Terrorist Shooting In Orlando, FL

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,525
    Hey as long as you guys are ok with massacres happening every month I say fuck gun laws I want an all out Wild West , you cut me off I'm shooting you , you talk during the movie bam bam your dead Black Friday would be great if everybody had guns no ? !!
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    edited June 2016
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  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    muskydan said:

    Make no mistake about it, what happened in Orlando is what Jihad looks like and will continue to happen.
    However you decide to protect yourself and more importantly your family is completely up to you...One of the many great things about living in a Free Country.

    If any of you plan on going to a Gay pride parade in the coming weeks please pay special attention to your surroundings. I have participated and worked my cities Gay pride parade the past 20 years and the opportunity for a terrorist to cause mass murder of epic proportions is shockingly simple. And those opportunities have nothing to do with those racist, homophobic no good GUNS.

    Why is it easy? Because civilians are able to purchase guns that have the ability to mow people down in seconds.
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  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Asking an honest question here. What is the purpose of owning an assault rifle? Not being sarcastic, just curious.

    Well from my point-of-view...there's no purpose.

    From the point-of-view of a gun-enthusiast...maybe for collecting? Or shooting targets...or something?
    I enter local competitions at my range but that's just me. I know a lot of people shoot hogs with them down south. I'm a collector of guns (big on WW2); pretty much have every u.s. infantry weapon from ww1 to today.

    I'm big on back ground checks but I'm not a fan of any sort of ban. Let's you say you ban the ar-15, where does it stop? I look no further than the state I live in (new jersey).
    It starts with all military grade weapons being banned for civilian use. Period. Stop it where you want.
    Way to find some middle ground. Where the hell do military grade weapons stop? I m thinking everyone of my guns would be banned if you had your way.
    I'm fairly certain that all of your guns weren't designed for warfare only. Which is what most assault rifles were designed for. Common sense goes along way.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,495

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Asking an honest question here. What is the purpose of owning an assault rifle? Not being sarcastic, just curious.

    Well from my point-of-view...there's no purpose.

    From the point-of-view of a gun-enthusiast...maybe for collecting? Or shooting targets...or something?
    I enter local competitions at my range but that's just me. I know a lot of people shoot hogs with them down south. I'm a collector of guns (big on WW2); pretty much have every u.s. infantry weapon from ww1 to today.

    I'm big on back ground checks but I'm not a fan of any sort of ban. Let's you say you ban the ar-15, where does it stop? I look no further than the state I live in (new jersey).
    It starts with all military grade weapons being banned for civilian use. Period. Stop it where you want.
    Way to find some middle ground. Where the hell do military grade weapons stop? I m thinking everyone of my guns would be banned if you had your way.
    I'm fairly certain that all of your guns weren't designed for warfare only. Which is what most assault rifles were designed for. Common sense goes along way.
    Yeah the majority of my guns were military issued in ww2. My 9mm has a 15 round mag which is the caliber the military uses. And my ar 15.....yikes
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Gun laws are not going to stop this sort of shit from happening...your country is a violent country...pretty simple.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    lukin2006 said:

    Gun laws are not going to stop this sort of shit from happening...your country is a violent country...pretty simple.

    Lot easier to buy yourself a gun than it is to build a bomb
  • myoung321 said:

    Just close the damn borders and help our country first. It's nearly impossible to stop the homegrown terrorists at this point without hundreds of thousands of new folks coming in. Outlaw high capacity mags and look at suspects closer, specifically violent ones. Once we have that shit under control open em back up with tighter control.

    Since 9/11 how many Muslims has come through a US border and then carried out a successful attack on American soil??

    1? The wife in San Bernardino

    Don't let the fear and hate cloud your judgement
    Well 1 is too many for me. I don't blame Muslims or any one particular group at all, I just see that we have a violence problem in our country and certainly don't need any outside help. Once we get our shit together so we don't have to worry about getting shot when we go to the movies or out to dance for an evening we can focus on who or how many we start letting in.
    When did an immigrant shoot up a movie theater?
    Never. I was just mentioning a few homegrown acts, one of which happened at the movies in CO.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    edited June 2016
    lukin2006 said:

    Gun laws are not going to stop this sort of shit from happening...your country is a violent country...pretty simple.

    Pretty much. Gun laws don't hurt, but it's this culture of guns and violence and us vs them that is the real problem. Long term solutions are needed. This will take generations to fix.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • lukin2006 said:

    Gun laws are not going to stop this sort of shit from happening...your country is a violent country...pretty simple.

    Yep. Gun laws didn't stop Paris from getting assaulted.
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950

    lukin2006 said:

    Gun laws are not going to stop this sort of shit from happening...your country is a violent country...pretty simple.

    Yep. Gun laws didn't stop Paris from getting assaulted.
    Nope.... but France doesn't have a massive mass shooting problem in general either. There is something "special" happening in the USA. I don't think anyone can deny that.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840

    lukin2006 said:

    Gun laws are not going to stop this sort of shit from happening...your country is a violent country...pretty simple.

    Yep. Gun laws didn't stop Paris from getting assaulted.
    Now compare the number of gun deaths in Paris per capita to them in the US. Will better gun laws prevent all of these things? Of course not. Could they prevent many? Of course
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    PJ_Soul said:

    lukin2006 said:

    Gun laws are not going to stop this sort of shit from happening...your country is a violent country...pretty simple.

    Pretty much. Gun laws don't hurt, but it's this culture of guns and violence and us vs them that is the real problem. Long term solutions are needed. This will take generations to fix.
    Totally agree
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    So the shooter may have been gay...
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,495
    Instead of rushing to ban guns, can we talk about the fact that the father of the shooter was a god damn Taliban supporter?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    mcgruff10 said:

    Instead of rushing to ban guns, can we talk about the fact that the father of the shooter was a god damn Taliban supporter?

    Every single fucking time it has to be something besides the gun. There is a common demoniator in every one of these massacres.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,495

    mcgruff10 said:

    Instead of rushing to ban guns, can we talk about the fact that the father of the shooter was a god damn Taliban supporter?

    Every single fucking time it has to be something besides the gun. There is a common demoniator in every one of these massacres.
    The guy pledged an allegiance to Isis and his dad is a damn Taliban supporter! Are you serious? Both of these groups are actively engaged in a war with the United states.
    Time to go send some additional b 52 s to Isis controlled territory.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Instead of rushing to ban guns, can we talk about the fact that the father of the shooter was a god damn Taliban supporter?

    Every single fucking time it has to be something besides the gun. There is a common demoniator in every one of these massacres.
    The guy pledged an allegiance to Isis and his dad is a damn Taliban supporter! Are you serious? Both of these groups are actively engaged in a war with the United states.
    Time to go send some additional b 52 s to Isis controlled territory.
    So why is the nra so adamant about letting terrorists buy guns?
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,495

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Instead of rushing to ban guns, can we talk about the fact that the father of the shooter was a god damn Taliban supporter?

    Every single fucking time it has to be something besides the gun. There is a common demoniator in every one of these massacres.
    The guy pledged an allegiance to Isis and his dad is a damn Taliban supporter! Are you serious? Both of these groups are actively engaged in a war with the United states.
    Time to go send some additional b 52 s to Isis controlled territory.
    So why is the nra so adamant about letting terrorists buy guns?
    I honestly think it s because of the idea of if you give an inch they take a mile. This nra member fully supports background checks.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • lukin2006 said:

    Gun laws are not going to stop this sort of shit from happening...your country is a violent country...pretty simple.

    Yep. Gun laws didn't stop Paris from getting assaulted.
    Now compare the number of gun deaths in Paris per capita to them in the US. Will better gun laws prevent all of these things? Of course not. Could they prevent many? Of course
    Ok
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  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123

    mcgruff10 said:

    Instead of rushing to ban guns, can we talk about the fact that the father of the shooter was a god damn Taliban supporter?

    Every single fucking time it has to be something besides the gun. There is a common demoniator in every one of these massacres.
    Ding ding ding
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    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,495

    mcgruff10 said:

    Instead of rushing to ban guns, can we talk about the fact that the father of the shooter was a god damn Taliban supporter?

    Every single fucking time it has to be something besides the gun. There is a common demoniator in every one of these massacres.
    Let me preface by saying I voted for Obama twice and am a huge supporter of his, but why have so many of these massacres happened under his presidency?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Instead of rushing to ban guns, can we talk about the fact that the father of the shooter was a god damn Taliban supporter?

    Every single fucking time it has to be something besides the gun. There is a common demoniator in every one of these massacres.
    Let me preface by saying I voted for Obama twice and am a huge supporter of his, but why have so many of these massacres happened under his presidency?
    Good question, I don't know the answer to that either. However, could it be that because he's he first president of color that his presidency has brought forth racial tensions to the surface?

    Peace

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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,495
    g under p said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Instead of rushing to ban guns, can we talk about the fact that the father of the shooter was a god damn Taliban supporter?

    Every single fucking time it has to be something besides the gun. There is a common demoniator in every one of these massacres.
    Let me preface by saying I voted for Obama twice and am a huge supporter of his, but why have so many of these massacres happened under his presidency?
    Good question, I don't know the answer to that either. However, could it be that because he's he first president of color that his presidency has brought forth racial tensions to the surface?

    Peace

    I ve thought that for a long time bud. It s crazy that people are still holding onto ideas pre 13th amendment.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,445

    mcgruff10 said:

    Instead of rushing to ban guns, can we talk about the fact that the father of the shooter was a god damn Taliban supporter?

    Every single fucking time it has to be something besides the gun. There is a common demoniator in every one of these massacres.
    Ding ding ding
    its beyond sick
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Instead of rushing to ban guns, can we talk about the fact that the father of the shooter was a god damn Taliban supporter?

    Every single fucking time it has to be something besides the gun. There is a common demoniator in every one of these massacres.
    Let me preface by saying I voted for Obama twice and am a huge supporter of his, but why have so many of these massacres happened under his presidency?
    ask your speaker of the house.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    i am still beyond pissed about what happened saturday night. probably not a good idea for me to be on here reading about it.

    i just want to say that if nothing is done about our gun laws following this horrific event, nothing is ever going to get done about it. these people will have died for nothing, same as the thousands before them.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited June 2016
    I wonder how many people realize this is the safest time in American history? As a matter of fact it is the safest and most peaceful time in human history

    Post edited by my2hands on
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,495

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Instead of rushing to ban guns, can we talk about the fact that the father of the shooter was a god damn Taliban supporter?

    Every single fucking time it has to be something besides the gun. There is a common demoniator in every one of these massacres.
    Let me preface by saying I voted for Obama twice and am a huge supporter of his, but why have so many of these massacres happened under his presidency?
    ask your speaker of the house.
    i'm not following you.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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