Terrorist Shooting In Orlando, FL

mickeyrat

Godfather. said:

his father said "he got angry when he saw two men kissing" islamaphobia ......
also reports of threats on Florida prior to the killing.....time to wake up kiddies.

Godfather.

wake up to what?

Godfather.

mickeyrat said:

Godfather. said:

his father said "he got angry when he saw two men kissing" islamaphobia ......
also reports of threats on Florida prior to the killing.....time to wake up kiddies.

Godfather.

wake up to what?

you have to ask ? islam has waged war against the American people and pretending that only a small part of islam is responsible or radical is a mistake..but you folks believe as you wish and keep blaming these killings on guns and gun laws (bullshit).....only on the train..

Godfather.

Godfather.

The gunman who killed at least 50 people at an Orlando nightclub early Sunday was described by a former colleague as an "unhinged and unstable" person who repeatedly made racist, misogynist and homophobic remarks.

Daniel Gilroy, a former police officer, worked as a security officer with G4S Security at the PGA Village complex in Port St. Lucie. Pulse nightclub shooter Omar Mateen worked the shift right after Gilroy at the complex's south gate.

Gilroy described Mateen as a devout Muslim who brought a prayer mat to work and prayed several times a day.

"There was never a moment where he didn't have anger and rage," Gilroy told "The Kelly File". "And he was always loud and cursing. And anytime a female or a black person came by, he would use horrible words."

On one occasion, Gilroy said, Mateen told him, "I would just like to kill all those [n-words]" after a conversation between Mateen and a black man. "A few times he mentioned homosexuals and Jewish people," Gilroy said, "but we didn't deal with them quite as often, so it was mostly women and blacks, because those were the people in front of us."

Gilroy told Florida Today that he complained to his superiors several times about Mateen, but they refused to take action because, Gilroy claimed, Mateen was Muslim. Gilroy said he quit G4S in 2015 after Mateen began sending him dozens of harassing text and phone messages per day.

"Everything he said was toxic," Gilroy told the paper, "and the company wouldn't do anything. This guy was unhinged and unstable. He talked of killing people."

PGA Village resident Eleanora Dori, however, described Mateen to Florida Today as "very polite" and "always a gentleman."

"You would never ever think that he would have done anything like this," she told the paper. "Scary, scary. Very scary."

In a statement late Sunday, G4S said Mateen had worked for the company since 2007 and had passed a company screening and background check twice, once when he was hired and again in 2013.

"In 2013, we learned that Mateen had been questioned by the FBI but that the inquiries were subsequently closed," the statement read in part. "We were not made aware of any alleged connections between Mateen and terrorist activities, and were unaware of any further FBI investigations."

Meanwhile, it emerged late Sunday that Mateen had sent a Facebook friend request to the owner of another gay club last week, raising the possibility that he may have considered targeting other LGBT nightspots in the area.

Micah Bass, the owner of the M Hotel and the Revere nightclub, told the East Orlando Post that Mateen sent him the friend request late last week.

Bass told The New York Times that he recognized Mateen's picture after he had been identified as the shooter at the Pulse nightclub early Sunday.

"I saw the picture and said ‘That guy tried to friend me," Bass said.

Bass said he deleted Mateen's friend request after noticing that his friends had Arabic writing on their Facebook pages. Bass said that because there are not many Arabic speakers in the gay subculture, he believed the friend request to have been a mistake.

Bass and his business partner had closed Revere Thursday, and planned to only make it available for private events.

"I feel terrible," Bass told the Times. “I’m hoping that my staff didn’t end up at Pulse."

"If we had not closed for restructuring ... We very well could have been the target this weekend," Bass said. He added that he had notified the FBI about Mateen's social media activity and was examining video footage to determine whether the gunman or any possible accomplices visited the club in recent weeks.

Degeneratefk

What don't you understand? If the fucking guy is not able to legally purchase a fucking illegally modified machine gun, he doesn't kill nearly as many people. To say the gun problem in this nation isn't part of this problem is narrow minded and quite ignorant.

rgambs

Godfather. said:

mickeyrat said:

Godfather. said:

his father said "he got angry when he saw two men kissing" islamaphobia ......
also reports of threats on Florida prior to the killing.....time to wake up kiddies.

Godfather.

wake up to what?

you have to ask ? islam has waged war against the American people and pretending that only a small part of islam is responsible or radical is a mistake..but you folks believe as you wish and keep blaming these killings on guns and gun laws (bullshit).....only on the train..

Godfather.

This is about as deep as an episode of Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader

Godfather.

seems I'm surrounded by.....carry on misguided folks ! and have a nice day, that should be easy when your living in a dream world.

Godfather.

mrussel1

Godfather. said:

seems I'm surrounded by.....carry on misguided folks ! and have a nice day, that should be easy when your living in a dream world.

Godfather.

You should be more careful with whom you surround yourself.

g under p

Spiritual_Chaos said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

mcgruff10 said:

hedonist said:

Even with a metal detector, at that point, I'm not sure what good it would have done.

My heart goes out to those people who were fucking ambushed, and those mourning them this morning.

from what I've read an officer engaged him outside the club; the shooter then went into the club.
what the hell kind of device did he have? are there know suicide bombers active in the u.s.?! fuck

Early reports are calling that "device" an assault weapon.

Early reports also list Omar Mir Seddique Mateen as a registered Democrat.

Was it the democrat membership that allowed him to murder 50 plus people?

Assault weapon defenders have blood on their hands again today.

All weapons can technically be described as an assault weapon. It hasn't been reported as of yet what the make and model of the gun was or how it was purchased. Important details to know before we claim who has blood on their hands.

Maybe it was a knife? Maybe he killed 50 plus people with his bare hands? We don't really know yet do we?

Not sure if sarcasm, but Occam's razor.

Godfather. said:

mickeyrat said:

Godfather. said:

his father said "he got angry when he saw two men kissing" islamaphobia ......
also reports of threats on Florida prior to the killing.....time to wake up kiddies.

Godfather.

wake up to what?

you have to ask ? islam has waged war against the American people and pretending that only a small part of islam is responsible or radical is a mistake..but you folks believe as you wish and keep blaming these killings on guns and gun laws (bullshit).....only on the train..

Godfather.

So GF what percentage of Islam do you think is radical and what should be done with that particular group?

Peace

joseph33

Saying that banning all muslims is by no means a solution. But there needs to be a more thorough background check on who is wanting to come here? Would you allow any given person off the street to come and babysit your children? Hell no you wouldn't. And by the way,none of this going on today would have happened if the US government wasn't meddling with affairs in the middle east that was none of thier business to begin with. What were rebels we supported yesterday,are now called ISIS today. Or did you forget already? We created a cancer that as of right now has no cure. All we can really do is accept our trivial differences,and love one another as human beings. Love WILL overcome hate.

mrussel1

joseph33 said:

Saying that banning all muslims is by no means a solution. But there needs to be a more thorough background check on who is wanting to come here? Would you allow any given person off the street to come and babysit your children? Hell no you wouldn't. And by the way,none of this going on today would have happened if the US government wasn't meddling with affairs in the middle east that was none of thier business to begin with. What were rebels we supported yesterday,are now called ISIS today. Or did you forget already? We created a cancer that as of right now has no cure. All we can really do is accept our trivial differences,and love one another as human beings. Love WILL overcome hate.

Agreed. There is nothing wrong with doing more extensive background checks on people that could be considered higher risk. Of course that would not have stopped what happened yesterday. I know there are checks I'm just not sure the extent and whether it varies by risk factor. Anyone know?

Go Beavers

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

He may have acted alone, or he may have been tied to a terrorist group, we don't yet. Why try to force a narrative?

Forcing a narrative? Did you even read any of this from the link above:

"Omar Mateen, whose bloody siege inside a packed Orlando gay nightclub ended when SWAT teams stormed the building and killed him, was a radical Muslim who followed Marcus Dwayne Robertson, a law enforcement source said.

“It is no coincidence that this happened in Orlando,” said a law enforcement source familiar with Robertson’s history of recruiting terrorists and inciting violence. “Mateen was enrolled in [Robertson’s online] Fundamental Islamic Knowledge Seminary.”


Robertson's school may not have been the only source of Mateen's spiritual guidance. The gunman was at the Islamic Center of Fort Pierce with Imam Shafiq Rahman two days before the nightclub attack, according to The Washington Post. That mosque was frequented by American-born suicide bomber Monar abu Salha, who blew himself up in Syria in 2014, and the two knew each other..."

Whether he acted on his own is completely irrelevant to the narrative that already exists!

Did you even read your link that cites unnamed sources? Whether he acted alone or not is completely relevant to the definition of terrorism.

Godfather.

ban all Islamic people from entering the US.

Godfather.

HughFreakingDillon

Godfather. said:

mickeyrat said:

Godfather. said:

his father said "he got angry when he saw two men kissing" islamaphobia ......
also reports of threats on Florida prior to the killing.....time to wake up kiddies.

Godfather.

wake up to what?

you have to ask ? islam has waged war against the American people and pretending that only a small part of islam is responsible or radical is a mistake..but you folks believe as you wish and keep blaming these killings on guns and gun laws (bullshit).....only on the train..

Godfather.

nearly all mass shootings in the US have been perpetuated by white people.

if islam had waged war on america you'd be dead already. we'd all be dead. it's really that simple.

we're all wide awake.

rgambs

This is complicated. It isn't as simple as "ISIS" "turrer" and all that GW style idiocy.

The man was a racist bigot, and there are indications that those beliefs could be more, a factor than his religion and extremism.
He wasn't an America hater, or a hater of Western society. He was a selfie taking, NYPD shirt wearing, social media using, fucked up dude who seemed to be at least as much akin to Dylan Roof as to a jihadist.
Further evidence that easy access to guns which are so capable of wanton destruction is a bad idea in a large society with such fucked up people.

polaris_x

this is the result of indoctrination of ignorant people ... it leads to mass shootings, global warming and discriminatory bathroom laws ...

HughFreakingDillon

check this out, GF: middle eastern people don't even make the cut:

http://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/

g under p

Godfather. said:

ban all Islamic people from entering the US.

Godfather.

Again that particular policy would not have done any good in the the Orlando shooting. However, lets go with what you have stated here.....where does it end as with the pro gun folks there will be a slippery slope. Who's next Hispanics, blacks or Asians that will never be the solution.....simple to say however a difficult policy to implement.

Peace

HughFreakingDillon

Godfather. said:

ban all Islamic people from entering the US.

Godfather.

nein!

chitownp76

I dont see how politicians cannot come together and find a middle ground? I completely understand that law abiding citizens should have the right to own a gun, but why do we allow people on the FBI watch list to obtain guns legally in this county? Question two, why on earth do we allow the average citizen to legally purchase military style assault rifles? I am fully aware that people will always be able to obtain firearms ILLEGALLY and do horrible things with them, but if he did not have an AR-15 im confident in saying that the death toll would not have been as horrible as it was.

Bentleyspop

Godfather. said:

ban all Islamic people from entering the US.

Godfather.

I won't be the first nor the last to tell you and everyone else that says what you posted....

He was an American citizen. Born and raised in America.
Just like you
Just like Dylan Roof
Just like Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold
Just like Christopher Sean Harper-Mercer
Just like Elliott Rodger
Just like Adam Lanza
Just like Aaron Alexis