More Sad News From Orlando......

Merkin Baller

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

yeah, a sign just reading "no swimming" isn't exactly very detailed. you wouldn't assume alligators would be that close to a disney resort without some kind of warning. a 2 year old ankle deep isn't very far in. I wouldn't be so quick to judge the parents on this one. what a fucking nightmare.

As erroneous as it was... I don't feel this is on the same level as the mom who let her child slip from sight at the zoo.

Honestly, in that situation I blame the zoo. Yes, the mother let the kid out of her sight, but that stuff can happen pretty quickly....... If a 3 year old can quickly and easily wander / fall into a gorilla exhibit, it's not a very secure enclosure. Add in the fact that zoos should expect large groups of kids wandering around, and I think you really have to look at the design of the enclosure as the #1 problem there.

Just my $0.02.

g under p

They've now closed all resort beaches at Disney.....

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/15/us/alligator-attacks-child-disney-florida/index.html?adkey=bn

Peace

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Brutal for the family.

When good times go bad.

Must be surreal.

Gern Blansten

so awful....I can't even imagine

MayDay10

HughFreakingDillon said:

yeah, a sign just reading "no swimming" isn't exactly very detailed. you wouldn't assume alligators would be that close to a disney resort without some kind of warning. a 2 year old ankle deep isn't very far in. I wouldn't be so quick to judge the parents on this one. what a fucking nightmare.

yeah, I agree. Especially with the inviting beach sloping gently into the water.

Jason P

You would imagine that Disney was aware of alligators on it's property. You would think the amount of security at a place like that would prevent it, but it is Florida.

Merkin Baller

Jason P said:

You would imagine that Disney was aware of alligators on it's property. You would think the amount of security at a place like that would prevent it, but it is Florida.

Especially in a society as litigious as ours.

polaris_x

Merkin Baller said:

polaris_x said:

probably should have been "alligators present" sign ...

I assume there's an alligator in almost every standing body of water in Florida (feel free to correct if I'm mistaken). I'm really surprised Disney isn't a little more proactive with signs around their resorts.

Not trying to assign blame here, just surprised based on what I know having traveled there a handful of times.

they are definitely all over the state ... still, it's a resort for tourists ... not all tourists are gonna suspect anything especially from a "no swimming" sign ... which could be up for a multitude of reasons ...

g under p

Sadly the body of the 2 year old boy has been found.....

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/report-gator-dragged-child-into-water-near-disney-/nrgS3/

Peace

Jason P

So they trapped at least 5 gators before finding the boy ... I think that stands to reason Disney should have been aware of the potential danger. I'm surprised their risk management team let this fester.

PJ_Soul

Jason P said:

So they trapped at least 5 gators before finding the boy ... I think that stands to reason Disney should have been aware of the potential danger. I'm surprised their risk management team let this fester.

The didn't just trap them. They killed them (or at least that's what they said on the morning news today... they called it "euthanized"... I guess they don't know the meaning of that word).

g under p

PJ_Soul said:

Jason P said:

So they trapped at least 5 gators before finding the boy ... I think that stands to reason Disney should have been aware of the potential danger. I'm surprised their risk management team let this fester.

The didn't just trap them. They killed them (or at least that's what they said on the morning news today... they called it "euthanized"... I guess they don't know the meaning of that word).

I think they did so to see if they any remains within the gators. This family from Liverpool England came here with the thoughts of a dream vacation however it has now turned into their worst nightmare.

Peace

Bentleyspop

g under p said:

PJ_Soul said:

Jason P said:

So they trapped at least 5 gators before finding the boy ... I think that stands to reason Disney should have been aware of the potential danger. I'm surprised their risk management team let this fester.

The didn't just trap them. They killed them (or at least that's what they said on the morning news today... they called it "euthanized"... I guess they don't know the meaning of that word).

I think they did so to see if they any remains within the gators. This family from Liverpool England came here with the thoughts of a dream vacation however it has now turned into their worst nightmare.

Peace

Liverpool?
The child and his family are from Elkhorn, Nebraska

g under p

Bentleyspop said:

g under p said:

PJ_Soul said:

Jason P said:

So they trapped at least 5 gators before finding the boy ... I think that stands to reason Disney should have been aware of the potential danger. I'm surprised their risk management team let this fester.

The didn't just trap them. They killed them (or at least that's what they said on the morning news today... they called it "euthanized"... I guess they don't know the meaning of that word).

I think they did so to see if they any remains within the gators. This family from Liverpool England came here with the thoughts of a dream vacation however it has now turned into their worst nightmare.

Peace

Liverpool?
The child and his family are from Elkhorn, Nebraska

Oh, the news here locally said Liverpool England.....my bad.

Peace

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Imagine the outrage they would have faced ridding the areas of encroaching gators prior to anything happening?

what dreams

Warning: there are alligators in the coastal swamps as far north as South Carolina. Be careful out there.

lukin2006

Of course they killed 5 gators or whatever the numbers ... That's what humans do better than all other species on earth. And yes this is a nightmare for that family, of epic proportions obviously. But I've been to Florida I've seen gators on every visit. These parents should have known not to enter a lagoon at dusk in Florida...a tiny Google research would have helped. My parents (the least protective parents of all time) would take our family to north west Ontario camping and we weren't allowed to go the bathroom alone for fear of bears and both parents knew what to do if bears were around. Yes better signage would have helped, a little common sense helps as well.

hedonist

Maybe they hadn't been to Florida, and thought it'd be safe there? At Disney World? Many people wouldn't even realize to search out the potential of alligators prior to going on vacation.

I really can't blame the parents here; should have been better signage and warnings. It's Disney's property - you'd think they'd do their best to protect those on your property (not to mention yourselves, related to common sense, responsibility, plus of course liability).

what dreams

Well, the Nebraska people are probably familiar with college football teams. Umm . . . There's this team called the Florida Gators.

So sad anyway. I can't imagine the horror of seeing your child dragged under by a gator.

lukin2006

so why should 5 gators die because of the lack of judgement by parents? Could they not be tranquillized and relocated far away from people. And yes I agree Disney should have had better signage ... But people who ignored the "do not swim" sign might be the type who don't read signs.