Terrorist Shooting In Orlando, FL

Cliffy6745

Disgrace

Bentleyspop

Here I fixed it for you since you seem to be completely incapable of posting the links to the articles you cut and paste on here.

A story taken from The Histort Channel about a hijacking on June 14, 1985....

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/twa-flight-847-is-hijacked-by-terrorists/print

Godfather. said:

TWA Flight 847 from Athens to Rome is hijacked by Shiite Hezbollah terrorists who immediately demand to know the identity of ”those with Jewish-sounding names.” Two of the Lebanese terrorists, armed with grenades and a 9-mm. pistol, then forced the plane to landin Beirut, Lebanon.

Once on the ground, the hijackers called for passengers with Israeli passports, but there were none. Nor were there any diplomats on board. They then focused their attention on the several U.S. Navy construction divers aboard the plane. Soon after landing, the terrorists killed Navy diver Robert Stethem, and dumped his body on the runway.

TWA employee Uli Derickson was largely successful in protecting the few Jewish passengers aboard by refusing to identify them. Most of the passengers were released in the early hours of what turned out to be a 17-day ordeal, but five men were singled out and separated from the rest of the hostages. Of these five, only Richard Herzberg, an American, was Jewish.

During the next two weeks, Herzberg maintained to his attackers that he was a Lutheran of German and Greek ancestry. Along with the others, he was taken to a roach-infested holding cell somewhere in Beirut, where other Lebanese prisoners were being held. Fortunately, the TWA hostages were treated fairly well.

On June 30, after careful negotiations, the hostages were released unharmed. Since the terrorists were effectively outside the law’s reach in Lebanon, it appeared as though the terrorists would go free from punishment. Yet, Mohammed Ali Hammadi, who was wanted for his role in TWA Flight 847 attack, was arrested nearly two years later at the airport in Frankfurt, Germany, with explosives.

Within days of his arrest, two German citizens were kidnapped while in Lebanon in a successful attempt to discourage Germany from extraditing Hammadi to the United States for prosecution. Germany decided to try Hamadi instead, and he was convicted and sentenced to life in prison, the maximum penalty under German law. He was released on parole in 2005 after serving 19 years. Since then, the United States has unsuccessfully petitioned for his extradition from Lebanon. Despite unconfirmed reports that Hammadi was killed by a CIA drone in Pakistan in June 2010, he remains on the FBI’s Most Wanted Terrorists List along with his surviving accomplices

Ledbetterman10

josevolution said:

Hey that's why he's the GODFATHER it's only his kind that matters to him ga ha ha Ali was not only the greatest boxer he was a giant of a human being more class on his pinky than what the GF has in his whole body ..

You have to start using periods between your sentences, man. Your posts are unreadable.

Ledbetterman10

Degeneratefk said:

Cliffy6745 said:

mcgruff10 said:

Instead of rushing to ban guns, can we talk about the fact that the father of the shooter was a god damn Taliban supporter?

Every single fucking time it has to be something besides the gun. There is a common demoniator in every one of these massacres.

Ding ding ding

Yep. A gun that can fire even just 20 rounds in a minute shouldn't be possessed by civilians. For any reason. If you like target practice or whatever...too bad. A few bad apples have spoiled the bunch.

Ledbetterman10

mcgruff10 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

mcgruff10 said:

Instead of rushing to ban guns, can we talk about the fact that the father of the shooter was a god damn Taliban supporter?

Every single fucking time it has to be something besides the gun. There is a common demoniator in every one of these massacres.

Let me preface by saying I voted for Obama twice and am a huge supporter of his, but why have so many of these massacres happened under his presidency?

Not only that, race-relations seemed to take a step back too. Not to say there hasn't always been police prejudice against blacks. But there seems to have been a lot of incidents of it under Obama.

Ledbetterman10

Godfather. said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

myoung321 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

josevolution said:

Godfather. said:

Degeneratefk said:

pjalive21 said:

im just astounded that when something like this happens we go after guns instead of treating the mentally ill or vetting people more properly, but since guns shoot themselves lets take those away from law abiding citizens. I just cant wrap my head around not making individuals responsible, but instead blaming the machine. We already have gun laws on the book adding more and more to clutter up what is already there makes no damn sense

my thoughts with those in Orlando

An assault weapons ban makes perfect sense. If you dont have an assault rifle, you can not kill large amounts of people in short periods of time. It's so simple, it's stupid.

.........no it's not simple, I enjoy owning a "assault rifle" it's a great tool for home defense and fun to take to a shooting range so who here has the right to take away my rights ? there is no gun problem there is only people problems and if you are worried about mass killings you better outlaw fertilizer or various types of gas as well or we can cut down on mass killings like Boston, NY, CA., etc. we can stop allowing muslim people into our country.

Godfather.

With everyone of these incidents you just keep sounding more & more crazy you make no sense , so now you want all Muslims banned ? Ok how about the ones that are living here deport them ?
So let's see you & Trump want ..
1- deport 11million illegal aliens
2- deport How many Muslims

Tell us how will this get done are you willing to pay more in taxes to offset the cost of such an undertaking what are you willing to give up to see this come true ? ...

it will take a while but it can be done....by the way, all of them.


Godfather.

all of them, or just the brown ones?

So you would have deported Muhammad Ali?

excellent question. assuming this was posed to GF.

I'm not of the opinion that clay was a great fighter or great anything expect for self promotion.
what is your point ?

Godfather.

I think Ali was a total douche. But to say you're "not of the opinion that clay was a great fighter" is first off, such a pretentious way to put it, and secondly, just moronic.

Ledbetterman10

Gern Blansten

So now it turns out the shooter was a homosexual that frequented that bar? Crazy stuff....

Godfather.

Ledbetterman10 said:

Godfather. said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

myoung321 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

josevolution said:

Godfather. said:

Degeneratefk said:

pjalive21 said:

im just astounded that when something like this happens we go after guns instead of treating the mentally ill or vetting people more properly, but since guns shoot themselves lets take those away from law abiding citizens. I just cant wrap my head around not making individuals responsible, but instead blaming the machine. We already have gun laws on the book adding more and more to clutter up what is already there makes no damn sense

my thoughts with those in Orlando

An assault weapons ban makes perfect sense. If you dont have an assault rifle, you can not kill large amounts of people in short periods of time. It's so simple, it's stupid.

.........no it's not simple, I enjoy owning a "assault rifle" it's a great tool for home defense and fun to take to a shooting range so who here has the right to take away my rights ? there is no gun problem there is only people problems and if you are worried about mass killings you better outlaw fertilizer or various types of gas as well or we can cut down on mass killings like Boston, NY, CA., etc. we can stop allowing muslim people into our country.

Godfather.

With everyone of these incidents you just keep sounding more & more crazy you make no sense , so now you want all Muslims banned ? Ok how about the ones that are living here deport them ?
So let's see you & Trump want ..
1- deport 11million illegal aliens
2- deport How many Muslims

Tell us how will this get done are you willing to pay more in taxes to offset the cost of such an undertaking what are you willing to give up to see this come true ? ...

it will take a while but it can be done....by the way, all of them.


Godfather.

all of them, or just the brown ones?

So you would have deported Muhammad Ali?

excellent question. assuming this was posed to GF.

I'm not of the opinion that clay was a great fighter or great anything expect for self promotion.
what is your point ?

Godfather.

I think Ali was a total douche. But to say you're "not of the opinion that clay was a great fighter" is first off, such a pretentious way to put it, and secondly, just moronic.

Ledbetterman10

I love it when little men puff out their chest, reminds me grade school.....

Godfather.

Godfather.

Bentleyspop said:

Here I fixed it for you since you seem to be completely incapable of posting the links to the articles you cut and paste on here.

A story taken from The Histort Channel about a hijacking on June 14, 1985....

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/twa-flight-847-is-hijacked-by-terrorists/print

Godfather. said:

TWA Flight 847 from Athens to Rome is hijacked by Shiite Hezbollah terrorists who immediately demand to know the identity of ”those with Jewish-sounding names.” Two of the Lebanese terrorists, armed with grenades and a 9-mm. pistol, then forced the plane to landin Beirut, Lebanon.

Once on the ground, the hijackers called for passengers with Israeli passports, but there were none. Nor were there any diplomats on board. They then focused their attention on the several U.S. Navy construction divers aboard the plane. Soon after landing, the terrorists killed Navy diver Robert Stethem, and dumped his body on the runway.

TWA employee Uli Derickson was largely successful in protecting the few Jewish passengers aboard by refusing to identify them. Most of the passengers were released in the early hours of what turned out to be a 17-day ordeal, but five men were singled out and separated from the rest of the hostages. Of these five, only Richard Herzberg, an American, was Jewish.

During the next two weeks, Herzberg maintained to his attackers that he was a Lutheran of German and Greek ancestry. Along with the others, he was taken to a roach-infested holding cell somewhere in Beirut, where other Lebanese prisoners were being held. Fortunately, the TWA hostages were treated fairly well.

On June 30, after careful negotiations, the hostages were released unharmed. Since the terrorists were effectively outside the law’s reach in Lebanon, it appeared as though the terrorists would go free from punishment. Yet, Mohammed Ali Hammadi, who was wanted for his role in TWA Flight 847 attack, was arrested nearly two years later at the airport in Frankfurt, Germany, with explosives.

Within days of his arrest, two German citizens were kidnapped while in Lebanon in a successful attempt to discourage Germany from extraditing Hammadi to the United States for prosecution. Germany decided to try Hamadi instead, and he was convicted and sentenced to life in prison, the maximum penalty under German law. He was released on parole in 2005 after serving 19 years. Since then, the United States has unsuccessfully petitioned for his extradition from Lebanon. Despite unconfirmed reports that Hammadi was killed by a CIA drone in Pakistan in June 2010, he remains on the FBI’s Most Wanted Terrorists List along with his surviving accomplices

thanks Bently, yes way back then and nobody even looked twice. the problem is older than we seem to think or even want to know.

Godfather.

Ledbetterman10

Godfather. said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Godfather. said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

myoung321 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

josevolution said:

Godfather. said:

Degeneratefk said:

pjalive21 said:

im just astounded that when something like this happens we go after guns instead of treating the mentally ill or vetting people more properly, but since guns shoot themselves lets take those away from law abiding citizens. I just cant wrap my head around not making individuals responsible, but instead blaming the machine. We already have gun laws on the book adding more and more to clutter up what is already there makes no damn sense

my thoughts with those in Orlando

An assault weapons ban makes perfect sense. If you dont have an assault rifle, you can not kill large amounts of people in short periods of time. It's so simple, it's stupid.

.........no it's not simple, I enjoy owning a "assault rifle" it's a great tool for home defense and fun to take to a shooting range so who here has the right to take away my rights ? there is no gun problem there is only people problems and if you are worried about mass killings you better outlaw fertilizer or various types of gas as well or we can cut down on mass killings like Boston, NY, CA., etc. we can stop allowing muslim people into our country.

Godfather.

With everyone of these incidents you just keep sounding more & more crazy you make no sense , so now you want all Muslims banned ? Ok how about the ones that are living here deport them ?
So let's see you & Trump want ..
1- deport 11million illegal aliens
2- deport How many Muslims

Tell us how will this get done are you willing to pay more in taxes to offset the cost of such an undertaking what are you willing to give up to see this come true ? ...

it will take a while but it can be done....by the way, all of them.


Godfather.

all of them, or just the brown ones?

So you would have deported Muhammad Ali?

excellent question. assuming this was posed to GF.

I'm not of the opinion that clay was a great fighter or great anything expect for self promotion.
what is your point ?

Godfather.

I think Ali was a total douche. But to say you're "not of the opinion that clay was a great fighter" is first off, such a pretentious way to put it, and secondly, just moronic.

Ledbetterman10

I love it when little men puff out their chest, reminds me grade school.....

Godfather.

How on earth could this be interpreted as me "puffing out my chest?" You made an moronic comment on a message board, and I called it moronic. And I'm not even bothering to debate you over all the narrow-minded racist rhetoric you're spewing in this thread. I'm just like "Dude, how can you say Muhammad Ali wasn't a great boxer? Come on..."

Ledbetterman10

Godfather.

josevolution said:

Godfather. said:

josevolution said:

Hey that's why he's the GODFATHER it's only his kind that matters to him ga ha ha Ali was not only the greatest boxer he was a giant of a human being more class on his pinky than what the GF has in his whole body ..

good lord you are confused.....Rocky Marciano is the greatest fighter of all time, no loses and most fights ended in K.O, Mike Tyson was a better fighter than clay as well. and why don't you take a moment to tell me what or who is "my kind" I think you'd surprised to know whom I conceder a friend, my list is short but solid.

Godfather.

Yeah ok ..

yeah o.k ???? dude I just stated a solid fact about the greatest fighter of all time and all you can say "yeah o.k" ? HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA I'm just bustin your chops man.

Godfather.

Gern Blansten

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/283366-orlando-shooters-classmate-he-was-gay

Earlier Monday, it was revealed that Mateen was a frequent visitor to the establishment, according to one regular visitor.

“Sometimes he would go over in the corner and sit and drink by himself, and other times he would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent,” Ty Smith said of the gunman Omar Mateen, 29, according to The Orlando Sentinel.

Smith added he had seen Mateen at Pulse nightclub at least 12 times before the shooter opened fire on the venue early Sunday morning.

The Orlando Sentinel on Monday reported at least four regulars at Pulse, including Smith, recalled seeing Mateen at the nightclub before the attack.

I don't think he was casing the joint...

rgambs

As I said before, this guy was complicated. A very fucked up guy with several factors inciting him to violence, it isn't a simple case '"ISIS evil", there's more to it than that.

Ledbetterman10

rgambs said:

As I said before, this guy was complicated. A very fucked up guy with several factors inciting him to violence, it isn't a simple case '"ISIS evil", there's more to it than that.

I liken him more to the guy that shot up the Colorado theater than I do the people out in San Bernardino. Just a crazy violent fuck.

g under p

rgambs said:

As I said before, this guy was complicated. A very fucked up guy with several factors inciting him to violence, it isn't a simple case '"ISIS evil", there's more to it than that.

Yes this tragedy seems to be changing day by day. Could this have been a situation where this shooter Mateen was comflicted in his possible desires to be homosexual knowing how he would be condemn by his family or his faith being Muslim. Loss his temper from being turned by associates he liked then used Isis by calling authorities to claim affiliation to hide his hidden sexual orientation. There is certainly more to this story for sure.

Peace

mrussel1

Godfather. said:

josevolution said:

Hey that's why he's the GODFATHER it's only his kind that matters to him ga ha ha Ali was not only the greatest boxer he was a giant of a human being more class on his pinky than what the GF has in his whole body ..

good lord you are confused.....Rocky Marciano is the greatest fighter of all time, no loses and most fights ended in K.O, Mike Tyson was a better fighter than clay as well. and why don't you take a moment to tell me what or who is "my kind" I think you'd surprised to know whom I conceder a friend, my list is short but solid.

Godfather.

"Every time I talk about boxing, some white man gotta pull Rocky Marciano out of his ass."

pjhawks

Godfather. said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Godfather. said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

myoung321 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

josevolution said:

Godfather. said:

Degeneratefk said:

pjalive21 said:

im just astounded that when something like this happens we go after guns instead of treating the mentally ill or vetting people more properly, but since guns shoot themselves lets take those away from law abiding citizens. I just cant wrap my head around not making individuals responsible, but instead blaming the machine. We already have gun laws on the book adding more and more to clutter up what is already there makes no damn sense

my thoughts with those in Orlando

An assault weapons ban makes perfect sense. If you dont have an assault rifle, you can not kill large amounts of people in short periods of time. It's so simple, it's stupid.

.........no it's not simple, I enjoy owning a "assault rifle" it's a great tool for home defense and fun to take to a shooting range so who here has the right to take away my rights ? there is no gun problem there is only people problems and if you are worried about mass killings you better outlaw fertilizer or various types of gas as well or we can cut down on mass killings like Boston, NY, CA., etc. we can stop allowing muslim people into our country.

Godfather.

With everyone of these incidents you just keep sounding more & more crazy you make no sense , so now you want all Muslims banned ? Ok how about the ones that are living here deport them ?
So let's see you & Trump want ..
1- deport 11million illegal aliens
2- deport How many Muslims

Tell us how will this get done are you willing to pay more in taxes to offset the cost of such an undertaking what are you willing to give up to see this come true ? ...

it will take a while but it can be done....by the way, all of them.


Godfather.

all of them, or just the brown ones?

So you would have deported Muhammad Ali?

excellent question. assuming this was posed to GF.

I'm not of the opinion that clay was a great fighter or great anything expect for self promotion.
what is your point ?

Godfather.

I think Ali was a total douche. But to say you're "not of the opinion that clay was a great fighter" is first off, such a pretentious way to put it, and secondly, just moronic.

Ledbetterman10

I love it when little men puff out their chest, reminds me grade school.....

Godfather.

reminds me of people who need a gun to feel "tough"

HughFreakingDillon

Godfather. said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

josevolution said:

Godfather. said:

Degeneratefk said:

pjalive21 said:

im just astounded that when something like this happens we go after guns instead of treating the mentally ill or vetting people more properly, but since guns shoot themselves lets take those away from law abiding citizens. I just cant wrap my head around not making individuals responsible, but instead blaming the machine. We already have gun laws on the book adding more and more to clutter up what is already there makes no damn sense

my thoughts with those in Orlando

An assault weapons ban makes perfect sense. If you dont have an assault rifle, you can not kill large amounts of people in short periods of time. It's so simple, it's stupid.

.........no it's not simple, I enjoy owning a "assault rifle" it's a great tool for home defense and fun to take to a shooting range so who here has the right to take away my rights ? there is no gun problem there is only people problems and if you are worried about mass killings you better outlaw fertilizer or various types of gas as well or we can cut down on mass killings like Boston, NY, CA., etc. we can stop allowing muslim people into our country.

Godfather.

With everyone of these incidents you just keep sounding more & more crazy you make no sense , so now you want all Muslims banned ? Ok how about the ones that are living here deport them ?
So let's see you & Trump want ..
1- deport 11million illegal aliens
2- deport How many Muslims

Tell us how will this get done are you willing to pay more in taxes to offset the cost of such an undertaking what are you willing to give up to see this come true ? ...

it will take a while but it can be done....by the way, all of them.


Godfather.

all of them, or just the brown ones?

all of them, if they can't follow the legal process for citizenship then send them back.
do you believe anybody that can walk, swim or fly across a border should gain citizenship of that country ? I do not.

Godfather.

we aren't talking about illegals here. Trump wants to close your borders to all muslims. and he wants to nametag all the ones already here. do you not fucking get that is what hitler did to the jews? FFS, man.

actually, yes, I think borders are the stupidest thing man ever invented (besides guns). it is no longer a viable idea in today's time, but I think it's ludicrous that I have to get permission to go somewhere else on earth, because some government lays claim to that land. it's such nonsense.

OffSheGoes35

mrussel1 said:

Godfather. said:

josevolution said:

Hey that's why he's the GODFATHER it's only his kind that matters to him ga ha ha Ali was not only the greatest boxer he was a giant of a human being more class on his pinky than what the GF has in his whole body ..

good lord you are confused.....Rocky Marciano is the greatest fighter of all time, no loses and most fights ended in K.O, Mike Tyson was a better fighter than clay as well. and why don't you take a moment to tell me what or who is "my kind" I think you'd surprised to know whom I conceder a friend, my list is short but solid.

Godfather.

"Every time I talk about boxing, some white man gotta pull Rocky Marciano out of his ass."

HughFreakingDillon

Godfather. said:

josevolution said:

Hey that's why he's the GODFATHER it's only his kind that matters to him ga ha ha Ali was not only the greatest boxer he was a giant of a human being more class on his pinky than what the GF has in his whole body ..

good lord you are confused.....Rocky Marciano is the greatest fighter of all time, no loses and most fights ended in K.O, Mike Tyson was a better fighter than clay as well. and why don't you take a moment to tell me what or who is "my kind" I think you'd surprised to know whom I conceder a friend, my list is short but solid.

Godfather.

tyson was a better fighter than Ali? are you out of your mind? Tyson was a powerhouse who was lined up with tomato cans to crush on his way to biting the ear off an opponent and doing irreparable damage to the sport.

why won't you call him by his name, Muhammed Ali?