after this election he will be considered the biggest loser in American political history and judged as an absolute fucking clown
I almost feel sorry for him
I'd have bought into this eight months ago. But he keeps getting over hurdles we never thought he'd get over. And now he's running against probably the most hated person to ever hold a major party nomination for president. We're going to remember just how much everyone hates Hillary Clinton. He may be a clown, but Trump is our next President.
So you're ok with him having access to the nuclear codes even though it's been proven that his a nut case !!
Hell no. My only objective since it was evident he was going to win the nomination has been "not Trump." With Clinton running, any pull to go 3rd is taken away. I am freaked out at the prospect of him being President. But it's getting pretty real and I think he's probably going to win.
But Hillary, while a weasel and liberal in reputation only, is capable of doing the job. It's not about issues; it's about whether or not these people are capable. And, frankly, whether they want to actually be President and would be dedicated.
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after this election he will be considered the biggest loser in American political history and judged as an absolute fucking clown
I almost feel sorry for him
I'd have bought into this eight months ago. But he keeps getting over hurdles we never thought he'd get over. And now he's running against probably the most hated person to ever hold a major party nomination for president. We're going to remember just how much everyone hates Hillary Clinton. He may be a clown, but Trump is our next President.
His negative ratings are higher than Clinton's...
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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Getting the mouth breather vote is easy. About to get difficult for Drumpf.
It is amazing that poor, under educated white people are so hated by liberals as evidenced by your comment. I guess it isn't considered racist or bigoted if it involves white people. Liberals say they want to help the poor but they would just as much love to see a Wal-Mart in Florida fall into a sink hole along with everyone in it.
I think this is a fair point that gets lost on a lot of people, myself included. That said, I also think that those poor, under educated white people completely vote against their best interests because of an underlying racism and perception of Democratic values.
no kidding...that's the overall point to be made. Why in the hell would those people vote republican? It's sheep voting for the wolf.
Getting the mouth breather vote is easy. About to get difficult for Drumpf.
It is amazing that poor, under educated white people are so hated by liberals as evidenced by your comment. I guess it isn't considered racist or bigoted if it involves white people. Liberals say they want to help the poor but they would just as much love to see a Wal-Mart in Florida fall into a sink hole along with everyone in it.
I think this is a fair point that gets lost on a lot of people, myself included. That said, I also think that those poor, under educated white people completely vote against their best interests because of an underlying racism and perception of Democratic values.
no kidding...that's the overall point to be made. Why in the hell would those people vote republican? It's sheep voting for the wolf.
Right - because people who vote Republican usually vote out of fear or because they're fucking greedy (EDIT: oh, and racism...usually the racism stems the fear, but mostly fucking greed). That about sums it up.
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Getting the mouth breather vote is easy. About to get difficult for Drumpf.
It is amazing that poor, under educated white people are so hated by liberals as evidenced by your comment. I guess it isn't considered racist or bigoted if it involves white people. Liberals say they want to help the poor but they would just as much love to see a Wal-Mart in Florida fall into a sink hole along with everyone in it.
I think this is a fair point that gets lost on a lot of people, myself included. That said, I also think that those poor, under educated white people completely vote against their best interests because of an underlying racism and perception of Democratic values.
no kidding...that's the overall point to be made. Why in the hell would those people vote republican? It's sheep voting for the wolf.
Right - because people who vote Republican usually vote out of fear or because they're fucking greedy (EDIT: oh, and racism...usually the racism stems the fear, but mostly fucking greed). That about sums it up.
Getting the mouth breather vote is easy. About to get difficult for Drumpf.
It is amazing that poor, under educated white people are so hated by liberals as evidenced by your comment. I guess it isn't considered racist or bigoted if it involves white people. Liberals say they want to help the poor but they would just as much love to see a Wal-Mart in Florida fall into a sink hole along with everyone in it.
I think this is a fair point that gets lost on a lot of people, myself included. That said, I also think that those poor, under educated white people completely vote against their best interests because of an underlying racism and perception of Democratic values.
no kidding...that's the overall point to be made. Why in the hell would those people vote republican? It's sheep voting for the wolf.
Right - because people who vote Republican usually vote out of fear or because they're fucking greedy (EDIT: oh, and racism...usually the racism stems the fear, but mostly fucking greed). That about sums it up.
You're catching on.
I think I detect a little sarcasm in all of these posts...
I don't want to debate racism because I think most Republican politicians are not actually racist. Trump clearly is, but I don't think John McCain is, or Arnold, or Rubio or lots of other ones. The answers aren't easy.
But greed is an interesting point so I'm going to get a touch provocative here. Is it greedy to vote in your own financial interest? If your marginal tax rate is 25% and one candidate vows to raise it and the other vows to lower it, is that greed? If the answer is yes, wouldn't it also be greedy if you are lower middle or lower class and you are voting for a candidate because he/she promises an earned income credit, or zero tax rate, or free insurance? Can you really call one greed and the other not?
Getting the mouth breather vote is easy. About to get difficult for Drumpf.
It is amazing that poor, under educated white people are so hated by liberals as evidenced by your comment. I guess it isn't considered racist or bigoted if it involves white people. Liberals say they want to help the poor but they would just as much love to see a Wal-Mart in Florida fall into a sink hole along with everyone in it.
I think this is a fair point that gets lost on a lot of people, myself included. That said, I also think that those poor, under educated white people completely vote against their best interests because of an underlying racism and perception of Democratic values.
no kidding...that's the overall point to be made. Why in the hell would those people vote republican? It's sheep voting for the wolf.
Right - because people who vote Republican usually vote out of fear or because they're fucking greedy (EDIT: oh, and racism...usually the racism stems the fear, but mostly fucking greed). That about sums it up.
You're catching on.
I think I detect a little sarcasm in all of these posts...
I don't want to debate racism because I think most Republican politicians are not actually racist. Trump clearly is, but I don't think John McCain is, or Arnold, or Rubio or lots of other ones. The answers aren't easy.
But greed is an interesting point so I'm going to get a touch provocative here. Is it greedy to vote in your own financial interest? If your marginal tax rate is 25% and one candidate vows to raise it and the other vows to lower it, is that greed? If the answer is yes, wouldn't it also be greedy if you are lower middle or lower class and you are voting for a candidate because he/she promises an earned income credit, or zero tax rate, or free insurance? Can you really call one greed and the other not?
It depends on the end result. If the end result of a tax cut will be higher deficits and the same candidate promising the tax cut also says he will lower the deficit that is just ignorant.
Democrats tend to realize that taxes need to increase and that directly effects their own pocket.
I tend to vote for those that promote legislation that is counter to their own pocketbook rather than those that promote legislation that benefits themselves.
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after this election he will be considered the biggest loser in American political history and judged as an absolute fucking clown
I almost feel sorry for him
I personally believe the whole judge thing and republicans backing away from him is what will and has officially killed his chance like what Hymietown did for Jessie Jackson in the 84 election.
Getting the mouth breather vote is easy. About to get difficult for Drumpf.
Thing is it's astonishing how many mouth breathers roam this country.
I'm not so sure that's the main reason why Trump won the primary. I imagine you think the "mouth-breathers" voted for Trump in the primary for the following reasons:
1) They're racists. 2) They're stupid. 3) They believe his business "success" can translate to the presidency. 4) "He tells it like it is!"
Now look, I'm not saying there aren't people that fall into those four categories because there definitely is. But I can't see how that could translate to Trump receiving the most votes in the history of the GOP primary against a crowded field of seasoned politicians who have been preparing their entire lives for this election.
Here's what I think happened: the majority of GOP voters got sick and tired of having their intelligence insulted. Take Marco Rubio for example. I thought he was so insulting to GOP voters (I'm a Democrat, by the way). It's like he went on google and typed in "Words Republican voters like to hear" and just kept saying them over and over and over. "Ronald Reagan, Constitution, Second-Amendment, Pro-Life, Rinse, Repeat" And I think there came a time where GOP voters said "You know what, Marco? I like those things you mention in your speeches. However, I'm not a stupid dog that you can dangle something I like in front of and think I'll do whatever you say. Fuck you, I'm voting for Trump."
So I think Smellyman is right when he says that the primary was easier for Trump than the general election will be. But it's not because Republicans are stupid mouth-breathers. It's because they're sick of their party leaders' attempts to brainwash them. And Democrats (both voters and party leaders) need to get off their high-horses because everything Trump has done to the GOP could be done by Kanye West (or whoever) to the Democratic Party in four or eight years.
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will myself to find a home, a home within myself we will find a way, we will find our place
Getting the mouth breather vote is easy. About to get difficult for Drumpf.
It is amazing that poor, under educated white people are so hated by liberals as evidenced by your comment. I guess it isn't considered racist or bigoted if it involves white people. Liberals say they want to help the poor but they would just as much love to see a Wal-Mart in Florida fall into a sink hole along with everyone in it.
Well you are either a supporter or not I believe your trying to find a reason to support him and just can't come up with a reason too !
I'm not for Trump because he is a crazy person, but I do want a candidate that is serious about securing our borders and spending money on the poor people that are in this country already versus bringing in more people solely to boost up the Democratic voter rolls.
No, my main point in my post is to point out the hate that comes from the left for people they don't agree with. I don't call people who support abortion murderers. I understand they have a reasonable argument just like pro-lifers have a reasonable position. When you call a group of people mouth breathers I don't see how that is any less hateful than calling black people or Hispanic people a racial slur. It comes from hate.
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Then they're SOME in this country who want to elect this man as President! I seriously think Drumpt is more interested in protecting his name than taking care of the everyday workers today.
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after this election he will be considered the biggest loser in American political history and judged as an absolute fucking clown
I almost feel sorry for him
I'd have bought into this eight months ago. But he keeps getting over hurdles we never thought he'd get over. And now he's running against probably the most hated person to ever hold a major party nomination for president. We're going to remember just how much everyone hates Hillary Clinton. He may be a clown, but Trump is our next President.
Getting the mouth breather vote is easy. About to get difficult for Drumpf.
It is amazing that poor, under educated white people are so hated by liberals as evidenced by your comment. I guess it isn't considered racist or bigoted if it involves white people. Liberals say they want to help the poor but they would just as much love to see a Wal-Mart in Florida fall into a sink hole along with everyone in it.
Well you are either a supporter or not I believe your trying to find a reason to support him and just can't come up with a reason too !
I'm not for Trump because he is a crazy person, but I do want a candidate that is serious about securing our borders and spending money on the poor people that are in this country already versus bringing in more people solely to boost up the Democratic voter rolls.
No, my main point in my post is to point out the hate that comes from the left for people they don't agree with. I don't call people who support abortion murderers. I understand they have a reasonable argument just like pro-lifers have a reasonable position. When you call a group of people mouth breathers I don't see how that is any less hateful than calling black people or Hispanic people a racial slur. It comes from hate.
Getting the mouth breather vote is easy. About to get difficult for Drumpf.
It is amazing that poor, under educated white people are so hated by liberals as evidenced by your comment. I guess it isn't considered racist or bigoted if it involves white people. Liberals say they want to help the poor but they would just as much love to see a Wal-Mart in Florida fall into a sink hole along with everyone in it.
Well you are either a supporter or not I believe your trying to find a reason to support him and just can't come up with a reason too !
I'm not for Trump because he is a crazy person, but I do want a candidate that is serious about securing our borders and spending money on the poor people that are in this country already versus bringing in more people solely to boost up the Democratic voter rolls.
No, my main point in my post is to point out the hate that comes from the left for people they don't agree with. I don't call people who support abortion murderers. I understand they have a reasonable argument just like pro-lifers have a reasonable position. When you call a group of people mouth breathers I don't see how that is any less hateful than calling black people or Hispanic people a racial slur. It comes from hate.
I hear you ..
You are wasting your mouth breath on the hateful liberals who despise any thought but their own. Especially on this train.
Getting the mouth breather vote is easy. About to get difficult for Drumpf.
It is amazing that poor, under educated white people are so hated by liberals as evidenced by your comment. I guess it isn't considered racist or bigoted if it involves white people. Liberals say they want to help the poor but they would just as much love to see a Wal-Mart in Florida fall into a sink hole along with everyone in it.
Well you are either a supporter or not I believe your trying to find a reason to support him and just can't come up with a reason too !
I'm not for Trump because he is a crazy person, but I do want a candidate that is serious about securing our borders and spending money on the poor people that are in this country already versus bringing in more people solely to boost up the Democratic voter rolls.
No, my main point in my post is to point out the hate that comes from the left for people they don't agree with. I don't call people who support abortion murderers. I understand they have a reasonable argument just like pro-lifers have a reasonable position. When you call a group of people mouth breathers I don't see how that is any less hateful than calling black people or Hispanic people a racial slur. It comes from hate.
I hear you ..
You are wasting your mouth breath on the hateful liberals who despise any thought but their own. Especially on this train.
C'mon dude. I'm a liberal. I've been very kind to you. Except when you tried to defend the indefensible, although admirably.
Getting the mouth breather vote is easy. About to get difficult for Drumpf.
It is amazing that poor, under educated white people are so hated by liberals as evidenced by your comment. I guess it isn't considered racist or bigoted if it involves white people. Liberals say they want to help the poor but they would just as much love to see a Wal-Mart in Florida fall into a sink hole along with everyone in it.
Well you are either a supporter or not I believe your trying to find a reason to support him and just can't come up with a reason too !
I'm not for Trump because he is a crazy person, but I do want a candidate that is serious about securing our borders and spending money on the poor people that are in this country already versus bringing in more people solely to boost up the Democratic voter rolls.
No, my main point in my post is to point out the hate that comes from the left for people they don't agree with. I don't call people who support abortion murderers. I understand they have a reasonable argument just like pro-lifers have a reasonable position. When you call a group of people mouth breathers I don't see how that is any less hateful than calling black people or Hispanic people a racial slur. It comes from hate.
I hear you ..
You are wasting your mouth breath on the hateful liberals who despise any thought but their own. Especially on this train.
Painting with a pretty broad brush there, aren't you? It's difficult to get ones point across when you are labeled a troll.
will myself to find a home, a home within myself we will find a way, we will find our place
Getting the mouth breather vote is easy. About to get difficult for Drumpf.
It is amazing that poor, under educated white people are so hated by liberals as evidenced by your comment. I guess it isn't considered racist or bigoted if it involves white people. Liberals say they want to help the poor but they would just as much love to see a Wal-Mart in Florida fall into a sink hole along with everyone in it.
Well you are either a supporter or not I believe your trying to find a reason to support him and just can't come up with a reason too !
I'm not for Trump because he is a crazy person, but I do want a candidate that is serious about securing our borders and spending money on the poor people that are in this country already versus bringing in more people solely to boost up the Democratic voter rolls.
No, my main point in my post is to point out the hate that comes from the left for people they don't agree with. I don't call people who support abortion murderers. I understand they have a reasonable argument just like pro-lifers have a reasonable position. When you call a group of people mouth breathers I don't see how that is any less hateful than calling black people or Hispanic people a racial slur. It comes from hate.
I hear you ..
You are wasting your mouth breath on the hateful liberals who despise any thought but their own. Especially on this train.
Painting with a pretty broad brush there, aren't you? It's difficult to get ones point across when you are labeled a troll.
Not really. Like Trump it's best to categorize certain people to really drive the message.
I haven't looked through this whole thread so maybe this has been posted, but someone mentioned this article to me this week. It was in the New Yorker in 1997. Scary scary stuff.
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But Hillary, while a weasel and liberal in reputation only, is capable of doing the job. It's not about issues; it's about whether or not these people are capable. And, frankly, whether they want to actually be President and would be dedicated.
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
I don't want to debate racism because I think most Republican politicians are not actually racist. Trump clearly is, but I don't think John McCain is, or Arnold, or Rubio or lots of other ones. The answers aren't easy.
But greed is an interesting point so I'm going to get a touch provocative here. Is it greedy to vote in your own financial interest? If your marginal tax rate is 25% and one candidate vows to raise it and the other vows to lower it, is that greed? If the answer is yes, wouldn't it also be greedy if you are lower middle or lower class and you are voting for a candidate because he/she promises an earned income credit, or zero tax rate, or free insurance? Can you really call one greed and the other not?
Democrats tend to realize that taxes need to increase and that directly effects their own pocket.
I tend to vote for those that promote legislation that is counter to their own pocketbook rather than those that promote legislation that benefits themselves.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
we will find a way, we will find our place
No, my main point in my post is to point out the hate that comes from the left for people they don't agree with. I don't call people who support abortion murderers. I understand they have a reasonable argument just like pro-lifers have a reasonable position. When you call a group of people mouth breathers I don't see how that is any less hateful than calling black people or Hispanic people a racial slur. It comes from hate.
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.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Especially on this train.
But the previous quotes did not include you in my rebute.
http://www.businessinsider.com/michael-moore-trump-can-win-president-2016-6
we will find a way, we will find our place
Like Trump it's best to categorize certain people to really drive the message.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1997/05/19/trump-solo