Star Wars Episode 7 Discussion with SPOILERS

JK_Livin

eldarion75 said:

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/star-wars-george-lucas-disney-white-slavers-1201669959/

Variety: George Lucas Says He Sold ‘Star Wars’ to ‘White Slavers’

Disney is the worst. Way too much advertising for this film. Everything on the face of the earth wanted a piece of the Star Wars pie. How the hell is there a connection between Star Wars and automoblies or cell phone carriers plans? It's just plain stupid. Disney whored it out.

eldarion75

Merkin Baller said:

I'm a 38 year old man, and I'm very certain I would have started bawling like a child if they showed Leia hugging Chewie after Han got killed.

100% certain.

I did bawl like a baby a lot during my first time seeing this, but especially the scene where they do hug when she comes off the transport and sees Han and Chewie for the first time.

Floods of tears.

JTH

Thoughts_Arrive said:

JTH said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

I have a theory on how his arm got cut off, I reckon he faced Snoke and came off second best. No way Kylo was strong enough to beat Luke.

I think you might want to go back and watch the original trilogy, or at least the last 20 minutes or so of The Empire Strikes Back.

Yes, I know, Vader cut his hand off, not his entire arm though....

What makes you think he lost his entire arm at some point? To the best of my recollection, we only see his cybernetic hand, not his whole arm.

eldarion75

He cut off Lukes forearm. That's all.

Thoughts_Arrive

Merkin Baller said:

I'm a 38 year old man, and I'm very certain I would have started bawling like a child if they showed Leia hugging Chewie after Han got killed.

100% certain.

Same here.

Thoughts_Arrive

JTH said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

JTH said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

I have a theory on how his arm got cut off, I reckon he faced Snoke and came off second best. No way Kylo was strong enough to beat Luke.

I think you might want to go back and watch the original trilogy, or at least the last 20 minutes or so of The Empire Strikes Back.

Yes, I know, Vader cut his hand off, not his entire arm though....

What makes you think he lost his entire arm at some point? To the best of my recollection, we only see his cybernetic hand, not his whole arm.

I thought I saw more than just a hand being robotic.
After Vader severed his arm in Ep5 he gets it fixed and it looks like a normal hand, now it is skeletal?

Thoughts_Arrive

I can't get over how awesome Daisy Ridley is.
She's so beautiful, I have a massive crush on her. And she seems like a cool down to earth girl.
My dream woman.

Pearl34Jam

Thoughts_Arrive said:

I can't get over how awesome Daisy Ridley is.
She's so beautiful, I have a massive crush on her. And she seems like a cool down to earth girl.
My dream woman.

Agree.

Thoughts_Arrive

That final scene, in the feels, so beautiful, I can't forget it. Goosebumps.
Magical but sad at the same time. You can see the pain in Luke's face, in his eyes.
That Luke's theme music at the end is epic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUBUlKgsNK8

Thoughts_Arrive

Getting emotional listening to the soundtrack on YouTube, Rey's theme is so beautiful...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3YcCLaTnBE&list=PLWKXJQUwVcfexiFdxZDrFGCx7RGbsuQUV&index=2

Thoughts_Arrive

Pearl34Jam said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

I can't get over how awesome Daisy Ridley is.
She's so beautiful, I have a massive crush on her. And she seems like a cool down to earth girl.
My dream woman.

Agree.

And she can sing, OMG!

https://instagram.com/p/-5gkvBlE6r/embed/

EarlWelsh

eddiec said:

eldarion75 said:

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/star-wars-george-lucas-disney-white-slavers-1201669959/

Variety: George Lucas Says He Sold ‘Star Wars’ to ‘White Slavers’

They buy him out for 4 billion and the guy whines. Disney was right not to listen to him on the script because the guy can't make movies anymore. He had his creative peak a long time ago. The last movie he did that was decent was 1989's Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. He had 16 years to come up with something for Episode 1 and he gave us that? All credibility lost.

And he was only a producer/writer on that Indy, not the director. I think we can go back further to find something decent he did, haha.

Thoughts_Arrive

Someone has managed to obtain photos of Luke at the end...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfi0fhBD-9o

Thoughts_Arrive

Interesting theory....

"Luke is in exile and he is protecting the Sith tomb from the Knights of Ren (mostly Kylo Ren because he is half Skywalker, son of Han and Leia) who is being guided through the dark side of the force by Supreme Leader Snoke aka DARTH PLAGUEIS (most likely through a physical consciousness). Kylo Ren is obsessed with Vader's legacy and finding Luke and the tomb so that he can bring the Sith back to dominance and become Sith himself. However, Kylo was once a student of Luke's Jedi order. The weapon he is after is not Anakin/Luke's lightsaber, it's actually Rey's staff. The staff is the Sith artifact and weapon of Darth Plagueis, which is needed to gain access to the tomb so Plagueis can be resurrected in his own body (Palpatine kept his ashes in two big vases seen in Episode III) and finally rule after being betrayed and murdered by Palpatine. The staff was sent off with Rey after the Knights of Ren destroyed Luke's Jedi order. That's why she's on Jakku, a baron desert planet with little connection to anywhere else, he knew they'd be hard to locate there. She does not remember her past or her heritage until she connects with the force through a vision, Maz and Leia play a part in this. Luke lost everything and many padawans were killed in the raid and his guilt is immense. The only way he could keep the Sith from returning was sending the key to the tomb (the staff) to the opposite end of the galaxy with Rey (his daughter) while he lives in exile watching over the Sith tomb. Stay tuned."

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Why-Luke-Skywalker-Looks-Like-Bearded-Recluse-Star-Wars-7-69578.html

Thoughts_Arrive

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Star-Wars-7-How-We-Supposed-Feel-About-Luke-Skywalker-Now-101787.html

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Star-Wars-Force-Awakens-Mysterious-Map-What-It-Might-Really-Mean-101247.html

JWPearl

interesting reads but i dont think they would be predictable somehow but i look forward to 2017 for the next one and i hope its just as good if not better than the force awakens

Thoughts_Arrive

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Star-Wars-7-Who-Rey-Was-Left-Jakku-With-103397.html

This article, what if Rey was abandoned on Jakku in the arms of this mean Unkar Plutt character by Kylo Ren or one of the other First Order people and not by Luke as has been speculated.
What if she was dumped there as they saw her as a threat if she were to continue her training under Luke. Maybe she wasn't killed when that could have been an easier choice for Snoke and his followers, maybe Kylo didn't have the heart to kill his cousin if she is his cousin. Maybe he wasn't as evil then when he dropped her there so he didn't kill her like he did his father.

Comments:

Plut is this generations Obi Wan. Watching over Rey (Luke) to protect her from being found. He may not be particularly nice but he is fulfilling his part of a bargain. His plan to steal BB8 probably had more to do with protecting Rey from the First Order than anything nefarious. He didn't order Rey killed or harmed so that leads me to believe he is not as bad as he pretends to be.

Seems like she's definitely a Skywalker, whether from Luke or Leia, I don't know. Maybe she was at the Jedi Academy when Ben Solo was there and they had a connection (or he felt like killing children was just too evil at the time) so he spared her, wiped her memories, and dumped her on Jakku to keep her away from Snoke and Luke, so she could live without causing him trouble later.

Thoughts_Arrive

I can't wait for the blu ray release
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/movies-tv-shows/movies-tv-shows-on-sale/sci-fi/star-wars-the-force-awakens/889391/

JWPearl

my daughter has a collection of bb8 things already she absolutely loves it
and how bb8 shows the thumbs up to fin with a lighter she thought it was classic
i had to laugh as well....

Thoughts_Arrive

JWPearl said:

my daughter has a collection of bb8 things already she absolutely loves it
and how bb8 shows the thumbs up to fin with a lighter she thought it was classic
i had to laugh as well....

That was cool, everyone laughed in the cinema.

Here is an interesting theory from a fan as to what the awakening is....

My (totally baseless and ill informed) thought is that the "awakening" described by Supreme Leader Snoke, and uhhh the movie's title also, was perhaps caused by something Luke did or is doing at the temple. Why start fresh and train new padawans (who could also pull a Ben Solo-esque stunt) when you can do some stuff at the temple and make them awaken on their own? Keeping it out of the hands of the First Order is just a bonus.

http://moviepilot.com/posts/3703997

I reckon that is plausible, maybe the first jedi temple contains hidden information as to how to awaken force powers within force sensitive beings across the galaxy, which may explain why Rey all of a sudden gains these jedi powers.