More Sad News From Orlando......

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,320
    Disney has an army of inspectors and lawyers that are out looking for safety issues and covering there asses six ways to Sunday. The "no swimming" signs are there because they rent boats and they don't want to get sued if someone swimming gets hit by one.

    If Disney was aware (and you would think they would have been) that gators were in the man-made pond, they would have had 10 foot fences surrounding it. I imagine that they had a series of measures in place to prevent gators from entering the park and that they failed.
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  • lukin2006
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    So where's the link that claims Disney was allowing people to frolick in lagoons and feed the gators ... Which if anyone was feeding them, then these people are dumb ... You never feed wild animals, ever.
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    someone earlier posted plenty of southeast & southern states that are home to gators. be aware out there, folks. hurricanes can move gators hundreds of miles, even across state lines. what freaks me out about swimming in a lake is the snapping turtle/alligator snapping turtle. i think i'd take my chances w/ a 6 ft gator (or smaller) vs' a alligator snapper. those dudes are massive heavy & brutal with their bite. no thank you very much
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  • FoxyRedLa
    FoxyRedLa Lauren / MI Posts: 4,810
    lukin2006 said:

    So where's the link that claims Disney was allowing people to frolick in lagoons and feed the gators ... Which if anyone was feeding them, then these people are dumb ... You never feed wild animals, ever.

    This. Lmao how close were they standing to these gators to feed them?!??! Wouldn't catch me fartin around with any gators!

    I live in MI. I haven't seen a gator in person and I've been to FL a handful of times. I would be terrified.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    I think this has been posted before but this is about guests feeding the gators on Disney properties....

    http://www.thewrap.com/gator-attack-disney-knew-of-problems-staffer-asked-for-fence-at-lagoon-exclusive/

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  • jeffbr said:

    They had likely heard warnings of alligators; however, let's get serious: this was not a backwoods lake at dusk... this was a Disney resort ultimately built for kids.

    'No swimming' means something completely different to me than 'warning alligators'. The kid wasn't swimming anyways and cooling your feet off in a man made lagoon at a Disney resort underneath a 'no swimming' sign is not a display of idiocy. Cooling your feet off in a man made lagoon at a Disney resort underneath a 'warning alligators' sign might be.

    Disney had a responsibility to its guests to properly alert them to the scope of the alligator potential. They were aware of the problems, but they didn't detail these problems to their guests who had not determined that the wildlife one might experience in a swamp was just as evident at the posh resort where an assumption of safety is assumed. As such, they are negligent. Period.

    I can't believe people are still persistent with blaming the parents... and even the kid. Geezuz, man. Remember, I argued strongly against the mother who lost her child in the gorilla compound (and still feel she is at fault). I'm not always automatically siding with the victims and feel just as strong for personal responsibility as anyone else.

    Great post. It is strange how so many are so quick to condemn the parents and the kid. The situation was tragic and a little empathy and compassion seem more warranted than accusations and victim blaming.

    Disney creates a make-believe place. Disney orchestrates the entire experience. Disney held an outdoor movie event lagoon side at dusk. The kid wasn't swimming. The no swimming signs posted had nothing to do with wildlife dangers - the signs I saw warned of deeper waters and a sharp drop-off. One would reasonably expect that in addition to picking up trash, manicuring their environment, and paying attention to ensuring their guests experience a magical time, that they'd also have a handle on dangers lurking in the waters. It wasn't unreasonable for the parents to take their kid to an outdoor movie that Disney set up. It wasn't unreasonable that they kid would dip a toe in the water - they didn't let him swim. It wasn't unreasonable for the parents to expect that their child would be ok while enjoying a moment on a Disney property while under their supervision.
    Yes, Disney held a movie by the lake. NOBODY ELSE was splashing in the water except this doofus from Nebraska. I wonder why. He just didn't know, apparently no fault of his for not knowing he was the only one near the water for a reason. I mean, again, even if I didn't know about alligators, I might ask, "Why is everyone else honoring the no swimming sign on this beautiful Florida night?" But I know it's shameless to call him and his wife a dumb ass . . .
    never blamed the parents in your post prior to this one. now calling them dumbasses.

    do you share an account with someone by chance? LOL
    do people really still type LOL? i am proud to say this is the first and the last time i have typed, and will ever type that again.... it reminds me of a child who just got a cellular device. almost as annoying as radlibs.

    sorry, back to arguing with people about fucking disneyworld, EH.....

    Do people still not know to capitalize the first word in a sentence or 'I'? Reminds me of when kids are too busy picking their noses instead of paying attention in English classes- almost annoying as Cletuses at the gas station chewing on straw too loudly while pumping gas into their Fargo and spitting on themselves.

    Sorry, back to crushing Disney apologists.
    how could i get this booger if my other hand is using the shift key, eh?
    I'll need to think about that one.
    well, any suggestions? i thought for sure the Radlib Canadian Militia would have an answer. they seem to have the answers to everything else.
    I'm not so sure I fall under the 'Radlib' category. I think if you have ever followed my posting history, I tend to bounce right or left depending on the issue.

    But to your problem... I guess it would depend on the quantity and quality of the nose hairs for direction. For example, is it thick? Is extra prying necessary to extract the booger?
    i can assure you i dont follow your post history. i dont care about you.

    oh, its a thick booger alright...
    I know you're upset and you didn't mean that.
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  • rustneversleeps
    rustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209

    jeffbr said:

    They had likely heard warnings of alligators; however, let's get serious: this was not a backwoods lake at dusk... this was a Disney resort ultimately built for kids.

    'No swimming' means something completely different to me than 'warning alligators'. The kid wasn't swimming anyways and cooling your feet off in a man made lagoon at a Disney resort underneath a 'no swimming' sign is not a display of idiocy. Cooling your feet off in a man made lagoon at a Disney resort underneath a 'warning alligators' sign might be.

    Disney had a responsibility to its guests to properly alert them to the scope of the alligator potential. They were aware of the problems, but they didn't detail these problems to their guests who had not determined that the wildlife one might experience in a swamp was just as evident at the posh resort where an assumption of safety is assumed. As such, they are negligent. Period.

    I can't believe people are still persistent with blaming the parents... and even the kid. Geezuz, man. Remember, I argued strongly against the mother who lost her child in the gorilla compound (and still feel she is at fault). I'm not always automatically siding with the victims and feel just as strong for personal responsibility as anyone else.

    Great post. It is strange how so many are so quick to condemn the parents and the kid. The situation was tragic and a little empathy and compassion seem more warranted than accusations and victim blaming.

    Disney creates a make-believe place. Disney orchestrates the entire experience. Disney held an outdoor movie event lagoon side at dusk. The kid wasn't swimming. The no swimming signs posted had nothing to do with wildlife dangers - the signs I saw warned of deeper waters and a sharp drop-off. One would reasonably expect that in addition to picking up trash, manicuring their environment, and paying attention to ensuring their guests experience a magical time, that they'd also have a handle on dangers lurking in the waters. It wasn't unreasonable for the parents to take their kid to an outdoor movie that Disney set up. It wasn't unreasonable that they kid would dip a toe in the water - they didn't let him swim. It wasn't unreasonable for the parents to expect that their child would be ok while enjoying a moment on a Disney property while under their supervision.
    Yes, Disney held a movie by the lake. NOBODY ELSE was splashing in the water except this doofus from Nebraska. I wonder why. He just didn't know, apparently no fault of his for not knowing he was the only one near the water for a reason. I mean, again, even if I didn't know about alligators, I might ask, "Why is everyone else honoring the no swimming sign on this beautiful Florida night?" But I know it's shameless to call him and his wife a dumb ass . . .
    never blamed the parents in your post prior to this one. now calling them dumbasses.

    do you share an account with someone by chance? LOL
    do people really still type LOL? i am proud to say this is the first and the last time i have typed, and will ever type that again.... it reminds me of a child who just got a cellular device. almost as annoying as radlibs.

    sorry, back to arguing with people about fucking disneyworld, EH.....

    Do people still not know to capitalize the first word in a sentence or 'I'? Reminds me of when kids are too busy picking their noses instead of paying attention in English classes- almost annoying as Cletuses at the gas station chewing on straw too loudly while pumping gas into their Fargo and spitting on themselves.

    Sorry, back to crushing Disney apologists.
    how could i get this booger if my other hand is using the shift key, eh?
    I'll need to think about that one.
    well, any suggestions? i thought for sure the Radlib Canadian Militia would have an answer. they seem to have the answers to everything else.
    I'm not so sure I fall under the 'Radlib' category. I think if you have ever followed my posting history, I tend to bounce right or left depending on the issue.

    But to your problem... I guess it would depend on the quantity and quality of the nose hairs for direction. For example, is it thick? Is extra prying necessary to extract the booger?
    i can assure you i dont follow your post history. i dont care about you.

    oh, its a thick booger alright...
    I know you're upset and you didn't mean that.
    ya, this booger has me all fired up, eh...
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,716
    edited June 2016
    :sick:
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • rustneversleeps
    rustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    PJ_Soul said:

    :sick:

    no edit, eh? (insert the clapping yellow face)
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,716
    edited June 2016

    Did it just because you said that. =)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • rustneversleeps
    rustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    PJ_Soul said:


    Did it just because you said that. =)

    thats more like it.
  • jeffbr said:

    They had likely heard warnings of alligators; however, let's get serious: this was not a backwoods lake at dusk... this was a Disney resort ultimately built for kids.

    'No swimming' means something completely different to me than 'warning alligators'. The kid wasn't swimming anyways and cooling your feet off in a man made lagoon at a Disney resort underneath a 'no swimming' sign is not a display of idiocy. Cooling your feet off in a man made lagoon at a Disney resort underneath a 'warning alligators' sign might be.

    Disney had a responsibility to its guests to properly alert them to the scope of the alligator potential. They were aware of the problems, but they didn't detail these problems to their guests who had not determined that the wildlife one might experience in a swamp was just as evident at the posh resort where an assumption of safety is assumed. As such, they are negligent. Period.

    I can't believe people are still persistent with blaming the parents... and even the kid. Geezuz, man. Remember, I argued strongly against the mother who lost her child in the gorilla compound (and still feel she is at fault). I'm not always automatically siding with the victims and feel just as strong for personal responsibility as anyone else.

    Great post. It is strange how so many are so quick to condemn the parents and the kid. The situation was tragic and a little empathy and compassion seem more warranted than accusations and victim blaming.

    Disney creates a make-believe place. Disney orchestrates the entire experience. Disney held an outdoor movie event lagoon side at dusk. The kid wasn't swimming. The no swimming signs posted had nothing to do with wildlife dangers - the signs I saw warned of deeper waters and a sharp drop-off. One would reasonably expect that in addition to picking up trash, manicuring their environment, and paying attention to ensuring their guests experience a magical time, that they'd also have a handle on dangers lurking in the waters. It wasn't unreasonable for the parents to take their kid to an outdoor movie that Disney set up. It wasn't unreasonable that they kid would dip a toe in the water - they didn't let him swim. It wasn't unreasonable for the parents to expect that their child would be ok while enjoying a moment on a Disney property while under their supervision.
    Yes, Disney held a movie by the lake. NOBODY ELSE was splashing in the water except this doofus from Nebraska. I wonder why. He just didn't know, apparently no fault of his for not knowing he was the only one near the water for a reason. I mean, again, even if I didn't know about alligators, I might ask, "Why is everyone else honoring the no swimming sign on this beautiful Florida night?" But I know it's shameless to call him and his wife a dumb ass . . .
    never blamed the parents in your post prior to this one. now calling them dumbasses.

    do you share an account with someone by chance? LOL
    do people really still type LOL? i am proud to say this is the first and the last time i have typed, and will ever type that again.... it reminds me of a child who just got a cellular device. almost as annoying as radlibs.

    sorry, back to arguing with people about fucking disneyworld, EH.....

    Do people still not know to capitalize the first word in a sentence or 'I'? Reminds me of when kids are too busy picking their noses instead of paying attention in English classes- almost annoying as Cletuses at the gas station chewing on straw too loudly while pumping gas into their Fargo and spitting on themselves.

    Sorry, back to crushing Disney apologists.
    how could i get this booger if my other hand is using the shift key, eh?
    I'll need to think about that one.
    well, any suggestions? i thought for sure the Radlib Canadian Militia would have an answer. they seem to have the answers to everything else.
    I'm not so sure I fall under the 'Radlib' category. I think if you have ever followed my posting history, I tend to bounce right or left depending on the issue.

    But to your problem... I guess it would depend on the quantity and quality of the nose hairs for direction. For example, is it thick? Is extra prying necessary to extract the booger?
    i can assure you i dont follow your post history. i dont care about you.

    oh, its a thick booger alright...
    I know you're upset and you didn't mean that.
    ya, this booger has me all fired up, eh...
    Try this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ_Vn8thIW4
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,716
    Jesus Christ, can we stop with the booger talk? It's making me feel sick.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • This whole thread is just ugh.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,320
    PJ_Soul said:

    Jesus Christ, can we stop with the booger talk? It's making me feel sick.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,716
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    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • rustneversleeps
    rustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    you all have me cracking up here... how 'bout them gators??
  • Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Jesus Christ, can we stop with the booger talk? It's making me feel sick.

    image
    hahahahaha

    That was the best.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    I didn't think anything would top the Ted Kruz elbow to his wife's face.

    I stand corrected.
  • Sea
    Sea Posts: 3,132
    edited June 2016
    This thread is done.

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