Star Wars Episode 7 Discussion with SPOILERS

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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462

    JimmyV said:

    Compelling evidence that Plageuis is Snoke...

    https://youtu.be/vd_8-NCN5CU

    You beat me to it.
    I hope he is.
    Got to be.
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    JimmyV said:

    I don't buy the theory that Rey is a Skywalker or a Solo because I don't believe any of our original trilogy heroes would abandon a child on Jakku. I also don't buy the theory that she is a Kinobi because it would require a drastic departure in character from anything we have seen from Obi-Wan. A secret love? God I hope not.

    So who is Rey? Well, consider this. The first thing we see in the Force vision montage is Bespin. Why? She wasn't even alive then. But that was when Luke lost his light saber and also when he lost...his hand. Whoever found the light saber also likely found the hand.

    Why is that important? Because this is a galaxy in which cloning exists. There is even an old EU story where Luke's hand is recovered and he is cloned. I think they are riffing on that. Rey was created with Skywalker DNA.

    After that...who knows? Maybe she was planted at Luke's Jedi academy. Maybe she was stolen from whoever created her and abandoned on Jakku. Maybe...speculating like this is a lot of fun.

    Abrams said this new trilogy is the story of the Skywalker family. Wouldn't make any sense if Rey isn't a Skywalker.
    Yeah, don't overthink it.

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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    JimmyV said:

    I don't buy the theory that Rey is a Skywalker or a Solo because I don't believe any of our original trilogy heroes would abandon a child on Jakku. I also don't buy the theory that she is a Kinobi because it would require a drastic departure in character from anything we have seen from Obi-Wan. A secret love? God I hope not.

    So who is Rey? Well, consider this. The first thing we see in the Force vision montage is Bespin. Why? She wasn't even alive then. But that was when Luke lost his light saber and also when he lost...his hand. Whoever found the light saber also likely found the hand.

    Why is that important? Because this is a galaxy in which cloning exists. There is even an old EU story where Luke's hand is recovered and he is cloned. I think they are riffing on that. Rey was created with Skywalker DNA.

    After that...who knows? Maybe she was planted at Luke's Jedi academy. Maybe she was stolen from whoever created her and abandoned on Jakku. Maybe...speculating like this is a lot of fun.

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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    That scene at the start where Kylo uses the force to freeze the laser blast in mid air and when he walks away it continues, how cool would it have been if he could turn that blast around back at the shooter?
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    This is fan made. I think it's great image

    Give this fan a job!
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Awesome. He made me get emotional talking with emotion about Han Solo's death and Chewie going ape shit. If only JJ was doing the rest of the sequels like he mentioned in his video.
    I hope they can give these movies to JJ, why change a good formula?
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
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  • JWPearl
    JWPearl Posts: 19,893
    going to watch this today and i cant wait
    better than watching someone get stabbed
    or raped or etc
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,380

    JimmyV said:

    Compelling evidence that Plageuis is Snoke...

    https://youtu.be/vd_8-NCN5CU

    You beat me to it.
    I hope he is.
    i was hoping it was Jar Jar :disappointed:
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  • JWPearl
    JWPearl Posts: 19,893
    watch it
    loved it
    cant wait for the
    next one..
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I am watching it for the second time tomorrow!
    Now that I have read theories and things I missed the first time I will pay closer attention!
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  • eldarion75
    eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    Christmas morning in the skywalker household

    Vader says 'Luke. I know what Santa clause brought you'

    'How??'

    'I felt your presents'













    taxi....
  • JTH
    JTH Chicago Posts: 3,238
    Man, I haven't seen Kevin Smith in a long time. Dude has lost some weight. He can probably size down on the hockey jersey. Goalie cut isn't necessary anymore.
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I couldn't see any grave in that scene where Luke is standing looking out to the ocean.
    I have a theory on how his arm got cut off, I reckon he faced Snoke and came off second best. No way Kylo was strong enough to beat Luke.
    I reckon Rey's memory was erased (I've never known that to be possible as I've never seen it in previous episodes) as she closes her eyes in that dual with Kylo, you can see in her face memories are flooding back to her, then she goes on and kicks Kylo's ass.
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  • PRL1JAM
    PRL1JAM Posts: 787

    This is fan made. I think it's great image

    that is amazing
  • Attaway77
    Attaway77 Posts: 3,815
    Just watched it today.. I liked it. Reminded me of the original three the way it was done. Brought back good memories as a kid in aww like the first 3 did. I Absolutely fucking hated to see Han go, I had to set my popcorn down after that scene and re-group, but that's what he always wanted so he got it I guess, sucks. Happy to see Star Wars back. Chewy hasn't aged a bit, good for him….
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Does anyone think Han sacrificed himself so that Kylo can go to the dark side fully and then kill Snoke? The part how he says he will help Kylo and he even touches his face after being stabbed before falling off the bridge. When I first watched it I thought it was plain murder, but having seen it again I am thinking otherwise.
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    edited December 2015
    I was also wondering why Kylo has tears in his eyes when he is facing Rey when she is tied up after being taken captive. Is it because he knows her? His sister or cousin?

    My heart was thumping when Han confronted his son, even though I already knew the outcome it was hard to watch as Han is probably my favourite character. Even Chewie had a worried look on his face when he was watching the confrontation, I don't think I've ever seen Chewie look so concerned.

    I teared up when Chewie had his head hanged down on the falcon afterwards. I wish they had Leia hug him in the script.
    :(
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