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josevolution · May 2016

Godfather. said:
he said Mexico sends us rapist and killers after that white gal was rapped and killed by an illegal Mexican in Frisco and the other stories of the same nature, like the illegal in Bakersfield who killed a young white gal and left her carved up body on a farm road, he never said all Mexicans are rapist and killers but these dumb-asses at these rally's just hear what they want.....and we continue to read about the same stuff about illegal's in our country or these so called refugees in other countries.
it's high time ALL American's woke the fuck up ! ......

Godfather.

Yes I forgot that only people who come here from Mexico rape & murder Americans !!

PJ_Soul · May 2016

Kat said:

Godfather. said:
I wonder if everybody is dumb enough to believe everything they hear about Trump ?.....man and the same people voted for Obama ? HAHHAHHAHHAH Lord, the world has gone crazy...
but guess what ? that's your right as an American, enjoy it without hurting someone else in the process like the pieces of shit at that rally.
Godfather.
There's plenty of video of him saying many things and those I do believe. He seems to believe what he reads in the National Enquirer and I don't but maybe I should? I'm wondering what you think? Should I believe any of this story? Is there some truth in this even if all of it isn't true?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/donald-trump-denies-rape-teenage-7857357

Now that's a good question!

Ledbetterman10 · May 2016

In your guys' opinion... is it racist to be indifferent to racism? Like Trump makes these outrageous statements...and yet...I don't really care because they're not about me or people like me. Is that bad? I feel like maybe it's bad. Shouldn't I, as an American of privilege (a middle-class white dude), stick up for the less-privileged (suppressed minorities)? Or is it good that I worry about myself and don't butt into the business of others?

josevolution · May 2016

Ledbetterman10 said:
In your guys' opinion... is it racist to be indifferent to racism? Like Trump makes these outrageous statements...and yet...I don't really care because they're not about me or people like me. Is that bad? I feel like maybe it's bad. Shouldn't I, as an American of privilege (a middle-class white dude), stick up for the less-privileged (suppressed minorities)? Or should I be commended for worrying about myself and not butting into the business of others?

If your asking I'd say you already know the answer !!

Gern Blansten · May 2016

Godfather. said:
I wonder if everybody is dumb enough to believe everything they hear about Trump ?.....man and the same people voted for Obama ? HAHHAHHAHHAH Lord, the world has gone crazy...
but guess what ? that's your right as an American, enjoy it without hurting someone else in the process like the pieces of shit at that rally.

Godfather.

Wait are you saying that the guy on TV that looks exactly like Donald Trump saying all that stupid shit isn't Donald Trump?

Or are you talking out of your ass again.

Reminder....GF is a union guy that votes republican

Ledbetterman10 · May 2016

josevolution said:

Ledbetterman10 said:
In your guys' opinion... is it racist to be indifferent to racism? Like Trump makes these outrageous statements...and yet...I don't really care because they're not about me or people like me. Is that bad? I feel like maybe it's bad. Shouldn't I, as an American of privilege (a middle-class white dude), stick up for the less-privileged (suppressed minorities)? Or should I be commended for worrying about myself and not butting into the business of others?
If your asking I'd say you already know the answer !!

But I don't know the answer. I'm not racist and have never discriminated against anyone based on race, creed, sexuality, etc. Yet...when someone like Trump does...I don't really care. But I'm not exactly aiding and abetting him cause it's not like I go around saying "Have you heard about Trump's awesome Muslim ban idea?!" When he suggests banning Muslims or calling Mexicans rapists, I shrug and say "whatever" despite knowing that if I were in their shoes, rhetoric like that could ruin my life. The whole thing is strange.

Degeneratefk · May 2016

Ledbetterman10 said:
In your guys' opinion... is it racist to be indifferent to racism? Like Trump makes these outrageous statements...and yet...I don't really care because they're not about me or people like me. Is that bad? I feel like maybe it's bad. Shouldn't I, as an American of privilege (a middle-class white dude), stick up for the less-privileged (suppressed minorities)? Or is it good that I worry about myself and don't butt into the business of others?

It isnt about you or people like you? Really? People are people. They're like all of us.

mace1229 · May 2016

Ledbetterman10 said:
In your guys' opinion... is it racist to be indifferent to racism? Like Trump makes these outrageous statements...and yet...I don't really care because they're not about me or people like me. Is that bad? I feel like maybe it's bad. Shouldn't I, as an American of privilege (a middle-class white dude), stick up for the less-privileged (suppressed minorities)? Or is it good that I worry about myself and don't butt into the business of others?

If you witness a racist act and do nothing then absolutely.
However, with relation to Trump, he has made his campaign by making outrageous statements that I'm not convinced even he believes should, or could happen. So I'm not sure what sticking up for something against Trump would even look like.

Ledbetterman10 · May 2016

mace1229 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:
In your guys' opinion... is it racist to be indifferent to racism? Like Trump makes these outrageous statements...and yet...I don't really care because they're not about me or people like me. Is that bad? I feel like maybe it's bad. Shouldn't I, as an American of privilege (a middle-class white dude), stick up for the less-privileged (suppressed minorities)? Or is it good that I worry about myself and don't butt into the business of others?
If you witness a racist act and do nothing then absolutely.
However, with relation to Trump, he has made his campaign by making outrageous statements that I'm not convinced even he believes should, or could happen. So I'm not sure what sticking up for something against Trump would even look like.

Well I guess voting against him and encouraging others to do the same is all you can do.

PJ_Soul · May 2016

I think it's socially irresponsible to be indifferent about racism, and pretty self-centered not to be at all concerned about it just because you're not a victim of it. You might be the supreme ostrich. But it's not racist.

Ledbetterman10 · May 2016

PJ_Soul said:
I think it's socially irresponsible to be indifferent about racism, and pretty self-centered not to be at all concerned about it just because you're not a victim of it. You might be the supreme ostrich. But it's not racist.

A self-centered, socially irresponsible ostrich. Well...at least I'm not a racist.

PJ_Soul · May 2016

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJ_Soul said:
I think it's socially irresponsible to be indifferent about racism, and pretty self-centered not to be at all concerned about it just because you're not a victim of it. You might be the supreme ostrich. But it's not racist.
A self-centered, socially irresponsible ostrich. Well...at least I'm not a racist.

inmyNC · May 2016

Ledbetterman10 said:

mace1229 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:
In your guys' opinion... is it racist to be indifferent to racism? Like Trump makes these outrageous statements...and yet...I don't really care because they're not about me or people like me. Is that bad? I feel like maybe it's bad. Shouldn't I, as an American of privilege (a middle-class white dude), stick up for the less-privileged (suppressed minorities)? Or is it good that I worry about myself and don't butt into the business of others?
If you witness a racist act and do nothing then absolutely.
However, with relation to Trump, he has made his campaign by making outrageous statements that I'm not convinced even he believes should, or could happen. So I'm not sure what sticking up for something against Trump would even look like.
Well I guess voting against him and encouraging others to do the same is all you can do.

Vote on the issues that affect you, your family and your future. Take a hard look at all the candidates and their agendas. Read their websites, research and make decision based upon that. Your vote should be selfish, that's how we as a nation strive to elect the best for the majority of our citizens. No president will have 100% approval..

PJ_Soul · May 2016

Your vote should be selfish? Yikes. I think that attitude is exactly what is wrong with the world today. Looking out for the common good is looking out for yourself too IMO, and especially for your kids' futures.

cincybearcat · May 2016

PJ_Soul said:
Your vote should be selfish? Yikes. I think that attitude is exactly what is wrong with the world today. Looking out for the common good is looking out for yourself too IMO, and especially for your kids' futures.

Actually the beauty is you can vote however you like based on any criteria you want.

The bad part is the same exact thing!!!

PJ_Soul · May 2016

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:
Your vote should be selfish? Yikes. I think that attitude is exactly what is wrong with the world today. Looking out for the common good is looking out for yourself too IMO, and especially for your kids' futures.
Actually the beauty is you can vote however you like based on any criteria you want.

The bad part is the same exact thing!!!

Sure, but my comment doesn't really have anything to do with the freedom to vote for whomever you want. I'm just talking about attitudes, and how a selfish attitude is bad for the world.

inmyNC · May 2016

PJ_Soul said:
Your vote should be selfish? Yikes. I think that attitude is exactly what is wrong with the world today. Looking out for the common good is looking out for yourself too IMO, and especially for your kids' futures.

As I stated before " vote for the issues that affect you, your family and your future.. The selfish part includes your family. One issue may be beneficial to you while the other issue is best for me.. So when the issue comes to a vote which vote do you cast.. Simple its called democracy!!

inmyNC · May 2016

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:
Your vote should be selfish? Yikes. I think that attitude is exactly what is wrong with the world today. Looking out for the common good is looking out for yourself too IMO, and especially for your kids' futures.
Actually the beauty is you can vote however you like based on any criteria you want.

The bad part is the same exact thing!!!
Sure, but my comment doesn't really have anything to do with the freedom to vote for whomever you want. I'm just talking about attitudes, and how a selfish attitude is bad for the world.

If 100 people vote on one issue.. 51 vote one way 49 the other.... The 51 get their way. The 49 don't. Unfortunatly and fortunately that's how it is.... Its selfish but its democracy...

PJ_Soul · May 2016

inmyNC said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:
Your vote should be selfish? Yikes. I think that attitude is exactly what is wrong with the world today. Looking out for the common good is looking out for yourself too IMO, and especially for your kids' futures.
Actually the beauty is you can vote however you like based on any criteria you want.

The bad part is the same exact thing!!!
Sure, but my comment doesn't really have anything to do with the freedom to vote for whomever you want. I'm just talking about attitudes, and how a selfish attitude is bad for the world.
If 100 people vote on one issue.. 51 vote one way 49 the other.... The 51 get their way. The 49 don't. Unfortunatly and fortunately that's how it is.... Its selfish but its democracy...

Sure, but that also has nothing to do with what I'm saying (btw, this democracy you're talking about isn't even happening in the USA anyhow).

inmyNC · May 2016

PJ_Soul said:

inmyNC said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:
Your vote should be selfish? Yikes. I think that attitude is exactly what is wrong with the world today. Looking out for the common good is looking out for yourself too IMO, and especially for your kids' futures.
Actually the beauty is you can vote however you like based on any criteria you want.

The bad part is the same exact thing!!!
Sure, but my comment doesn't really have anything to do with the freedom to vote for whomever you want. I'm just talking about attitudes, and how a selfish attitude is bad for the world.
If 100 people vote on one issue.. 51 vote one way 49 the other.... The 51 get their way. The 49 don't. Unfortunatly and fortunately that's how it is.... Its selfish but its democracy...
Sure, but that also has nothing to do with what I'm saying (btw, this democracy you're talking about isn't even happening in the USA anyhow).

Its not? How so?

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