Star Wars Episode 7 Discussion with SPOILERS

Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh
Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh Posts: 1,180
edited December 2015 in All Encompassing Trip
We definitely need a place to discuss this fantastic movie for those who have seen it.

They definitely found the same magic that the original 3 had. Only dissapointment? Probably Captain Phasma. She seemed to be built up as quite the badass but really had very little to do in the plot. Hopefully we will get more of her in the next one.
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  • jervin007
    jervin007 Posts: 3,182
    Saw it yesterday and loved it. The expectations were huge and JJ delivered. Probably my favorite Star Wars since Empire. Still riding the high today. What an emotional rollercoaster.
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  • Mignelli14
    Mignelli14 Posts: 626
    Anyone catch how that when Rey and Kylo fought with lightsabers they seemed kind of sloppy, like they were just swinging for the fences at each other? But as this trilogy progresses and they become stronger their fights will be way more kick-ass and edge-of your seat (not that that one wasn't but you know what I mean. More looking like the luke/vader fights). Something I noticed
  • jervin007
    jervin007 Posts: 3,182
    Mignelli14 said:

    Anyone catch how that when Rey and Kylo fought with lightsabers they seemed kind of sloppy, like they were just swinging for the fences at each other? But as this trilogy progresses and they become stronger their fights will be way more kick-ass and edge-of your seat (not that that one wasn't but you know what I mean. More looking like the luke/vader fights). Something I noticed

    Yeah, even Fin held his own for a bit against Kylo. He definitely isn't close to Sith lord status yet
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    I loved every second that Han Solo was onscreen. Felt it was a great swan song for the character. Had a feeling going in this was going to be it for Han, and as the film played out it becomes clear where they were going. He'll be missed going forward but I am so thankful we got what we did. The coolness, the swagger, the banter...easily one of my all-time favorite movie characters.
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  • Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh
    Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh Posts: 1,180
    I was pretty bummed when Han died. I understood why it had to happen for the story, but to me that was what the prequels lacked. The humor of Han and Chewy together as well as humor throughout. But they did a much better job with humor and character building in this one than any of the prequels, so I'm optimistic that the next two are gonna blow us away.

    Werent they planning Han Solo spin off movies? I thought this for sure would keep him alive. Perhaps I was wrong.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    I know from some interviews over the years that Ford wasn't super eager to play Han again. Killing him off may have been a condition of his agreeing to come back.

    There is a Han film in development but the role is being recast. I believe it will be a younger version of Solo, probably pre A New Hope. If they get the casting right that could be very cool. Would love to see how Han and Chewie first met.
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  • jervin007
    jervin007 Posts: 3,182
    JimmyV said:

    I know from some interviews over the years that Ford wasn't super eager to play Han again. Killing him off may have been a condition of his agreeing to come back.

    There is a Han film in development but the role is being recast. I believe it will be a younger version of Solo, probably pre A New Hope. If they get the casting right that could be very cool. Would love to see how Han and Chewie first met.

    Yeah, I had forgotten, but Ford was actually vocal about the character being killed off in Return of The Jedi.

    My question is who is Rey's father? They make you kind of think she could be Luke's daughter, but she did have a good bond with Han from the start and some of the books actually have Han/Leia having a son and a daughter.
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  • Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh
    Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh Posts: 1,180
    What are the best books to read for post return of the Jedi stuff?
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    jervin007 said:

    JimmyV said:

    I know from some interviews over the years that Ford wasn't super eager to play Han again. Killing him off may have been a condition of his agreeing to come back.

    There is a Han film in development but the role is being recast. I believe it will be a younger version of Solo, probably pre A New Hope. If they get the casting right that could be very cool. Would love to see how Han and Chewie first met.

    Yeah, I had forgotten, but Ford was actually vocal about the character being killed off in Return of The Jedi.

    My question is who is Rey's father? They make you kind of think she could be Luke's daughter, but she did have a good bond with Han from the start and some of the books actually have Han/Leia having a son and a daughter.
    I mean, I didn't have any doubt leaving the theater that Rey is Luke's daughter, no? The entire story about her family not coming back, being taken away...
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    Luke is the strongest candidate to be her father right now, but we don't know what other new characters are coming in future episodes. Nor do we know who/what Snoke is, either.
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  • jervin007
    jervin007 Posts: 3,182
    Cliffy6745 said:

    jervin007 said:

    JimmyV said:

    I know from some interviews over the years that Ford wasn't super eager to play Han again. Killing him off may have been a condition of his agreeing to come back.

    There is a Han film in development but the role is being recast. I believe it will be a younger version of Solo, probably pre A New Hope. If they get the casting right that could be very cool. Would love to see how Han and Chewie first met.

    Yeah, I had forgotten, but Ford was actually vocal about the character being killed off in Return of The Jedi.

    My question is who is Rey's father? They make you kind of think she could be Luke's daughter, but she did have a good bond with Han from the start and some of the books actually have Han/Leia having a son and a daughter.
    I mean, I didn't have any doubt leaving the theater that Rey is Luke's daughter, no? The entire story about her family not coming back, being taken away...
    Yeah, they definitely guide your thinking in that direction. Plus she is a natural pilot, like Luke and Anakin before her.

    Curious who the mother may be if thats the case
    Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh said:

    What are the best books to read for post return of the Jedi stuff?

    There are a ton of different stories. Timothy Zahn's Heir to The Empire series takes place after Return of the Jedi and is very good.
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  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,963
    I absolutely loved it but a few things I had problems with:

    -I thought they could have mourned Han a little more. A hug between Chewie and Leia would have been a lot more powerful than the hug between Rey and Leia.

    -I know Ren was hit with Chewie's bow but I wish they had injured him more. It seemed a tad far fetched that Rey was holding her own against him.

    Other than that I was thoroughly impressed. I'm assuming that the First Order is no longer able to clone and instead get their troopers by abducting children like Finn. Obviously it creates problems as the mental reconditioning seems to happen often as per the scene with Phasma.
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,016
    10/10 I couldn't ask for anything more
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  • Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh
    Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh Posts: 1,180
    The first order pulling the energy from the sun was really awesome. Whoever came up with that, kudos.
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  • jervin007
    jervin007 Posts: 3,182
    Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh said:

    The first order pulling the energy from the sun was really awesome. Whoever came up with that, kudos.

    Yeah, I thought the scene with Kylo and Han was very powerful. Kylo battling with the light and the dark just as the light from the sun was extinguished
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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    edited December 2015
    Didnt Han and Leia have twins? Rey and Han were finishing each others sentences, she was an excellent pilot and good with mechanics.
    I assumed she was Kylo's sister and Hans daughter.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    Dr. Delight said:

    Didnt Han and Leia have twins? Rey and Han were finishing each others sentences, she was an excellent pilot and good with mechanics.
    I assumed she was Kylo's sister and Hans daughter.

    In the books they had twins but none of those stories are canon anymore. The movies are free to tell their own story.

    We thought they might be brother and sister too, but if so why does Han not recognize or know her? And if she is Luke's daughter, would he really abandon her on a desert planet without a Kanobi like figure to watch over her?

    I feel like her origin is going to be more complicated.
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  • jervin007
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    Dr. Delight said:

    Didnt Han and Leia have twins? Rey and Han were finishing each others sentences, she was an excellent pilot and good with mechanics.
    I assumed she was Kylo's sister and Hans daughter.

    Thats definitely one of the theories. From the flashback scene she definitely had images of Kylo's betrayal, which makes me think she was there when he betrayed Luke. Han did seem to have a unique bond with her, and Leia also did at the end. But, her lightsaber was used by both Anakin and Luke before her, so the argument can definitely be made that she is Luke's daughter. I guess we will have to wait and see.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818

    Han's demise by his son's hand was spoiled for me online, so I rushed out & saw it today before anything else could be ruined.

    10/10, I can't wait to see it again...... Hopefully w/ my 8 year old nephew who also loves Star Wars.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    Merkin Baller said:


    Han's demise by his son's hand was spoiled for me online, so I rushed out & saw it today before anything else could be ruined.

    10/10, I can't wait to see it again...... Hopefully w/ my 8 year old nephew who also loves Star Wars.

    Yeah, some dickhead I follow on Twitter posted "Han solo dies" and that was it. I wasn't 100% sure if it was true or not so it wasn't completely spoiled

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