Terrorist Shooting In Orlando, FL

InHiding80

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
You'll see.
Just wait for it.

I don't even know what you're talking about. Don't know which post was supposed to be offensive (none seemed offensive to me).

Him, a Trump supporter, being against anything "offensive" is rich coming from him. They scream "Why are you libs so PC?" yet cry "Why are you so un PC against me and my support for Trump" believing they can have it both ways. If you dish it out, don't play the victim card when you take it. Anything that is even remotely to the left of Trump offends them.

PJfanwillneverleave1

InHiding80 said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
You'll see.
Just wait for it.

I don't even know what you're talking about. Don't know which post was supposed to be offensive (none seemed offensive to me).

Him, a Trump supporter, being against anything "offensive" is rich coming from him. They scream "Why are you libs so PC?" yet cry "Why are you so un PC against me and my support for Trump" believing they can have it both ways. If you dish it out, don't play the victim card when you take it. Anything that is even remotely to the left of Trump offends them.

IH80 we are of the same mind it's incredible.
I have found my twin in this world.

BS44325

InHiding80 said:

It's pathetic seeing republicans who hate gays just like the Muslims bashing liberals as Muslim lovers after this. What do you bigots care other than scoring political points?

It is this comment that is pathetic and you are off base in referring to people such as myself as bigots. Republicans do not hate gays. That is a caricature that you have created in your mind. There are some, who I happen to disagree with, who would prefer not to be forced to bake a cake out of their own religious beliefs but that is a far cry from hatred. Try to understand the difference between that belief and those of radical Islam. Second, nobody is calling liberals "muslim lovers" either. What is being said is that your progressive need to respect the cultural sensitivities of radical muslims is in direct contradiction to our collective need of protecting the rights of women and the LGBT community. You excuse the beliefs of one community at the expense of the other and in doing so it put us all at greater risk of attack. Smarten up.

BS44325

mrussel1 said:

callen said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

mcgruff10 said:

hedonist said:

Even with a metal detector, at that point, I'm not sure what good it would have done.

My heart goes out to those people who were fucking ambushed, and those mourning them this morning.

from what I've read an officer engaged him outside the club; the shooter then went into the club.
what the hell kind of device did he have? are there know suicide bombers active in the u.s.?! fuck

Early reports are calling that "device" an assault weapon.

Early reports also list Omar Mir Seddique Mateen as a registered Democrat.

Oh boy.

OMFG. All Dems are terrorists? I'm a terrorist? Holy shit.

BS44325 said:

More details on the case...

Info on the killers father:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/12/orlando-shooting-suspects-father-hosted-a-political-tv-show-and-even-tried-to-run-for-the-afghan-presidency/

And this from a co-worker:

http://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/crime/2016/06/12/who-omar-mateen/85791280/

Like previous Islamic attacks this is starting to look like law enforcement failing to connect dots OR connecting them but failing to do anything about it.

A lot of things point to him being homophobic more so than ant-West.

A lot of things point to him being a known radical...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/12/orlando-gunman-tied-to-radical-imam-released-from-prison-last-year-say-law-enforcement-sources.html

mrussel1

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

callen said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

mcgruff10 said:

hedonist said:

Even with a metal detector, at that point, I'm not sure what good it would have done.

My heart goes out to those people who were fucking ambushed, and those mourning them this morning.

from what I've read an officer engaged him outside the club; the shooter then went into the club.
what the hell kind of device did he have? are there know suicide bombers active in the u.s.?! fuck

Early reports are calling that "device" an assault weapon.

Early reports also list Omar Mir Seddique Mateen as a registered Democrat.

Oh boy.

OMFG. All Dems are terrorists? I'm a terrorist? Holy shit.

BS44325 said:

More details on the case...

Info on the killers father:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/12/orlando-shooting-suspects-father-hosted-a-political-tv-show-and-even-tried-to-run-for-the-afghan-presidency/

And this from a co-worker:

http://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/crime/2016/06/12/who-omar-mateen/85791280/

Like previous Islamic attacks this is starting to look like law enforcement failing to connect dots OR connecting them but failing to do anything about it.

A lot of things point to him being homophobic more so than ant-West.

A lot of things point to him being a known radical...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/12/orlando-gunman-tied-to-radical-imam-released-from-prison-last-year-say-law-enforcement-sources.html

That guy just sounds like a common criminal. And the shooter seems deranged, unhinged, confused and aimless. His father appears to be a goof as well, although he claims his son wasn't religious at all, but hated gay people. Unfortunately an assault rifle was available to him.

Go Beavers

One unnamed source may not qualify as "a lot". At this point, people have concluded he's a terrorist, although no one in law enforcement has come out with evidence of a connection (unless I missed those articles) or if he was acting alone.

Go Beavers

BS44325 said:

InHiding80 said:

It's pathetic seeing republicans who hate gays just like the Muslims bashing liberals as Muslim lovers after this. What do you bigots care other than scoring political points?

It is this comment that is pathetic and you are off base in referring to people such as myself as bigots. Republicans do not hate gays. That is a caricature that you have created in your mind. There are some, who I happen to disagree with, who would prefer not to be forced to bake a cake out of their own religious beliefs but that is a far cry from hatred. Try to understand the difference between that belief and those of radical Islam. Second, nobody is calling liberals "muslim lovers" either. What is being said is that your progressive need to respect the cultural sensitivities of radical muslims is in direct contradiction to our collective need of protecting the rights of women and the LGBT community. You excuse the beliefs of one community at the expense of the other and in doing so it put us all at greater risk of attack. Smarten up.

If someone wants to refuse services to someone based on the fact that they're gay, please explain the thinking behind that belief that somehow doesn't fit the definition of hate.

BS44325

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

InHiding80 said:

It's pathetic seeing republicans who hate gays just like the Muslims bashing liberals as Muslim lovers after this. What do you bigots care other than scoring political points?

It is this comment that is pathetic and you are off base in referring to people such as myself as bigots. Republicans do not hate gays. That is a caricature that you have created in your mind. There are some, who I happen to disagree with, who would prefer not to be forced to bake a cake out of their own religious beliefs but that is a far cry from hatred. Try to understand the difference between that belief and those of radical Islam. Second, nobody is calling liberals "muslim lovers" either. What is being said is that your progressive need to respect the cultural sensitivities of radical muslims is in direct contradiction to our collective need of protecting the rights of women and the LGBT community. You excuse the beliefs of one community at the expense of the other and in doing so it put us all at greater risk of attack. Smarten up.

If someone wants to refuse services to someone based on the fact that they're gay, please explain the thinking behind that belief that somehow doesn't fit the definition of hate.

It has been explained on other threads. Again...I don't agree or support the belief but I don't think a religious person who says "if you want to get married fine but please don't make me participate in it" is far different from an Imam who says "all gays must die". I'm sure you can distinguish between the two. You can right? Maybe not. Hard to tell anymore. People have seem to have lost all sense of perspective.

Go Beavers

There's differences and similarities, but you're changing the subject. Peel back the layers of a so called Christian who is anti-gay, and what you get at is fear & ignorance, manifesting as hate. I don't minimize it, like you may be inclined to.

BS44325

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

callen said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

mcgruff10 said:

hedonist said:

Even with a metal detector, at that point, I'm not sure what good it would have done.

My heart goes out to those people who were fucking ambushed, and those mourning them this morning.

from what I've read an officer engaged him outside the club; the shooter then went into the club.
what the hell kind of device did he have? are there know suicide bombers active in the u.s.?! fuck

Early reports are calling that "device" an assault weapon.

Early reports also list Omar Mir Seddique Mateen as a registered Democrat.

Oh boy.

OMFG. All Dems are terrorists? I'm a terrorist? Holy shit.

BS44325 said:

More details on the case...

Info on the killers father:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/12/orlando-shooting-suspects-father-hosted-a-political-tv-show-and-even-tried-to-run-for-the-afghan-presidency/

And this from a co-worker:

http://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/crime/2016/06/12/who-omar-mateen/85791280/

Like previous Islamic attacks this is starting to look like law enforcement failing to connect dots OR connecting them but failing to do anything about it.

A lot of things point to him being homophobic more so than ant-West.

A lot of things point to him being a known radical...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/12/orlando-gunman-tied-to-radical-imam-released-from-prison-last-year-say-law-enforcement-sources.html

That guy just sounds like a common criminal. And the shooter seems deranged, unhinged, confused and aimless. His father appears to be a goof as well, although he claims his son wasn't religious at all, but hated gay people. Unfortunately an assault rifle was available to him.

A common criminal? For real?

Go Beavers

He may have acted alone, or he may have been tied to a terrorist group, we don't yet. Why try to force a narrative?

BS44325

Go Beavers said:

He may have acted alone, or he may have been tied to a terrorist group, we don't yet. Why try to force a narrative?

Forcing a narrative? Did you even read any of this from the link above:

"Omar Mateen, whose bloody siege inside a packed Orlando gay nightclub ended when SWAT teams stormed the building and killed him, was a radical Muslim who followed Marcus Dwayne Robertson, a law enforcement source said.

“It is no coincidence that this happened in Orlando,” said a law enforcement source familiar with Robertson’s history of recruiting terrorists and inciting violence. “Mateen was enrolled in [Robertson’s online] Fundamental Islamic Knowledge Seminary.”


Robertson's school may not have been the only source of Mateen's spiritual guidance. The gunman was at the Islamic Center of Fort Pierce with Imam Shafiq Rahman two days before the nightclub attack, according to The Washington Post. That mosque was frequented by American-born suicide bomber Monar abu Salha, who blew himself up in Syria in 2014, and the two knew each other..."

Whether he acted on his own is completely irrelevant to the narrative that already exists!

mickeyrat

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

mcgruff10 said:

hedonist said:

Even with a metal detector, at that point, I'm not sure what good it would have done.

My heart goes out to those people who were fucking ambushed, and those mourning them this morning.

from what I've read an officer engaged him outside the club; the shooter then went into the club.
what the hell kind of device did he have? are there know suicide bombers active in the u.s.?! fuck

Early reports are calling that "device" an assault weapon.

Early reports also list Omar Mir Seddique Mateen as a registered Democrat.

Source. And follow up.

mrussel1

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

callen said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

mcgruff10 said:

hedonist said:

Even with a metal detector, at that point, I'm not sure what good it would have done.

My heart goes out to those people who were fucking ambushed, and those mourning them this morning.

from what I've read an officer engaged him outside the club; the shooter then went into the club.
what the hell kind of device did he have? are there know suicide bombers active in the u.s.?! fuck

Early reports are calling that "device" an assault weapon.

Early reports also list Omar Mir Seddique Mateen as a registered Democrat.

Oh boy.

OMFG. All Dems are terrorists? I'm a terrorist? Holy shit.

BS44325 said:

More details on the case...

Info on the killers father:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/12/orlando-shooting-suspects-father-hosted-a-political-tv-show-and-even-tried-to-run-for-the-afghan-presidency/

And this from a co-worker:

http://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/crime/2016/06/12/who-omar-mateen/85791280/

Like previous Islamic attacks this is starting to look like law enforcement failing to connect dots OR connecting them but failing to do anything about it.

A lot of things point to him being homophobic more so than ant-West.

A lot of things point to him being a known radical...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/12/orlando-gunman-tied-to-radical-imam-released-from-prison-last-year-say-law-enforcement-sources.html

That guy just sounds like a common criminal. And the shooter seems deranged, unhinged, confused and aimless. His father appears to be a goof as well, although he claims his son wasn't religious at all, but hated gay people. Unfortunately an assault rifle was available to him.

A common criminal? For real?

I'm talking about the guy who was just released from jail. He sounds like a criminal who uses religion to justify his illegal activity. Look at the stuff he has done, it appears to be all related to personal enrichment. I have no idea what's in his heart, but religion just seems like his excuse.

brianlux

Annafalk

My thoughts goes to the victims of this meaningless hate crime.

Degeneratefk

It doesn't really matter if this guy was acting alone, acting on behalf of a group, or connected with a terrorist organization. This guy is a terrorist and this was a terrorist attack. Hate crimes and terrorism go hand in hand.

BS44325

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

mcgruff10 said:

hedonist said:

Even with a metal detector, at that point, I'm not sure what good it would have done.

My heart goes out to those people who were fucking ambushed, and those mourning them this morning.

from what I've read an officer engaged him outside the club; the shooter then went into the club.
what the hell kind of device did he have? are there know suicide bombers active in the u.s.?! fuck

Early reports are calling that "device" an assault weapon.

Early reports also list Omar Mir Seddique Mateen as a registered Democrat.

Source. And follow up.

http://voters.findthedata.com/d/b/Omar-Mateen

No word yet on whether he was for Hillary or for Bernie.

dimitrispearljam

josevolution said:

rgambs said:

The firearms were legally purchased recently

Off course it's really a dog chasing his tail syndrome in this country , what do we do ban all Muslims from entering the country and rounding up the ones that are already here , but still keep the same laws in place where any one even people on watch list can walk into gun shop and purchase any weapon that's there for sale ?? We are fucked !!

what jose said

Godfather.

his father said "he got angry when he saw two men kissing" islamaphobia ......
also reports of threats on Florida prior to the killing.....time to wake up kiddies.

Godfather.