said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

pjhawks said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

How much does a teacher make per month in the US on average - a teacher for 16-19 year olds. What we call the gymnasium, and I guess you call college?

I am on step 14 in my district (teaching 17 years overall but they didn't take any of my years) and make just under $70,000. My wife in on step 15 (19 years overall and same thing) and makes $73k.  It depends on the district and state.    After 21 years I'll "top" out making around $102k.  We both teach 8th grade across the hall from each other lol.  

$70k and $73k for 9 months of work - that's pretty good if you ask me.

Did you care to answer Scruffy's questions regarding your profession and salary?

Del, I don't think he's gonna answer.

I figured. Took a cheap shot and ran.

jeezus how is saying $70k for 9 months of work a cheap shot? 

and no i won't mention my salary or profession.  let's just say it's less than $70k for 9 months.  $70k for 9 months equates to $93k for 12 months.  i don't make nearly that much.  and i'm good with that.

Then I have to assume you don't deserve that much. Teachers, however, do.

pjhawks

PJ_Soul said:

Bentleyspop said:

mcgruff10 said:

Oh and my bad, I am $63.5 this year and my wife is at $69. What I said was next years salaries. 

There are a lot of people in this country, and a few on here, who believe that you and your wife are overpaid and underworked.

Which shows their ignorance.

i don't think anyone in this thread said they were overpaid and underworked. pointing out school schedules is just pointing out facts. not an indictment.

PJ_Soul

pjhawks said:

PJ_Soul said:

Bentleyspop said:

mcgruff10 said:

Oh and my bad, I am $63.5 this year and my wife is at $69. What I said was next years salaries. 

There are a lot of people in this country, and a few on here, who believe that you and your wife are overpaid and underworked.

Which shows their ignorance.

i don't think anyone in this thread said they were overpaid and underworked. pointing out school schedules is just pointing out facts. not an indictment.

I don't think we think that just because people posted a school schedule.

mace1229

I think the school schedule is irrelevant. I know many have already said they work tons and don’t know anyone who only works 8 hours. But there are plenty of jobs that do, a whole lot actually. With plenty of sick and vacation time. And many that pay overtime for every minute beyond 8 hours. When you factor in holidays too, a teacher working 9 hours a day (which most work at least that) is not far from someone working year round with sick and vacation time and holidays off. 

mace1229

Unfortunately this is the reality for probably 1/3 of the states. There are states where you can make close to 6 figures before you retire, and others where you can have 15 years in and only make 50k, and pay $1,000/month for benefits on top of that.

RW81233

this is america

Bentleyspop

Everyone knows that not only asre teachers under worked and overpaid that they are also tools for government brainwashing of American children.

brianlux

Bentleyspop said:

Everyone knows that not only asre teachers under worked and overpaid that they are also tools for government brainwashing of American children.

Many are but most don't know it.  Plus, it's very hard to work outside the system, within the system (id you know what I mean).

PJ_Soul

brianlux said:

Bentleyspop said:

Everyone knows that not only asre teachers under worked and overpaid that they are also tools for government brainwashing of American children.

Many are but most don't know it.  Plus, it's very hard to work outside the system, within the system (id you know what I mean).

What are we talking about here? The biases and falsehoods, or at least very incomplete truths, taught in social studies/history classes to make the USA look like the hero of the world? Or something else?

pjhawks

so a lot of teachers off today.  5 weeks or so after their 2 week time off at the holidays.  and don't forget spring break is right around the corner. but but their schedule doesn't matter

mickeyrat

pjhawks said:

so a lot of teachers off today.  5 weeks or so after their 2 week time off at the holidays.  and don't forget spring break is right around the corner. but but their schedule doesn't matter

its not like they set it now do they?

Spiritual_Chaos

In Sweden teachers work 45 hours weeks instead of 40 hours weeks to make up for the time lost on the longer summer break. They also do work during shorter breaks. There are things to do for a teacher even if the students are having a break...

mcgruff10

pjhawks said:

so a lot of teachers off today.  5 weeks or so after their 2 week time off at the holidays.  and don't forget spring break is right around the corner. but but their schedule doesn't matter

I just planned for tomorrow and graded 78 essays.  Did I earn my paid day off master?

cincybearcat

mcgruff10 said:

pjhawks said:

so a lot of teachers off today.  5 weeks or so after their 2 week time off at the holidays.  and don't forget spring break is right around the corner. but but their schedule doesn't matter

I just planned for tomorrow and graded 78 essays.  Did I earn my paid day off master?

I’m continually amazed at how teachers argue about time off. You do realize that lots of people work at home in the evenings and weekends as well? And spend time traveling for work on weekend and evenings?

I think teacher should focus more on the value of their work, and the really crappy part about being underfunded and having to buy supplies themselves. 

mcgruff10

cincybearcat said:

mcgruff10 said:

pjhawks said:

so a lot of teachers off today.  5 weeks or so after their 2 week time off at the holidays.  and don't forget spring break is right around the corner. but but their schedule doesn't matter

I just planned for tomorrow and graded 78 essays.  Did I earn my paid day off master?

I’m continually amazed at how teachers argue about time off. You do realize that lots of people work at home in the evenings and weekends as well? And spend time traveling for work on weekend and evenings?

I think teacher should focus more on the value of their work, and the really crappy part about being underfunded and having to buy supplies themselves. 

No shit but I don't give a flying fuck or constantly bring up that non teachers have days off.  Who freaking cares?  Everyone deserves time off from work.  Pjhawks seems like an angry tax payer who wants teachers to have no days off and take a cut in their pay because he/she pays too much in taxes.  So yeah sometimes I defend my paid days off when you get stupid comments like that.

mickeyrat

cincybearcat said:

mcgruff10 said:

pjhawks said:

so a lot of teachers off today.  5 weeks or so after their 2 week time off at the holidays.  and don't forget spring break is right around the corner. but but their schedule doesn't matter

I just planned for tomorrow and graded 78 essays.  Did I earn my paid day off master?

I’m continually amazed at how teachers argue about time off. You do realize that lots of people work at home in the evenings and weekends as well? And spend time traveling for work on weekend and evenings?

I think teacher should focus more on the value of their work, and the really crappy part about being underfunded and having to buy supplies themselves. 

they are only arguing that in response to folks throwing student vacation schedules in their face.

Spiritual_Chaos

mcgruff10 said:

 Everyone deserves time off from work. 

Oh... they do, do they

pjhawks

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

mcgruff10 said:

pjhawks said:

so a lot of teachers off today.  5 weeks or so after their 2 week time off at the holidays.  and don't forget spring break is right around the corner. but but their schedule doesn't matter

I just planned for tomorrow and graded 78 essays.  Did I earn my paid day off master?

I’m continually amazed at how teachers argue about time off. You do realize that lots of people work at home in the evenings and weekends as well? And spend time traveling for work on weekend and evenings?

I think teacher should focus more on the value of their work, and the really crappy part about being underfunded and having to buy supplies themselves. 

No shit but I don't give a flying fuck or constantly bring up that non teachers have days off.  Who freaking cares?  Everyone deserves time off from work.  Pjhawks seems like an angry tax payer who wants teachers to have no days off and take a cut in their pay because he/she pays too much in taxes.  So yeah sometimes I defend my paid days off when you get stupid comments like that.

haha hardly angry.  did i say something that wasn't true about your schedule? Day off today (some teachers not sure if all) , up to two weeks the holidays and a spring break coming up? if you can prove that i'm wrong about that well please do.

and I have no problem paying high taxes for a good public school district. a good public school district makes everything in your town better.

mcgruff10

I think you know the answer to your own question.