Something about teacher's pay...

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  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    ecdanc said:
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    What do you do?
    I work in HSE for manufacturing. Ironically you’d probably like the work I do ;)
    Not as much as I like teachers!
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,567
    edited February 2020
    My job(s) beat all of yours. Because I have taxfunded healthcare. We have paid parental leave. We have paid vacation. People get to eat lunch. Etc.  
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    cincybearcat said:

     But I would say that your statement assumes that work is not actually enjoyable for some people. ;)
    ?
    Some people like working...they enjoy their work. If the only goal is to work as little as possible and go home then less hours are always good. But some people enjoy their work and get fulfillment from it
    8 hours work hours I would guess in the modern world is quite the standard (40h/ week)(?)... having breaks isn't about "not wanting to work".

    And working 9 to 5 without a break, in what way is that working more than 8 to 5 with a lunch break? 
    Ok, I didn’t think I needed to say this. I used “9-5” to describe work...there is very likely hardy anyone that works those hours. It was a specific hour example. 

    How about try 7-5 or 730-630, or sometimes 7-7....
    hippiemom = goodness
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    What do you do?
    I work in HSE for manufacturing. Ironically you’d probably like the work I do ;)
    Not as much as I like teachers!
    Perhaps, I do a lot of training if others though!
    hippiemom = goodness
  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    What do you do?
    I work in HSE for manufacturing. Ironically you’d probably like the work I do ;)
    Not as much as I like teachers!
    Perhaps, I do a lot of training if others though!
    Do you have to deal with their parents?
  • cincybearcat said:

     But I would say that your statement assumes that work is not actually enjoyable for some people. ;)
    ?
    Some people like working...they enjoy their work. If the only goal is to work as little as possible and go home then less hours are always good. But some people enjoy their work and get fulfillment from it
    8 hours work hours I would guess in the modern world is quite the standard (40h/ week)(?)... having breaks isn't about "not wanting to work".

    And working 9 to 5 without a break, in what way is that working more than 8 to 5 with a lunch break? 
    Ok, I didn’t think I needed to say this. I used “9-5” to describe work...there is very likely hardy anyone that works those hours. It was a specific hour example. 

    How about try 7-5 or 730-630, or sometimes 7-7....
    Well, 8-5 is actually a standard (here) for how people work. So how was I to know "9-5" wasn't in the US. Hah.

    And having 40 hour work weeks (with from googling seems to be a standard even in the US) doesn't say you don't love your job. But there is something called work-life-balance, resting up and taking care of other things in life (Children etc).

    I though, work two jobs and more than 40 hours. Because I enjoy it.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    What do you do?
    I work in HSE for manufacturing. Ironically you’d probably like the work I do ;)
    Not as much as I like teachers!
    Perhaps, I do a lot of training if others though!
    Do you have to deal with their parents?
    Hahaha, actually I do sometimes. But not like teachers do. But I didn’t think that was what determines their value in your equation 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    What do you do?
    I work in HSE for manufacturing. Ironically you’d probably like the work I do ;)
    Not as much as I like teachers!
    Perhaps, I do a lot of training if others though!
    Do you have to deal with their parents?
    Hahaha, actually I do sometimes. But not like teachers do. But I didn’t think that was what determines their value in your equation 
    I contain multitudes. 
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,380
    My job(s) beat all of yours. Because I have taxfunded healthcare. We have paid parental leave. We have paid vacation. People get to eat lunch. Etc.  
    That is pretty sweet - good for you.

    Not sure how that makes your job any better than anyone else's?

    I'd bet that many people here also like their jobs.  
    If I make 5x what you do then I can afford vacations and healthcare and whatever else I want.
    Your job still might be way better, you might love it more than anything.

    Only to say that benefits and pay does not make the job better, necessarily.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • My job(s) beat all of yours. Because I have taxfunded healthcare. We have paid parental leave. We have paid vacation. People get to eat lunch. Etc.  
    That is pretty sweet - good for you.

    Not sure how that makes your job any better than anyone else's?

    I'd bet that many people here also like their jobs.  
    If I make 5x what you do then I can afford vacations and healthcare and whatever else I want.
    Your job still might be way better, you might love it more than anything.

    Only to say that benefits and pay does not make the job better, necessarily.
    thats the joke
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,380
    Okey
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    since I answered you Ecdanc, how come you haven’t answered me?
    hippiemom = goodness
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,380
    He said Kansas
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    He said Kansas
    Ah shit I missed it. Thanks!
    hippiemom = goodness
  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    since I answered you Ecdanc, how come you haven’t answered me?
    Exasperating. 
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,614
    edited February 2020
    He said Kansas
    What s the matter with Kansas?  Greatest political book I ever read. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,380
    Carry on my wayward son
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    I was thinking Toto (not the godawful band).  
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    ecdanc said:
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    since I answered you Ecdanc, how come you haven’t answered me?
    Exasperating. 
    So in between your insults of me I missed a post. Sorry. 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    edited February 2020
    ecdanc said:
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    since I answered you Ecdanc, how come you haven’t answered me?
    Exasperating. 
    So in between your insults of me I missed a post. Sorry. 
    You posted an accusatory followup without bothering to go back and look. True to your pattern. 
    Post edited by ecdanc on
  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    since I answered you Ecdanc, how come you haven’t answered me?
    Exasperating. 
    So in between your insults of me I missed a post. Sorry. 
    You posted an accusatory followup without bothering to go back and look. True to your pattern. 
    I posted a question. I also didn’t see you being an asshole to me, missed that post as well. 
    You can click back to previous pages. It’s not hard. 
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    since I answered you Ecdanc, how come you haven’t answered me?
    Exasperating. 
    So in between your insults of me I missed a post. Sorry. 
    You posted an accusatory followup without bothering to go back and look. True to your pattern. 
    I posted a question. I also didn’t see you being an asshole to me, missed that post as well. 
    You can click back to previous pages. It’s not hard. 
    Tough to go through all your stuff. But thanks for the tip. 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,380
    A big percentage of the board is a square off between two people.
    It is so interesting.  (Not really.)
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,614
    edited February 2020
    A big percentage of the board is a square off between two people.
    It is so interesting.  (Not really.)
    The ignore feature is wonderful.  I really appreciate and learn from people who have opposite viewpoints from me but some people are just not worth responding to. 
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10 said:
    A big percentage of the board is a square off between two people.
    It is so interesting.  (Not really.)
    The ignore feature is wonderful.  I really appreciate and learn from people who have opposite viewpoints from me but some people are just not worth responding to. 
    Maybe you find it scary, when some people show that you are not in Kansas anymore?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    since I answered you Ecdanc, how come you haven’t answered me?
    Exasperating. 
    So in between your insults of me I missed a post. Sorry. 
    You posted an accusatory followup without bothering to go back and look. True to your pattern. 
    I posted a question. I also didn’t see you being an asshole to me, missed that post as well. 
    why even bother with this guy, cincy? you know it's going to be nothing but "higher education" bullshit and "scholarly" insults, right? just ignore and move on. 
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    mcgruff10 said:
    A big percentage of the board is a square off between two people.
    It is so interesting.  (Not really.)
    The ignore feature is wonderful.  I really appreciate and learn from people who have opposite viewpoints from me but some people are just not worth responding to. 
    Maybe you find it scary, when some people show that you are not in Kansas anymore?
    no, some people just feel the need to go on the internet and show everyone how inadequate they feel. 
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    So we took this long to figure out what we already knew? You’re a communist. Cool. What a waste of time.

    (where do you live/teach anyhow? No need to be specific...US? What state?)
    since I answered you Ecdanc, how come you haven’t answered me?
    Exasperating. 
    So in between your insults of me I missed a post. Sorry. 
    You posted an accusatory followup without bothering to go back and look. True to your pattern. 
    I posted a question. I also didn’t see you being an asshole to me, missed that post as well. 
    why even bother with this guy, cincy? you know it's going to be nothing but "higher education" bullshit and "scholarly" insults, right? just ignore and move on. 
    Yup.  Done. you are right and I went too long.
    hippiemom = goodness
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