Trump

HughFreakingDillon

I will be giddy during Trump's concession tweet.

Bentleyspop

HughFreakingDillon said:

I will be giddy during Trump's concession tweet.

First he'll blame President Obama
Then he'll blame cruz, rubio, jeb, and Bernie
The he'll blame the Muslims and the hispanics
Then he'll blame everyone else

Cliffy6745

Enkidu said:

Cliffy6745 said:

"Belgium is a beautiful city"

Did he just say that? It's not The Onion? Really? And this man should be our president why exactly?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2iEes9bzbg

g under p

Bentleyspop said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I will be giddy during Trump's concession tweet.

First he'll blame President Obama
Then he'll blame cruz, rubio, jeb, and Bernie
The he'll blame the Muslims and the hispanics
Then he'll blame everyone else

........BUT himself.

Peace

MayDay10

What, nobody supports the "I know you are but what am I" doctrine?

Gern Blansten

I don't think he'll let himself get beat...I think he'll drop out and try to save face by blaming the press, talking about how corrupt the system is, etc.

Bentleyspop

MayDay10 said:

What, nobody supports the "I know you are but what am I" doctrine?

https://youtu.be/Cs4Gj7JsET4

InHiding80

Bentleyspop said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I will be giddy during Trump's concession tweet.

First he'll blame President Obama
Then he'll blame cruz, rubio, jeb, and Bernie
The he'll blame the Muslims and the hispanics
Then he'll blame everyone else

Who died and made him Gary Oldman in The Professional?

PJfanwillneverleave1

Enkidu said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

For the rest of the Trump haters from now on please kindly back up your hate with facts that dispute his positions on this page https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

Anything less would be uncivilized.

I clicked on the site. The first thing I saw is about Mexico paying for the wall. Which has always seemed like laughable bullshit. So I found this. http://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-crumbling-wall-plan-1460320010

And this. http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/videos/a43191/john-oliver-donald-trump-wall/

And this. http://www.businessinsider.com/can-donald-trumps-build-wall-mexico-2016-3

I could go on. Because if you Google "Does Trump's plan to build the wall make any sense," you get pages and pages of, "No, it doesn't."

Again right from the source, read https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall
For a moment read his plan and then come back and say why it won't work.
This is what I am debating not "it's laughable bullshit" but I won't say why.

PJfanwillneverleave1

deadendp said:

PJFan, I do not like Trump. I do not hate him. I don't hate anyone. I do very much hate actions of people. I seriously fear for our country if he is at the helm. You don't live here, right? If you do, vote as you want but know this loud and clear, my vote will not be for Trump-- even if a gun was placed to my head. I don't need to back up my claim of worry. It's how I feel and I don't need to defend it. I have a 12 1/2 year old who has decided through news and reading that he is not her candidate, either. I will take advantage of my right to vote and exercise it as my heart directs me to.

You don't need to back up your claim? Decided via news and reading that it is not your candidate?
What about his positions and how he will put them to action have you read any, at all?
Pick one and say why it will fail https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

No one ever talks about his plans or policies. They are clearly laid out on his site.
Tell me why his plans won't work.

Gern Blansten

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/283627-marylands-gop-gov-says-he-doesnt-plan-to-vote-for-trump

Maryland's GOP Governor won't vote for Trump

PJfanwillneverleave1

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

mrussel1 said:

Trump wants to start a trade war with China with tariffs. But paradoxically, also wants to kill the TPP which China doesn't want either. He talks out of both sides of his mouth which means he is lying or has no real knowledge of global economics. This is a primary reason I dislike him so much. He doesn't have a coherent strategy.

This only about the 4th time I've posted this. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/us-china-trade-reform
Read it and say why it is incoherent

Okay, to start, he says we have gained no access to Chinese market in the lead paragraph And then several paragraphs later, he decries that American companies are forced to release proprietary information when they enter the market. So which is it? And if the GE, Boeing and others felt that it was NPV negative to enter the Chinese market, then they would not enter. And incidentally, theses are the same conditions that are imposed on Intel and their tech releases to Advanced Micro Devices.

Second, of course they manipulate currency. Everyone knows. But the TPP will force China to revalue their currency if they want to join which they've hinted they want to do.

Third, how do you think Apple or Google or MS feels about losing access to China when Trump starts a trade war? And do you think those jobs would come back to the US? Negative. They would go to India, Malaysia, Ireland, Philippines.

Some American companies are forced.

TPP will force China just like Trump will if POTUS.

Losing access via trade war? Well of course they won't be happy but that is a theoretical situation. Not going to happen.

HughFreakingDillon

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJFan, I do not like Trump. I do not hate him. I don't hate anyone. I do very much hate actions of people. I seriously fear for our country if he is at the helm. You don't live here, right? If you do, vote as you want but know this loud and clear, my vote will not be for Trump-- even if a gun was placed to my head. I don't need to back up my claim of worry. It's how I feel and I don't need to defend it. I have a 12 1/2 year old who has decided through news and reading that he is not her candidate, either. I will take advantage of my right to vote and exercise it as my heart directs me to.

You don't need to back up your claim? Decided via news and reading that it is not your candidate?
What about his positions and how he will put them to action have you read any, at all?
Pick one and say why it will fail https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

No one ever talks about his plans or policies. They are clearly laid out on his site.
Tell me why his plans won't work.

no they aren't. while he has ideas regarding improvement he has zero saying HOW he will do these. Everything is "with me as president, this will change". Really? with money and infrastructure falling out of the sky?

PJfanwillneverleave1

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJFan, I do not like Trump. I do not hate him. I don't hate anyone. I do very much hate actions of people. I seriously fear for our country if he is at the helm. You don't live here, right? If you do, vote as you want but know this loud and clear, my vote will not be for Trump-- even if a gun was placed to my head. I don't need to back up my claim of worry. It's how I feel and I don't need to defend it. I have a 12 1/2 year old who has decided through news and reading that he is not her candidate, either. I will take advantage of my right to vote and exercise it as my heart directs me to.

You don't need to back up your claim? Decided via news and reading that it is not your candidate?
What about his positions and how he will put them to action have you read any, at all?
Pick one and say why it will fail https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

No one ever talks about his plans or policies. They are clearly laid out on his site.
Tell me why his plans won't work.

no they aren't. while he has ideas regarding improvement he has zero saying HOW he will do these. Everything is "with me as president, this will change". Really? with money and infrastructure falling out of the sky?

You are doing it too, you are not reading the details - read https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions on a position click Read More and it tells you how

Jason P

The DNC's anti-Trump handbook appears to have been released by the Russians ...



gawker.com/this-looks-like-the-dncs-hacked-trump-oppo-file-1782040426

Jason P

Trump now knows and can prepare for every single strategy the DNC was going to use ...

mrussel1

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

mrussel1 said:

Trump wants to start a trade war with China with tariffs. But paradoxically, also wants to kill the TPP which China doesn't want either. He talks out of both sides of his mouth which means he is lying or has no real knowledge of global economics. This is a primary reason I dislike him so much. He doesn't have a coherent strategy.

This only about the 4th time I've posted this. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/us-china-trade-reform
Read it and say why it is incoherent

Okay, to start, he says we have gained no access to Chinese market in the lead paragraph And then several paragraphs later, he decries that American companies are forced to release proprietary information when they enter the market. So which is it? And if the GE, Boeing and others felt that it was NPV negative to enter the Chinese market, then they would not enter. And incidentally, theses are the same conditions that are imposed on Intel and their tech releases to Advanced Micro Devices.

Second, of course they manipulate currency. Everyone knows. But the TPP will force China to revalue their currency if they want to join which they've hinted they want to do.

Third, how do you think Apple or Google or MS feels about losing access to China when Trump starts a trade war? And do you think those jobs would come back to the US? Negative. They would go to India, Malaysia, Ireland, Philippines.

Some American companies are forced.

TPP will force China just like Trump will if POTUS.

Losing access via trade war? Well of course they won't be happy but that is a theoretical situation. Not going to happen.

Comment 1: Can you tell me the name of the American company that is forced to do business in China?
Comment 2: TPP will force China just like Trump? I don't understand.
Comment 3: Well it depends on what the war is about and how long and deep it goes. But if China responds with a massive tariff, then yes... Apple could lose rational access. It's not a closed border, but the tariff is so high that you stop exporting. That's how trade wars work.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Jason P said:

Trump now knows and can prepare for every single strategy the DNC was going to use ...

Know your enemy.
Smart

Cliffy6745

Pretty sure Trump knows everything that is coming at him already...

Jason P

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Jason P said:

Trump now knows and can prepare for every single strategy the DNC was going to use ...

Know your enemy.
Smart

To be fair, all Trump had to do was Google "Trump Buffoon" and he could have compiled the same list himself.